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Have a MediaWiki instance at wiki.perl6.org #34

Open lucasbuchala opened 5 years ago

lucasbuchala commented 5 years ago

Would it be possible to have an MediaWiki instance installed at the wiki.perl6.org domain to be used by the users, core developers and enthusiast of this language?

I think it can be used to put anything that doesn't have a place already. Any user comment, notes, snippets, etc. The intention is not to replicate the documentation already existent at docs.perl6.org.

Note that I am specific about the wiki engine: it has to be MediaWiki. I believe it to be the most appropriate for this situation and I'm strongly against picking any other engine. (we can expand on the pros/cons of each engine later :)

Please, project leaders, what are your opinion? Should be a easy boolean decision: "No, the project doesn't want a standalone wiki at this moment" or "Ok, let's try this idea".

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labster commented 5 years ago

I'm staff for miraheze.org, a user-supported, non-profit wiki farm. While I'm not commenting if this is per se a good idea, I'll just note that Miraheze would be more than willing to host a wiki for Perl 6 and install extensions on request.

(Also if any of you would be able to security-review extensions written by random people in PHP, we could always use the help.)

On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 2:49 PM Lucas Buchala notifications@github.com wrote:

Would it be possible to have an MediaWiki instance installed at the wiki.perl6.org domain to be used by the users, core developers and enthusiast of this language?

I think it can be used to put anything that doesn't have a place already. Any user comment, notes, snippets, etc. The intention is not to replicate the documentation already existent at docs.perl6.org.

Note that I am specific about the wiki engine: it has to be MediaWiki. I believe it to be the most appropriate for this situation and I'm strongly against picking any other engine. (we can expand on the pros/cons of each engine later :)

Please, project leaders, what are your opinion? Should be a easy boolean decision: "No, the project doesn't want a standalone wiki at this moment" or "Ok, let's try this idea".

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lucasbuchala commented 5 years ago

Miraheze uses MediaWiki, that's perfect! Seems to be possible to host a wiki there and also use the wiki.perl6.org domain: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Custom_domains. And even more important, we can put Camelia as the logo!

Thanks @labster, I didn't know this service.

I would be happy with a wiki there.

Xliff commented 5 years ago

Is it just me, or does running a Perl6 Wiki in anything but Perl6 seem a bit ironic?

Other than that, I will go crawl back under my rock.

AlexDaniel commented 5 years ago

@kensanata! Help!

lucasbuchala commented 5 years ago

I see wiki and static site generators as tools, I don't care what languages there are written in, just that they are good tools. I won't be messing with their source code. I think MediaWiki and Jekyll are good tools and don't bother that they are written in PHP and Ruby and not Perl 6. Thinking this way we would also have to edit and manage Perl 6 source code with text editors and version control systems written in Perl 6, no?

chsanch commented 5 years ago

Why don't start with Github´s wiki? And then see if we need something with more features.

lucasbuchala commented 5 years ago

For those interested in playing with the idea: https://perl6.miraheze.org

AlexDaniel commented 5 years ago

I see wiki and static site generators as tools, I don't care what languages there are written in

@lucasbuchala pretty much any wiki I maintained needed custom extensions. I don't think it will be different in this case. My bots already use some wiki pages (e.g. https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/wiki/Monthly-Bug-Squash-Day and https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/wiki/ChangeLog-Draft) to get things done, and I'd love to have some automation in another direction.