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[Idea] War Days #444

Closed watergod1234 closed 3 years ago

watergod1234 commented 5 years ago

Hello! There have been numerous posts lately about having PVP enabled in towns perminately or for a couple weeks as a trail. As a compromise to players who don’t want PVP enabled all the time I propose maybe only on Saturdays (could be any day, it doesn’t matter) PVP would be enabled in all towns. It’d be like a dedicated war day (or the next closest thing) for nations to siege and kill their enemies on a periodic basis. Since everyone would know when it is people would prepare or choose not to go outside during wartime. To me, this seems like a good compromise to everything. Not having any war type function makes the geopolitics on a “geopolitical sandbox” kind of stale in my opinion.

ghost commented 5 years ago

War days used to be a thing on classic, I don't know why they were disabled. (Well Probably lag) It would be nice to see them come back so long as you have a way to opt out xD

watergod1234 commented 5 years ago

You can opt out by not attacking anyone or just hiding inside. Players won’t be able to break blocks still.

Renarchat commented 5 years ago

War days would be epic

watergod1234 commented 5 years ago

Yeah and the best thing is that it is already available within the restrictions of the towny plugin. This means they wouldnt have to do a thing development-wise.

Kyoris commented 5 years ago

i support this idea

alekb1 commented 5 years ago

I support this idea!

Renarchat commented 5 years ago

I support this idea!!

watergod1234 commented 5 years ago

I support this idea!!!

Pengun78 commented 5 years ago

Cant we have the towny war plugin, where you can actually take lands instead of having to fight in claims without purpose

ghost commented 5 years ago

Flag wars are shit. I saw them being used on WorldMC (Tailz's gay server). While being on the winning side, it was fun, (now idc about Conman), but the loosing side was fucking obliterated and they lost everything. It's a broken plugin that allows for a toxic mess.

Pengun78 commented 5 years ago

The number 1 thing we all want is a war plugin except we get lag😎😎😎😎😎

4noah18 commented 5 years ago

despite your mom being gay, water, this is a good idea and i agree

watergod1234 commented 5 years ago

Cant we have the towny war plugin, where you can actually take lands instead of having to fight in claims without purpose

The purpose is for the pure fun of fighting. Games shouldn't be all about incentive all the time. Some times I just go out and kill people just for fun. But I agree, it would be nice if there were a separate plugin but this is already possible within the limitations of the towny plugin and could be done with little to no effort development-wise.

despite your mom being gay, water, this is a good idea and i agree

Thanks I'm glad you agree!

JuliusCaesar12 commented 5 years ago

The purpose is for the pure fun of fighting. Games shouldn't be all about incentive all the time. Some times I just go out and kill people just for fun. But I agree, it would be nice if there were a separate plugin but this is already possible within the limitations of the towny plugin and could be done with little to no effort development-wise.

Firstly, for killing people just for fun, you should be stabbed 27 times. Secondly, I would like to see a world war in EMC just for once so we can claim new lands.

Kyoris commented 5 years ago

Talking about a world war... How about we save a backup of the server and then start a world domination game to see who stands out on top after say two weeks... Then reload the save and continue on as if nothing has happened...

watergod1234 commented 5 years ago

Firstly, for killing people just for fun, you should be stabbed 27 times. Secondly, I would like to see a world war in EMC just for once so we can claim new lands.

Yeah dude. I enjoy fighting people. There’s no reason that should be looked down upon. It’s fun and thrilling to fight against a similarly skilled and geared opponent. The only thing that ruins these encounters is running into claims, which could be solved by this proposition I have suggested.

Pengun78 commented 5 years ago

Its just that fighting wont give lands, neither damage, just pvping and sometimes 1 of them dies, the other side can just randomly stop pvping and nothing changes

Pengun78 commented 5 years ago

We need an actual war plugin but itll never be made which makes emc more and more boring every day for me

watergod1234 commented 5 years ago

We need an actual war plugin but itll never be made which makes emc more and more boring every day for me

Its just that fighting wont give lands, neither damage, just pvping and sometimes 1 of them dies, the other side can just randomly stop pvping and nothing changes

This is a temporary solution that can be brought RIGHT NOW. Would you rather have this or nothing?

Pengun78 commented 5 years ago

Ur right, but i doubt itll be temporary, i actually think forever as no one that can code is taking the time to make a war plugin

watergod1234 commented 5 years ago

Ur right, but i doubt itll be temporary, i actually think forever as no one that can code is taking the time to make a war plugin

Even so this is the best alternative.

Pengun78 commented 5 years ago

I agree

HaydenTownley commented 5 years ago

I dont belive this is a good soultion in the slightest. As much as there is a need a soultion for dealing with conflicts but a dedicated day where you arnt allowed to be safe even in your town is not the way. That is asking for players to go around harassing and just attacking people for the lols adn kinda ruins one full day of the server for people. At best if they add this it wouldnt be a weekend day and it would be Monday-Thursday which would impact players less but its not what the server is about. Im all for a soultion to resolving conflicts but this isnt it.

Pengun78 commented 5 years ago

I do live the idea i just think towns would team up and go hunt and like 4v1 people

ghost commented 5 years ago

I dont belive this is a good soultion in the slightest. As much as there is a need a soultion for dealing with conflicts but a dedicated day where you arnt allowed to be safe even in your town is not the way. That is asking for players to go around harassing and just attacking people for the lols adn kinda ruins one full day of the server for people. At best if they add this it wouldnt be a weekend day and it would be Monday-Thursday which would impact players less but its not what the server is about. Im all for a soultion to resolving conflicts but this isnt it.

