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[Enhancement] Paper Boosts and electronic tweaks #803

Closed Pezzawinkle closed 1 year ago

Pezzawinkle commented 2 years ago

Disable wood-Wooden Board Change wooden board to fibre board Add bleach process for NaOCl

Buff processing (recipe time output quantity and productivity interaction)

KiwiHawk commented 2 years ago

Recipes solid-sodium-sulfate-separation and solid-sodium-hydroxide are currently unlocked by Sodium processing (blue science). These recipes are needed to complete the sulfur loop for Paper 2. Paper 2 is unlocked by Green science.

Paper 2 also requires a prohibitively high amount of Sodium Hydroxide. Could some of the sodium hypochlorite be recycled into Sodium hydroxide somehow?

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When buffing the recipes, T3 should be buffed the most, then T2. To make the extra complexity worthwhile over just duplicating the low tech option.

atburghardt commented 1 year ago

I made a proposal merge request with my solution to this issue:

Step 1: Create a need for both paper and wood.

Instead of disabling wood -> wooden-boards, I added a new recipe. image This recipe "phenolic-board-paper"

The original phenolic-board recipe is altered:

Goal of the changes: Player is forced to start with an inefficient method of producing wooden/phenolic boards and can swap with better tech to a more efficient tech. Both first recipes are bad enough, to make the player swap to the better recipe, but are forced through technology requirements. wooden-boards are inefficient via paper and very efficient via wood. phenolic-boards are inefficient via wood and very efficient via paper.

So timeline would be

Step 2: Fixing paper recipes General for all paper-bleaching reduce time from 4->3 Paper 1 image

Paper 3:

  1. kraft-cooking-washing old image new image
    • input increase liquid-white-liquor from 40-80
    • output increase liquit-black-liquor from 35/40 -> 55/60
  2. paper-bleaching-3 old image new image
    • reduce input gas-oxygen 60->20
    • buff output from 6->8

Goal:

Here are helmod Production lines for 15 paper/s: Paper 2 image Paper 3: image image

LovelySanta commented 1 year ago

See #880