Entity ingredient tiers

[KiwiHawk]

The partial implementation of this issue has made some buildings more expensive than they probably should be. Mostly due to T1 now requiring steel. I've reviewed all buildings from Refining, Smelting, Petrochem and Bioprocessing; reviewing which tier of materials they take. Note: testing has been in a BA game.

Ingredient Tiers

This is my understanding of the tiers. Some of these have been inconsistent so I'm aiming to tidy this up. Buildings with either T1 ore T2 ingredients are all shown as T2 by Artisanal Reskins.

Ingredient Tier	Science Tier	Artisanal Reskins Tier
T0	Red	T0 / T1
T1	Red / Green	T2
T2	Green	T2
T3	Blue	T3
T4	Blue / Purple	T4
T5	Purple / Yellow	T5
T6	Yellow	T6

Self Imposed Guidelines

• Buildings unlocked by the same technology should be at the same tier
• All ingredients for a building should be from the same tier
• Higher tier buildings should be unlocked after lower tier buildings
• Roughly even number of buildings at T1 and T2

Buildings using T1 and T2

• Algae farm
• Blast furnace
• Induction furnace
• Casting machine
• Washing plant

Algae recipes

• [x] Make Algae Farm 1 and Algae Farm 2 use T0 materials
  • These will be AR tiers T0 and T1 respectively
  • Else Algae farm 2 felt very expensive
  • This is how it is in Sea Block
• [x] Reduce tier of Algae farm 4
  • Ammonia from sulfuric waste water isn't a great recipe
  • Should be available sooner than late blue science (needed Processing unit).

Metallurgy recipes

• [x] Make Blast furnace, Induction furnace, and Casting machine use T0 materials rather than T1
  • This solves the strangeness in prerequisites currently with Steel processing
  • Currently Metallurgy buildings use Steel as an an ingredient
  • Steel processing depends on Metallurgy 1
• [x] Remove Glowing hot iron plates
  • Because Metallurgy is available sooner, no real reason to keep Glowing hot iron plates
  • Didn't really feel like it fitted with Angel's smelting
• [x] Add trigger for Solder mixture
  • Will still be required for components mode
  • Otherwise, no real reason to keep it
• [x] Make oxygen available for steel processing (and lead processing)
  • Moved Chemical plant 1 to Basic chemistry
  • Remove Steel from Chemical plant 1
  • Reduce tier of Chemical plants 2 - 4
  • Move Flare stack to red science
  • Remove Steel from Flare stack
  • Change Nitrogen processing 1 prerequisite from Basic chemistry 2 to Basic chemistry
  • Move Ammonia synthesis to Nitrogen processing 2 (Green science)
  • Move Red metal catalyst to Basic chemistry 3 (Green science)
• [x] Add ore crushing as a prerequisite for Metallurgy 1
  • All of the advanced smelting techs depend on Ore Crushing as well as Metallurgy 1
  • There was no point in being able to research Metallurgy 1 before Ore Crushing

Material Tier changes

• [x] Change buildings to use T0 materials rather than T1

  • Flare stack
  • Petrochem small inline tank
  • Chemical plant
  • Washing plant 1
  • Seafloor pump
  • Blast furnace 1
  • Induction furnace 1
  • Casting machine 1

• [x] Change buildings to use T1 materials rather than T2

  • Filtration unit 1
  • Crystallizer 1
  • Ore crusher 2
  • Ore sorting facility 2
  • Blast furnace 2
  • Induction furnace 2
  • Casting machine 2
  • Chemical furnace 1

• [x] Change buildings to use T2 materials rather than T1

  • Steam cracker
  • Advanced chemical plant

• [x] Change buildings to use T3 materials rather than T4

  • Thermal water extractor

Tech tier changes

• [x] Tech unlocks T3 buildings so move to blue science

  • Hatchery
  • Puffer refugium 1
  • Temperate farming environment
  • Temperate farming 2
  • Desert farming environment
  • Desert farming 2
  • Swamp farming environment
  • Swamp farming 2
  • Advanced chemistry 2
  • Rubber
  • Advanced ore refining 2
  • Water treatment 3

• [x] Tech unlocks T5 buildings so move to purple science

  • Advanced ore refining 4

Artisanal Reskins T0

I've tried to keep the number of buildings in AR T0 to a minimum. These will be the only ones:

• Burner Ore Crusher
• Algae Farm 1

Other

• [x] Add override of Oil Refinery recipe
  • Vanilla Oil Refinery recipe isn't being overridden (that I could see)
  • Make it match other Oil Refinery tiers

General tech tidy:

• [x] Remove Gardens as a prerequisite for Puffers

Completed

T1 & T2

• [x] T1 and T2 have a lot of overlap. It would be nice if these could be differentiated. Easiest way, gameplay wise would be to use Bronze for T2 instead of Steel. I know that this may not make the most sense IRL but it's a game and there are many things that don't make sense.
  • T2 plate: Bronze plate
  • T1 pipe: Steel pipe
  • T2 pipe: Bronze pipe
  • T2 gears: ??