It's a "war day," a server event. This may be once per week and what not. But, I do very much like Kyoris' idea

HaydenTownley commented 5 years ago

Pock im refering to once a week thing. If you want a war day like on classic then thats fine but the server wont be able to handle the lag. But once a week war is no fun. It just makes it so people avoid the server for a day if they dont want to be attacked.

Pengun78 commented 5 years ago

Without any sort of event like this, people can pvp what they want but it wont change anything. For example nation1 takes land of nation2 by making a town in their territory, nation2 attacks but that doesnt mean the town will go. Nation1 could also hide in claims

ghost commented 5 years ago

StOp CaLlInG mE PoCk.

idk who u r

Pengun78 commented 5 years ago

Ill always call u pock 😎😎😎😎

ghost commented 5 years ago

Ill always call u pock 😎😎😎😎

You're epic 😎

Renarchat commented 5 years ago

why is this chat full of retard pacifists Just assume you are shit at pvp just like me <o/

watergod1234 commented 5 years ago

I dont belive this is a good soultion in the slightest. As much as there is a need a soultion for dealing with conflicts but a dedicated day where you arnt allowed to be safe even in your town is not the way. That is asking for players to go around harassing and just attacking people for the lols adn kinda ruins one full day of the server for people. At best if they add this it wouldnt be a weekend day and it would be Monday-Thursday which would impact players less but its not what the server is about

It's the only solution that doesn't require any effort and could be done right now. If don't want to get attacked just don't make any enemies or stay inside. In my eyes a majority of the community wants some sort of PVP war-like function like this instead of gearing up for nothing.

ghost commented 5 years ago

I've been on a towny server had pvp enabled on the weekends. It worked well, towns that had good walls allowed residents to continue as normal and even then you could still hide inside your house.

HaydenTownley commented 5 years ago

I dont belive most of the server wants a pvp war like function. There is a good part of the server but no way a majority. The staff is failing to help with people with that playstyle but we cant have a system that stops others from playing there normal playstyle and force you to play a specfic way.

watergod1234 commented 5 years ago

I dont belive most of the server wants a pvp war like function. There is a good part of the server but no way a majority. The staff is failing to help with people with that playstyle but we cant have a system that stops others from playing there normal playstyle and force you to play a specfic way.

Every single person who has commented on this thread with the exception of you seems to favor this idea or wants a similar war system. Tell me, how is that not a majority?

ghost commented 5 years ago

It's not a majority because its only people who have viewed this thread which is a very very small sample pool, make a straw pole on earthmc reddit and share it everywhere.

watergod1234 commented 5 years ago

Well maybe but even so, this is a good compromise to satisfy both sides. Only 14% of the time PVP would be enabled in towns. This isn’t perfect but the best compromise.

watergod1234 commented 5 years ago

Also the players that commented on this thread for the most part are extremely active and experienced players. In the community of these players, war is a highly wanted feature. This proposition also requieres little to no stakes so if you lost the worst that would happen is that you die. Nothing happens to your town, nothing is destroyed, no fuss.

ghost commented 5 years ago

I dont belive most of the server wants a pvp war like function. There is a good part of the server but no way a majority. The staff is failing to help with people with that playstyle but we cant have a system that stops others from playing there normal playstyle and force you to play a specfic way.

Every single person who has commented on this thread with the exception of you seems to favor this idea or wants a similar war system. Tell me, how is that not a majority?

I'm against war, always have been. I just see this as an easy and fair solution to people who want war, and to people who don't. War events are fun, and they're actually okay as they aren't a 24/7 occurrence.

It's not a majority because its only people who have viewed this thread which is a very very small sample pool, make a straw pole on earthmc reddit and share it everywhere.

He makes a point ^^

Also the players that commented on this thread for the most part are extremely active and experienced players. In the community of these players, war is a highly wanted feature. This proposition also requieres little to no stakes so if you lost the worst that would happen is that you die. Nothing happens to your town, nothing is destroyed, no fuss.

Activeness... yeah....

Renarchat commented 5 years ago

People who dont want war are usually less active <o/

watergod1234 commented 5 years ago

People who dont want war are usually less active <o/

Exactly. So why not satisfy the people who are playing your server the most? This is it! cough Fix and Karl

JuliusCaesar12 commented 5 years ago

What they need to do is make a plugin that activates itself on a specified day and won't let people attack people from their nation or allies. Meaning you can only attack your enemies.

ghost commented 5 years ago

What they need to do is make a plugin that activates itself on a specified day and won't let people attack people from their nation or allies. Meaning you can only attack your enemies.

Karl has said several -several- times there is no such plugin that exists or works in this fashion and that he won't be devoting time to make a war plugin.

falconov commented 5 years ago

I personally don't mind a war day, but I don't want to have to not play once a week because of people killing me and taking my stuff. (I am primarily a builder) If war days are to be used could we toggle keep inventory for pvp kills?

watergod1234 commented 5 years ago

I personally don't mind a war day, but I don't want to have to not play once a week because of people killing me and taking my stuff. (I am primarily a builder) If war days are to be used could we toggle keep inventory for pvp kills?

If you’re a builder then build a wall and you’ll be fine.

Renarchat commented 5 years ago

ya

falconov commented 5 years ago

That would ruin my towns layout. It is a town. Not a castle

falconov commented 5 years ago

I am not building a wall just for someone to then go and complain that people are hiding behind walls

ghost commented 5 years ago

Then stay inside its only one day a week or don't login. Unless you have something constructive to say besides I don't like this its too much work or does not fit my town, like your town is the only one that exists, then fuck off.

Renarchat commented 5 years ago

Its your fault that your town isnt walled <o/