Open rmzelle opened 13 years ago
Wouldn't part number be more like a section (number)? The generic "number" is really intended as a document number.
I was indeed wondering if this could be merged with ajlyon/zotero-bits#5. The downside of using CSL's section variable for part numbers is that section isn't available through cs:number, so you couldn't do any number reformatting.
The upside of treating it as section is that we could then support named sections; serialized monographs or essays appearing in older journals don't always provide a section number, but they do say "Continuation" or something of the sort. (As usual, I'm referring to Russian practice.) I'm not quite sure how the name of the section is supposed to be formatted in citations, since citations usually refer to the entire work, but this might be an argument for allowing non-numeric data in the field (and variable).
As I was the one who requested a "section" field, I should add that I had in mind a non-numeric data.
(If non-numeric data is not an issue, then I think that partNumber is not necessary: "Section"/section can do the job.)
Humm, sorry, I think that "Part Number" has to be distinguished from "Section". I can easily imagine a citation case where both section and part number are needed.
-Mustapha Mekki,« L‘influence normative des groupes d‘intérêt : force vive ou force subversive ? », 1re partie, JCP G, 2009, n°43, I, 370.
-Mustapha Mekki,« L‘influence normative des groupes d‘intérêt : force vive ou force subversive ? », 2nde partie, JCP G, 2009, n°44, I, 392.
"I, 370" and "I, 392" are sections. "1re partie" and "2nde partie" are parts numbers.
In that case we'd need a different CSL mapping. Any suggestions?
I think a case can be made for introducing a dedicated CSL variable, e.g. part-number.
@adam3smith, do you know if CMoS says anything about articles published in parts?
(I encountered this in my own writing, but I was able to just add the part number and subtitle to the "title" field:
Malic acid accumulation by Aspergillus flavus. I. Biochemical aspects of acid biosynthesis (https://doi.org/10.1007/BF00250501) Malic acid accumulation by Aspergillus flavus. II. Crystals and hair-like processes formed by A. flavus in a l-malic acid production medium (https://doi.org/10.1007/BF00250502) Malic acid accumulation by Aspergillus flavus. III. 13C NMR and isoenzyme analyses (https://doi.org/10.1007/BF00264008) )
Yes. 14.189, here in its entirety (italics ommitted):
Articles published in parts over two or more issues may be listed separately or in the same entry, depending on whether the part or the whole is cited.
68. George C. Brown, ed., “A Swedish Traveler in Early Wisconsin: The Observations of Fredrika Bremer,” pt. 1, Wisconsin Magazine of History 61 (Summer 1978): 312.
69. Ibid., pt. 2, Wisconsin Magazine of History 62 (Autumn 1978): 50.
Brown, George C., ed. “A Swedish Traveler in Early Wisconsin: The Observations of Fredrika Bremer.” Pts. 1 and 2. Wisconsin Magazine of History 61 (Summer 1978): 300–318; 62 (Autumn 1978): 41–56.
Great, thanks. @adam3smith, do you also agree that we'll probably want to treat this information separately from "section", per above at https://github.com/citation-style-language/zotero-bits/issues/12#issuecomment-777628, and that we'll need a new CSL variable (e.g. "part-number" or just "part")?
I agree it needs to be separate from section, yes (section is information about the container, part refers to the article; also see Gracile's example above). I do think it's a bit unfortunate to include these two variables just for two relatively rare cases, though. Can we think of any way in which they can cover something broader?
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I agree it needs to be separate from section, yes (section is information about the container, part refers to the article; also see Gracile's example above). I do think it's a bit unfortunate to include these two variables just for two relatively rare cases, though.
IIRC the Zotero variables "series" and "seriesTitle" are meant to have different meanings (I forget which is which - one is a series enclosing the container?, the other a series across container volumes?). It think they both map to collection-title at the moment. If a new part-number is cast, should a companion *-title also be cast, and associated with series (or seriesTitle)?
Can we think of any way in which they can cover something broader?
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Is the consensus that both part-number
and part-title
be created?
That's accepted, right? Would be also nice to have this for encyclopedia articles.
Adding zotero
tag because this will be covered by https://github.com/citation-style-language/schema/issues/179
Sorry, where did we land with this? partNumber
and partTitle
for journalArticle
, mapped to CSL part-number
and part-title
?
That's correct.
The CSL 1.0.2 variables are listed here if that is helpful https://github.com/citation-style-language/documentation/blob/master/specification.rst
I can also take a look at a changelist
A new field, "Part Number"/partNumber, should be added to journalArticle, and mapped to number in CSL.
https://www.zotero.org/trac/ticket/1368