Liquid Neoplasm Tiles

[Novanox4]

Describe the content or mechanics you are proposing.

A tile that is liquid neoplasm

Describe how you think this content will improve the game. If you're proposing new content, mention how it may add more gameplay options or how it will fill a new niche.

Since V8 will be fleshing neoplasm out, liquid neoplasm could have some interesting mechanics related to that. Maybe neoplastic units could use bodies of neoplasm to heal quickly when they are low, nearby water pipes could get infested so players need to navigate waterworks around the pools, and it is flammable so it could catch on fire like a less explosive oil, but on Erekir. Pools could also act as a buff to neoplastic buildings, making them regenerate and extend faster, as well as other stat improvements.

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[jehosula]

neoplasm is not dormant tho and adding it as a pumpable liquid would make things weird

[Novanox4]

neoplasm is not dormant tho and adding it as a pumpable liquid would make things weird

Wouldn't be pumpable tho, I never said that. Also, neoplasm can already be put in pipes so I don't see the issue.

[jehosula]

Wouldn't be pumpable tho, I never said that. Also, neoplasm can already be put in ducts so I don't see the issue.

oh, still liquid on the ground is infinite so having infinite neoplasm would be very weird

[Novanox4]

Wouldn't be pumpable tho,

[jehosula]

Wouldn't be pumpable tho,

yeah?? did you not realize that liquid tiles are infinite so if there is a neoplasm tile it would be infinite and that's just too weird cause neoplasm isn't dormant

[Novanox4]

yeah?? did you not realize that liquid tiles are infinite so if there is a neoplasm tile it would be infinite and that's just too weird cause neoplasm isn't dormant

Infinite as in???

[jehosula]

Infinite as in???

there i infinite liquid there so it does not run out

[Novanox4]

there i infinite liquid there so it does not run out

And whay do you use to get that liquid into pipes, huh?

[jehosula]

And whay do you use to get that liquid into pipes, huh?

pumps, why is that even relevant

[Novanox4]

pumps, why is that even relevant

it would be **UN**PUMPABLE tho

[jehosula]

pumps, why is that even relevant

it would be UNPUMPABLE tho

yeah?!?! wouldn't the neoplasm just.. ya know crawl out?!?!

[jehosula]

yeah?!?! wouldn't the neoplasm just.. ya know crawl out?!?!

that's the biggest weird part about this idea

[Novanox4]

yeah?!?! wouldn't the neoplasm just.. ya know crawl out?!?!

How?

[jehosula]

How?

idk just neoplasm doing neoplasm things it's gonna be in V8 my guy neoplasm would figure this out

[Novanox4]

idk just neoplasm doing neoplasm things it's gonna be in V8 my guy neoplasm would figure this out

How do you know?

[jehosula]

How do you know?

v8 teasers show what the neoplasm can do, it would be a no brainer to assume it can also just crawl out of this

[Novanox4]

v8 teasers show what the neoplasm can do, it would be a no brainer to assume it can also just crawl out of this

Neoplasm itself can only multiply it when near water, wich can be only found as a liquid inside pipes on Erekir. You are confusing neoplasm with neoplastic units. Neoplasm is the blood, the units do the crawling.

[jehosula]

Neoplasm itself can only multiply it when near water, wich can be only found as a liquid inside pipes on Erekir. You are confusing neoplasm with neoplastic units. Neoplasm is the blood, the units do the crawling.

the neoplasm liquid can spawn units and well there is infinite neoplasm in a neoplasm tile so the neoplasm there can just turn into units and crawl out also neoplasm mainly multiplies with vents in v8 too did you not see the "leaks"

[Novanox4]

the neoplasm liquid can spawn units and well there is infinite neoplasm in a neoplasm tile so the neoplasm there can just turn into units and crawl out also neoplasm mainly multiplies with vents in v8 too did you not see the "leaks"

The neoplasm actually needs resources such as berryilium, tungsten or thorium fed into a special neoplastic building to make units. The veins also need to have a neoplastic heart, wich can only spawn on top of vents. Did YOU see the sneak peeks?

