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Number displays #11

Closed DeputyLOL closed 8 years ago

DeputyLOL commented 8 years ago

Now we have dials to select numbers. We need something nice to display them on! autopilot If possible, could they have the orange background and bright orange, digital style numbers? They would also go blank when a certain variable either met or not met.

Alexustas commented 8 years ago

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DeputyLOL commented 8 years ago

Looks good, I spent a lot of time making my own numbers but your look better! Can you have one more please. Glide slope angle. Goes from 1 to 25 please. Measured in degrees.

DeputyLOL commented 8 years ago

Some visual improvement: add a faint line where they are missing. Basically have a faint 8 behind every number. If you look at the heading display in the picture, you can see faint lines which would light up for other numbers.

Alexustas commented 8 years ago

i was thinking about that, andI will try to implement this effect. but if it involves serious complication of the model, I was not going to do it

Alexustas commented 8 years ago

and my skecth is not an actual representation of displays .this is done only to clarify the number of digits for each display

DeputyLOL commented 8 years ago

oh, we might have to change them to be more realistic in the KSP world. If possible, altitude has 5 digits instead of 6 (will the minimums and maximums be configurable?) Also, will colour and background colour be configurable? I want to stick to the orange, light orange style

Alexustas commented 8 years ago

in real life - yes 5 digits for altitude, but if someone build a kind of spaceplane ...

DeputyLOL commented 8 years ago

fair enough. could you make it configurable?

Alexustas commented 8 years ago

I will try to provide maximum flexibility to configure the display. background and characters will be a separate objects and you will be able customize colors of each object

DeputyLOL commented 8 years ago

cool!

DeputyLOL commented 8 years ago

will it be possible to toggle to different variables?

Alexustas commented 8 years ago

I think it would be better to make dedicated displays 'special for MCP', the most similar (authentic) to the original display. and then do a set of displays for 'common purposes'

DeputyLOL commented 8 years ago

yeah I agree

DeputyLOL commented 8 years ago

I think that once these are done, I can make a final version of my cockpit autopilot panel.

Alexustas commented 8 years ago

It will take some time. so while you can use the "DigitalIndicator" as displays

Alexustas commented 8 years ago

I plan to use the module "JSIOdometer" to the digital displays, but I have never worked with this module and I need time to figure out all over

DeputyLOL commented 8 years ago

yeah, good idea. I'm going to start getting the layout of it sorted.

Alexustas commented 8 years ago

"JSIOdometer" module displays one variable and can be switched to the 2nd (alternative) variable. but now is not a propblem becouse we have all the power of MATH and SELECT features

DeputyLOL commented 8 years ago

oh yeah...

Alexustas commented 8 years ago

haha, "JSIOdometer" was a bad idea (( https://youtu.be/FO1lAGfjimE

I can not remove the effect of rotation, so... plan "B"

Alexustas commented 8 years ago

Yes!

https://youtu.be/ZkC5ISWdtWU

Alexustas commented 8 years ago

Oh yeah! I'm really cool! :-)

https://youtu.be/UIBr0_iT2EM

Alexustas commented 8 years ago

and V/SPEED stuff:

https://youtu.be/cXnIW0Z0qq8

DeputyLOL commented 8 years ago

Wow, looks like you've been busy. Sorry for being quite for recently, there's been a lot going on. The display looks awesome, but I couldn't see the first video as you set it to private. :(

"Oh yeah! I'm really cool! :-)" image

DeputyLOL commented 8 years ago

didn't mean to close it...

Alexustas commented 8 years ago

a lot of work was maded I've make brand new RPM-monitor setup, new font and new font definition

DeputyLOL commented 8 years ago

is the display an rpm monitor?

Alexustas commented 8 years ago

yes, only two options here: RPM monitor or JSIVariableLabel

Alexustas commented 8 years ago

btw, do you know how to convert Airspeed to Mach number ?

Alexustas commented 8 years ago

screenshot323

DeputyLOL commented 8 years ago

no sorry. didn't you make a mach speed indicator as part of the avionics pack?

DeputyLOL commented 8 years ago

Also, if possible. Make the buttons and displays separate objects. Not all attached to the same panel please.

Alexustas commented 8 years ago

it's all are separated props, i just bild some kind of MCP assembly for convenience ))

Alexustas commented 8 years ago

do you need a dual-mode Speed display (EAS<--> Mach)? or only EAS?

DeputyLOL commented 8 years ago

no thanks. I do need a dual mode for the vertical speed and glide slope. If possible have them on the same display

Alexustas commented 8 years ago

"and glide slope" - how is it?

DeputyLOL commented 8 years ago

its kind of weird. In certain planes, the display can show both vertical speed and 'flight path angle' (vertical angle between prograde and ground). As KSP doesn't real have a use for FPA, I figured you could put something more useful there. Glide slope is angle that the plane comes into land at. image 2 mods already use this. NAV Utilities, which RPM is looking into and mechjeb space plane guidance autoland feature.

The type of plane you are modelling after doesn't have that..... I think. But I wanted to include the glide slope in a cockpit display somehow as it very useful to have

Alexustas commented 8 years ago

i.e. you need a dual-mode display and dual-mode dial for v/speed, and button for switching this modes?

Alexustas commented 8 years ago

G/S input format is "00.0" with step "0.1"?

Alexustas commented 8 years ago

So, that's what we have for now https://youtu.be/AECVEWLaimg

DeputyLOL commented 8 years ago

Basically, yes. A normal G/S is 3 degrees. The NavUtilities mod has 3, 5, 7.5, 10, 15, 20(?) and 25. I haven't had a chance to measure the max and mins of the mechjeb space plane guidance though.

Alexustas commented 8 years ago

so with no decimals?

Alexustas commented 8 years ago

oh, i've missed "7.5" ((

DeputyLOL commented 8 years ago

That's just the options for navutility. mechjeb can take any number.

Alexustas commented 8 years ago

what type of switches you want to use to switch between display modes (V/S <--> G/S)?

DeputyLOL commented 8 years ago

hmmm.... maybe the simple tumbler switch?

Alexustas commented 8 years ago

and this is the right choice! ))

Alexustas commented 8 years ago

Do you need "A" warning (overspeed) on the SPEED display?

DeputyLOL commented 8 years ago

no. planes have aural alarm for overspeed and a warning appears on the PFD. I already got that.

Alexustas commented 8 years ago

OK. In this case, I can do the degree symbol for additional indication what the "Glide slope" mode is selected. bandicam 2015-10-13 02-41-10-227