Logic serious renovation needed!

Sam11870 commented 1 month ago

Describe the content or mechanics you are proposing.

This is not a suggestion, I am begging you please please please completely remake logic. I love mindustry, and I love the idea of logic and programming, but the execution is awful. It's so hard to program it putts me of the game. I understand programing on a phone is going to be difficult but because the screen is small and everything but you can do so much better, and the if lines are so horrid it's horrible. A few things I, suggest, are insstead of a interface you scroll through make a map, on the right side there can be a panel with sections where you can get the blocks out of, and you can put them together, like in scratch. This way functions can also be added. And it would fix the problem of them horrid lines and make logic so much easier. I've been told I'm quite creative so I'd be happy to help creating this new approach to logic. Please 🙏.

Describe how you think this content will improve the game. If you're proposing new content, mention how it may add more gameplay options or how it will fill a new niche.

It will seriously make logic seriously easier which will bring much more audience to the game. When logic is improved it will create more potential, more will be possible, with more people engaging in logic it will get more advanced, and interesting, the online servers will be so much more fun. Etc.

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SomeonesShade commented 1 month ago

An alternative is just making the code in a text editor, then import it in... You can do functions with @counter shenanigans as current logic is assembly-like. And remaking logic might not be worth it for minimal gain for a lot of backend/bug fixing

I'm not saying logic is flawless (it has a lot of difficulty and strife), but for what it is as of now, I think it's good enough taking everything into account.

camelStyleUser commented 1 month ago

want scratch? https://discord.com/channels/859455834245431296/859470553227329546 (mindustry logic server) the invite to mindustry logic is in pins of the logic channel on the official main discord

Sam11870 commented 1 month ago

An alternative is just making the code in a text editor, then import it in... You can do functions with @counter shenanigans as current logic is assembly-like. And remaking logic might not be worth it for minimal gain for a lot of backend/bug fixing

I'm not saying logic is flawless (it has a lot of difficulty and strife), but for what it is as of now, I think it's good enough taking everything into account.

Where can I learn how to use a text editor to make logic?

SomeonesShade commented 1 month ago

probably in the discord server? or on your own most likely by copying the logic code and pasting into any text editor and see how the code lines turn into text

also jump labels/comments exist

set x 1
jump label always
set x 2
label:
set x 0

Sam11870 commented 1 month ago

probably in the discord server? or on your own most likely by copying the logic code and pasting into any text editor and see how the code lines turn into text

also jump labels/comments exist
set x 1
jump label always
set x 2
label:
set x 0

Ty i never knew you could do logic like this is so much easier

cardillan commented 1 month ago

There are also compilers that can translate from a high-level language into mlog. A few of these are actively developed and some produce good enough code:

mlogjs: online editor, user's guide Mindcode: online editor, documentation Pyndustric: this one doesn't have an online editor

Since these are high level languages, you can very easily write complicated expressions, loops or reusable functions in them.

(Disclaimer: I'm maintaining Mindcode. If you want to try it and need help, don't hesitate to ask.)

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