[jehosula]

The neoplasm actually needs resources such as berryilium, tungsten or thorium fed into a special neoplastic building to make units. The veins also need to have a neoplastic heart, wich can only spawn on top of vents.

yeah i did see the "leaks" and well i am sure some smaller units can be made without Resorces like idk blobs that can start the outbreak and the neoplastic heart is kind of the part i left out still needs vents

[Novanox4]

yeah i did see the "leaks" and well i am sure some smaller units can be made without Resorces like idk blobs that can start the outbreak and the neoplastic heart is kind of the part i left out still needs vents

To create a unit it needs a building to make it or a drop zone. To create a building it would need veins. To create veins it would need a heart. To create a heart it would need a vent. The pools of neoplasm would most likely not infect a vent unless adjacent to one or maybe not infect them at all.

[jehosula]

To create a unit it needs a building to make it or a drop zone. To create a building it would need veins. To create veins it would need a heart. To create a heart it would need a vent. The pools of neoplasm would most likely not infect a vent unless adjacent to one or maybe not infect them at all.

where will it start then and also it will just continuously pump out units with infinite neoplasm

[Novanox4]

where will it start then

and also it will just continuously pump out units with infinite neoplasm

1: It may start with a neoplasm heart being directly placed upon a vent in the editor or through a unit spawned by natural waves or other units burrowing inside, just like in the sneak peeks.

2: It already pumps out a ton of units indefinitely.

[jehosula]

1: It may start with a neoplasm heart being directly placed upon a vent in the editor or through a unit spawned by natural waves burrowing inside

2: It already pumps out a ton of units indefinitely.

IT CAN ALSO BE A NEOPLASIA REACTOR EXPLODING THEN THE SPILLED NEOPLASM MAKING A UNIT THAT GOES TO A VENT, HOW DID YOU NOT KNOW THAT Bruh also i mean like one or 2 units/s for a single tile

[Novanox4]

IT CAN ALSO BE A NEOPLASIA REACTOR EXPLODING THEN THE SPILLED NEOPLASM MAKING A UNIT THAT GOES TO A VENT, HOW DID YOU NOT KNOW THAT Bruh also i mean like one or 2 units/s for a single tile

Spilled neoplasm cannot make a unit. Neoplasm is like blood. A mouse won't emerge from a pile of blood. It needs a special neoplastic building to produce it.

[jehosula]

Spilled neoplasm cannot make a unit. Neoplasm is like blood. A mouse won't emerge from a pile of blood. It needs a special neoplastic building to produce it.

then how would you start a neoplasm outbreak yourself?

[Novanox4]

then how would you start a neoplasm outbreak yourself?

You wouldn't need to. If you want to see and test how it works, then maybe use a mod to spawn a neoplastic unit and infest a vent, but I doubt Anuke would make it possible to start an outbreak in campaign, especially after capturing a sector

[jehosula]

You wouldn't need to. If you want to see and test how it works, then maybe use a mod to spawn a neoplastic unit and infest a vent, but I doubt Anuke would make it possible to start an outbreak in campaign, especially after capturing a sector

it's basically confirmed that you can start a neoplasm outbreak by exploding a neoplasia reactor or mismanaging the spill

[Novanox4]

it's basically confirmed that you can start a neoplasm outbreak by exploding a neoplasia reactor or mismanaging the spill

Still, this will only make a heart, wich will in turn create unit factories. A puddle of neoplasm cannot move, only multiply via water, so a neoplasm terrain block won't start making units unless right next to a vent, wich is a thing I doubt Anuke would turn into a sector, as it would make it uncapturable.

[jehosula]

Still, this will only make a heart, wich will in turn create unit factories. A puddle of neoplasm cannot move, only multiply via water, so a neoplasm terrain block won't start making units unless right next to a vent.

"Still, this will only make a heart, wich will in turn create unit factories" yes "A puddle of neoplasm cannot move, only multiply via water, so a neoplasm terrain block won't start making units unless right next to a vent" well it can make blobs and i am pretty sure neoplasm will seek out vents instead of just being hopeless because the vent is too far "wich is a thing I doubt Anuke would turn into a sector, as it would make it uncapturable." it would also make maps unwinnable so it shouldn't be added unless it's just like 1k neoplasm stored like it's a block then no this suggestion is trash

[jehosula]

then it should just be a block for mappers to add instead of something like this and unnecicarily breaking concictency

[Novanox4]

"A puddle of neoplasm cannot move, only multiply via water, so a neoplasm terrain block won't start making units unless right next to a vent" well it can make blobs and i am pretty sure neoplasm will seek out vents instead of just being hopeless because the vent is too far

Your source? Was it revealed to you in a dream?

