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Part Number (for journalArticle) #12

Open rmzelle opened 13 years ago

rmzelle commented 13 years ago

A new field, "Part Number"/partNumber, should be added to journalArticle, and mapped to number in CSL.

https://www.zotero.org/trac/ticket/1368

bdarcus commented 13 years ago

Wouldn't part number be more like a section (number)? The generic "number" is really intended as a document number.

rmzelle commented 13 years ago

I was indeed wondering if this could be merged with ajlyon/zotero-bits#5. The downside of using CSL's section variable for part numbers is that section isn't available through cs:number, so you couldn't do any number reformatting.

avram commented 13 years ago

The upside of treating it as section is that we could then support named sections; serialized monographs or essays appearing in older journals don't always provide a section number, but they do say "Continuation" or something of the sort. (As usual, I'm referring to Russian practice.) I'm not quite sure how the name of the section is supposed to be formatted in citations, since citations usually refer to the entire work, but this might be an argument for allowing non-numeric data in the field (and variable).

gracile-fr commented 13 years ago

As I was the one who requested a "section" field, I should add that I had in mind a non-numeric data.

(If non-numeric data is not an issue, then I think that partNumber is not necessary: "Section"/section can do the job.)

gracile-fr commented 13 years ago

Humm, sorry, I think that "Part Number" has to be distinguished from "Section". I can easily imagine a citation case where both section and part number are needed.

-Mustapha Mekki,« L‘influence normative des groupes d‘intérêt : force vive ou force subversive ? », 1re partie, JCP G, 2009, n°43, I, 370.

-Mustapha Mekki,« L‘influence normative des groupes d‘intérêt : force vive ou force subversive ? », 2nde partie, JCP G, 2009, n°44, I, 392.

"I, 370" and "I, 392" are sections. "1re partie" and "2nde partie" are parts numbers.

avram commented 13 years ago

In that case we'd need a different CSL mapping. Any suggestions?

rmzelle commented 13 years ago

I think a case can be made for introducing a dedicated CSL variable, e.g. part-number.

rmzelle commented 7 years ago

@adam3smith, do you know if CMoS says anything about articles published in parts?

(I encountered this in my own writing, but I was able to just add the part number and subtitle to the "title" field:

Malic acid accumulation by Aspergillus flavus. I. Biochemical aspects of acid biosynthesis (https://doi.org/10.1007/BF00250501) Malic acid accumulation by Aspergillus flavus. II. Crystals and hair-like processes formed by A. flavus in a l-malic acid production medium (https://doi.org/10.1007/BF00250502) Malic acid accumulation by Aspergillus flavus. III. 13C NMR and isoenzyme analyses (https://doi.org/10.1007/BF00264008) )

adam3smith commented 7 years ago

Yes. 14.189, here in its entirety (italics ommitted):

Articles published in parts over two or more issues may be listed separately or in the same entry, depending on whether the part or the whole is cited.

68. George C. Brown, ed., “A Swedish Traveler in Early Wisconsin: The Observations of Fredrika Bremer,” pt. 1, Wisconsin Magazine of History 61 (Summer 1978): 312.
69. Ibid., pt. 2, Wisconsin Magazine of History 62 (Autumn 1978): 50.

Brown, George C., ed. “A Swedish Traveler in Early Wisconsin: The Observations of Fredrika Bremer.” Pts. 1 and 2. Wisconsin Magazine of History 61 (Summer 1978): 300–318; 62 (Autumn 1978): 41–56.
rmzelle commented 7 years ago

Great, thanks. @adam3smith, do you also agree that we'll probably want to treat this information separately from "section", per above at https://github.com/citation-style-language/zotero-bits/issues/12#issuecomment-777628, and that we'll need a new CSL variable (e.g. "part-number" or just "part")?

adam3smith commented 7 years ago

I agree it needs to be separate from section, yes (section is information about the container, part refers to the article; also see Gracile's example above). I do think it's a bit unfortunate to include these two variables just for two relatively rare cases, though. Can we think of any way in which they can cover something broader?

fbennett commented 7 years ago

On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 3:04 AM, Sebastian Karcher <notifications@github.com

wrote:

I agree it needs to be separate from section, yes (section is information about the container, part refers to the article; also see Gracile's example above). I do think it's a bit unfortunate to include these two variables just for two relatively rare cases, though.

IIRC the Zotero variables "series" and "seriesTitle" are meant to have different meanings (I forget which is which - one is a series enclosing the container?, the other a series across container volumes?). It think they both map to collection-title at the moment. If a new part-number is cast, should a companion *-title also be cast, and associated with series (or seriesTitle)?

Can we think of any way in which they can cover something broader?

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gracile-fr commented 7 years ago

@fbennett : https://forums.zotero.org/discussion/comment/94959/#Comment_94959 (meaning of "series", "seriesTitle", "seriesText"). See also #21

bwiernik commented 6 years ago

Is the consensus that both part-number and part-title be created?

denismaier commented 4 years ago

That's accepted, right? Would be also nice to have this for encyclopedia articles.

bwiernik commented 4 years ago

Adding zotero tag because this will be covered by https://github.com/citation-style-language/schema/issues/179

dstillman commented 3 years ago

Sorry, where did we land with this? partNumber and partTitle for journalArticle, mapped to CSL part-number and part-title?

bwiernik commented 3 years ago

That's correct.

The CSL 1.0.2 variables are listed here if that is helpful https://github.com/citation-style-language/documentation/blob/master/specification.rst

I can also take a look at a changelist