T6

• [x] Maybe add placeholders for T6 ingredients? These can resolve to the same materials as T5 currently. Would make it easy for other mods to supply the higher tier materials. Pellet press 4 and Advanced gas refinery 4 should be using T6 ingredients.

• [x] If Bob's mods are enabled, for T6 use:

  • Tungsten carbide plate (or Nitinol plate, Copper tungsten plate)
  • Copper tungsten pipe (or Nitinol pipe)
  • Nitinol gear wheel

[LovelySanta]

I'm still unsure if we want to solve this at this point... 1 + 3 need to go together, there is no point in increasing the tiers if it doesn't give additional items, I am of the opinion it is fine as is for now 2 I'm still unsure if we want to remove bobs alloys completely... I'm still opting to remove it, and use alien materials (artifact based) fore late game instead

[LovelySanta]

Partially implemented in https://github.com/Arch666Angel/mods/commit/dcd39c7eb301b6010668abf18d2554b4d729e62a and checked in the initial post

[KiwiHawk]

Save attached, showing each building with it's new tier. Angels Building Tiers.zip

Edit: Save game is out of date. Algae farm 2 uses T1 ingredients

[KiwiHawk]

Tier changes for AR, for if (when) this PR does get accepted:

• Ore processors: T2 - T5
• Powder mixer: T2- T5
• Pellet press: T3 - T6
• Chemical plant: T1 - T4
• Algae farm: T0 - T3 ?

If Solder mixture is enabled, icons for ingot to molten solder recipes should be numbered 2, 3, 4. If Solder mixture is not enabled, recipes should be numbered 1, 2, 3.

angelsmods.trigger.smelting_products["solder"].mixture = true

[Pezzawinkle]

Quite a bit to unpack here... I would actually rather most of the smelting and bioprocessing buildings start at T1, not T0 since there is a clear need for basic ore processing and burner phase systems, if we give access to smelting etc too early, we risk overloading newer players. The hot iron steel recipe should be a requirement for at least some of the more advanced configurations, and we did add that for a very good reason. There are two directions to attack this from, one is the full blown suite, slowly taking things away, and starting from the bare minimum and ramping up. Due to the complexity of tech mode with industries, i think it would be better to start there, with its clearly defined partitions between tiers, then work back into component mode, and backwards to non-component mode, removing things which are clearly not accessible... the tier recipe system should be clearly defined (or added to if not) for most buildings. The only other tweaks which should be made from there are where you cannot actually progress.

[Pezzawinkle]

also, I thought the powderiser was a tier 1.5 proper item, since glass/silicon processing was required relatively early on

[KiwiHawk]

also, I thought the powderiser was a tier 1.5 proper item, since glass/silicon processing was required relatively early on

Do you mean the Powder mixer? Rather than Ore powderizer. This PR doesn't change where it is unlocked in the tech tree. It just changes it's ingredients to match the other buildings unlocked at the same time.

Sintering oven takes higher tier ingredients than Powder mixer. Even though they are unlocked at the same time. Similar issue applies to Pellet press and Ore processing machine.

This should be one of the least controversial parts of the PR.

[KiwiHawk]

Quite a bit to unpack here... I would actually rather most of the smelting and bioprocessing buildings start at T1, not T0 since there is a clear need for basic ore processing and burner phase systems, if we give access to smelting etc too early, we risk overloading newer players. The hot iron steel recipe should be a requirement for at least some of the more advanced configurations, and we did add that for a very good reason. There are two directions to attack this from, one is the full blown suite, slowly taking things away, and starting from the bare minimum and ramping up. Due to the complexity of tech mode with industries, i think it would be better to start there, with its clearly defined partitions between tiers, then work back into component mode, and backwards to non-component mode, removing things which are clearly not accessible... the tier recipe system should be clearly defined (or added to if not) for most buildings. The only other tweaks which should be made from there are where you cannot actually progress.

Bioprocessing

Bio buildings aren't available any earlier. The only bio building which is available at T0 is the Algae farm and that is not a new thing.

Metallurgy Changes

I knew that this would be the most controversial part of the PR.

I don't think that getting rid of Glowing hot iron plates will make things any more overloading to new players. Removing the basic steel process gives access to Metallurgy a bit sooner but not a lot earlier. It still requires Ore Sorting to be set up first. (I can make a change to the tech tree to better show this).

Glowing Hot Iron Plates is a new process anyway. With my changes, players have two fewer new processes available at Red Science level. It also makes this stage of the game less painful as the cheaper steel recipe is available sooner. Soon after becoming available, both processes will be completely replaced; as opposed to being build on and extended.

I remember the discussions around when Glowing hot iron plates were introduced. Previously, Bob's Steel recipe required Oxygen. However there is currently no way of getting Oxygen at Red Science tech without backing up another gas. I've solved this in the PR.

Overhauls

Agreed. Starting with science overhaul and working back sounds good. I'm interested to understand how this PR affects things when the additional overhauls are enabled!

My understanding is that components mode already makes a change similar to this PR, removing Steel as an ingredient / prerequisite for the Metallurgy buildings.

Edit: I've split some unrelated changes into their own issues / PRs.