"wich is a thing I doubt Anuke would turn into a sector, as it would make it uncapturable." it would also make maps unwinnable so it shouldn't be added

Custom maps are already unwinnable unless it is an attack/pvp map, wich ends when destroying the enemy team, or if mods are used to put an end wave, which would end the map after the wave is cleared, and neoplasm hearts don't count towards waves

unless it's just like 1k neoplasm stored like it's a block then no this suggestion is trash

Please elaborate.

[jehosula]

Your source? Was it revealed to you in a dream?

no it was those exact leaks you must have saw

Custom maps are already unwinnable unless it is an attack/pvp map, wich ends when destroying the enemy team, or if mods are used to put an end wave, which would end the map after the wave is cleared, and neoplasm hearts don't count towards waves

well wave limits are already in the campaign and are used pretty often when making maps via mods so they should be accounted for

Please elaborate.

i mean something that stores neoplasm to spill at any time to start a neoplasm outbread

[jehosula]

also about the second one for pvp it would turn into last man standing and for attack it would make it unwinnable there stop arguing for a crappy feature that wouldn't even be very useful regardless

[Novanox4]

no it was those exact leaks you must have saw

Show me.

well wave limits are already in the campaign and are used pretty often when making maps via mods so they should be accounted for

The difference between campaign and custom maps are that while in custom maps, when you reach the end wave the game simply ends, in campaign you are - still playing on the map.

i mean something that stores neoplasm to spill at any time to start a neoplasm outbreak

Still, it does not have anything to do with the liquid neoplasm terrain.

[jehosula]

Show me.

search it up on youtube, before acting like you know all of v8

The difference between campaign and custom maps are that while in custom maps, when you reach the end wave the game simply ends, in campaign you are - still playing on the map.

that's because you already captured the sector and also the wave after the last never shows up with enemies still in the map

Still, it does not have anything to do with the liquid neoplasm terrain.

it would be a proper starter for neoplasm outbreaks and it's not supposed to be similar or maybe just a neoplasm INFESTED tile for what you want, a pool of neoplasm would just be silly

[Novanox4]

search it up on youtube, before acting like you know all of v8

Stop acting like YOU know all of V8

[jehosula]

Stop acting like YOU know all of V8

YEAH?!?!?! I SAID THE UNITS THAT SPAWN FROM THE LEAKS

[Novanox4]

YEAH?!?!?! I SAID THE UNITS THAT SPAWN FROM THE LEAKS

How do you know units spawn from leaks lol

[jehosula]

How do you know units spawn from leaks lol

re read the message you refrenced

[Novanox4]

re read the message you refrenced

If you are talking about that "they" Anuke used, it most likely referenced another unit that creates units or a unit factory.

[Novanox4]

Also, this does not prove that liquid neoplasm terrain is stupid.

[jehosula]

If you are talking about that "they" Anuke used, it most likely referenced another unit that creates units or a unit factory.

there is no context indicating that and simple grammar would indicate that he meant the liquid spill the message is even edited indicating anuke looked at it again and decided it's good wording

[jehosula]

Also, this does not prove that liquid neoplasm terrain is stupid.

in the way you suggested then it does because it would make no sense for it to not just crawl out and start an invasion

[jehosula]

even the context indicates that the spill does spawn units

[Novanox4]

in the way you suggested then it does because it would make no sense for it to not just crawl out and start an invasion

Wouldn't they just drown?

[jehosula]

Wouldn't they just drown?

umm are you saying the neoplasm will drown in itself?!? what does it even breathe?

[Novanox4]

Whatever. Let's just agree to disagree and end this argument. This feature will prolly not even get added so we should just stop fighting over such a stupid reason.

[jehosula]

Whatever. Let's just agree to disagree and end this argument. This feature will prolly not even get added so we should just stop fighting over such a stupid reason.

yeah i was waiting for you to stop for such a bad feature so no more comments, close this and we both move on