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Suggestions for CSM #205

Open SanAndreaP opened 7 years ago

SanAndreaP commented 7 years ago

Here I will list all dis-/approved suggestions from the community. Feel free to comment on this issue with your suggestion and we will evaluate it.

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Discussions can be held on the official clay soldier discord server: https://discord.gg/sVA4zXx

Ambrosia27 commented 7 years ago

Ambrosia's Idea Page

New Soldier Ideas

New Mounts Ideas

New Upgrade Ideas

Player Items Ideas

Features to bring back

SanAndreaP commented 7 years ago
Ambrosia27 commented 7 years ago

San you should also add a new item, dye on a fishing rod. crafted by placing 1 fishing rod plus a dye in the crafting table. Function - When fishing rod is casted on to the ground somewhere, the clay soldiers will swarm around it like they have a king. im sure this is a function already but i can not get it to work for some reason. Have a good day :P

sylveon666 commented 7 years ago

Suggestions: Bow-40 uses. shoots arrows that deal 3-4 damage. can only be used if arrow is equipped. Eye of Ender-when HP hits 25% teleports the soldier a random distance from the location Dragon Egg-soldier gets 50x hp. makes all limited use items last 100x longer. it's attacks deal 300% more damage. gives the soldier wings. Potion-1 use. can be thrown in a distance. effect depends on the potion used Ice(block)-10 uses-freezes enemies rendering them unable to attack and use their items for 3 seconds.also slows Mounts: Elephant-all damage taken by soldier is directed to the elephant. unlike other mounts Elephant can attack by itself. it's damage is 50% of it's rider's best weapon

TeddyTerror commented 6 years ago

suggestion: clay soldiers can run under the slabs.(8bits tall,for the chisel and bits mod).

badtimetim commented 6 years ago

you should bring back the ability for clay soldiers to make houses again it sounds like a good idea i honestly don't know why you took it out please bring that back.

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suggestion: clay soldiers can run under the slabs.(8bits tall,for the chisel and bits mod).

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SanAndreaP commented 6 years ago

The mod is in alpha, so not everything is implemented yet. Also house building will come back as an addon when the mod is finished.

badtimetim commented 6 years ago

cool that's good to know I got no more suggestions then have fun with mod-making

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The mod is in alpha, so not everything is implemented yet. Also house building will come back as an addon when the mod is finished.

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TheRoyalMango commented 6 years ago

Here a few ideas for CSM

Bows- dropping string and sticks will have the soldiers make little bows. the bows require sticks to shoot (as arrows) and deplete a soldiers health either by half or a instant kill.

Alliances- different colors of clay might become allied and turn into a new mix of the 2 colors. some colors will never ally with others (like red and blue). this option could be disabled in mod settings, and maybe a new item called "allegiance banner" (sort of like the opposite of the disrupters). the "Allegiance Banner" would work by simply clicking on to nations to combine them together.

Collection- the soldiers can be equipped with axes and pickaxes to mine nearby recources and possibly craft their own upgrades.

Cities/economy- id love to see some civilian clay (perhaps just unarmed soldiers?) that focus on building towns and collecting resources and crafting upgrades.

Mobs- mobs can attack the soldiers, and vise versa. however because of their small size the soldiers would be very hard to hit/kill. soldiers are also almost undetectable by mobs unless they are picking a fight to get mobs away from their town or looking for resources.

Walls- in correlation with my civilian idea, civilians will build walls made of wood or any resource they can find. maybe the houses will also be built by this type of block. (block size would be about the normal height for a block, normal length, but width would be 1/3)

roads and cities- nations will eventually build multiple cities. they will also build roads in the cities and from city to city to increase travel speed.

Carts- maybe some type of small animal could pull small carts they have a low passenger cap but can carry materials. maybe they can only drive on roads giving roads a purpose, and maybe a type of explorer wagon that can travel on all terrain but water.

Clay soldier forge- each city depending on size will produce "taxes" for the color. once a certain point is reached, a furnace is built in a house and then little baby soldiers are made.

Taxes- taxes are generated by cities. taxes are used to buy furnaces and eventually a new generation. taxes are also needed to upkeep a large army or workforce. if not enough taxes are being paid to upkeep the army, the army will drop their weapons and become civilians. (this option can be disabled)

recruitment- for a civilian to become a soldier, they will have to be trained in an army camp (a building civilians build). they then will be given some kind of weapon. after they are armed and trained they become a soldier. (trained civilians can also just be spawned in so players looking to host massive battles don't have to wait for taxes and cities)

These last ideas are very far from CSM's current game play so maybe this could be some sort of optional add on. but i do understand these ideas are far fetched so if you reject them i get it.

id love to see some soldiers with muskets and cannons. they would line up and do some cool 16th century battles. maybe some galleons can be included too. also maybe the soldiers can dig mini tranches in blocks to decrease the chance of an enemy hitting them with a ranged weapon. also id love to see some WW1 things such as mini tanks, aircraft carriers, battle ships, AA guns, and biplanes.

KitaKiller commented 6 years ago

add boats

Shadoward12 commented 6 years ago

-Eye of Ender Ranged ability. When used, the target's position is revealed to nearby allies of the user. This nullifies the egg upgrade of the target. Perhaps this is just a passive ability where the user shares vision with allies.

-Redstone Torch Melee weapon/upgrade. Increases the duration of status effects inflicted by the equipped soldier. Perhaps inflicts normal duration against targets with iron block-upgraded shields. Does not apply to afterburn.

-Popped Chorus Fruit A soldier carrying this upgrade can cure an enderpearl/zombie soldier. Perhaps they can only do this to zombies that would normally be allies. I don't think they should have to kill the zombie, as a similar result could be achieved by just giving them clay.

-Pumpkin/Jack-o-lantern Equipped soldier will actively seek out and attack zombie soldiers but will be neutral towards non-zombie soldiers. Maybe non-zombies will also be neutral toward the equipped soldiers. Like sponge, but for zombies. Maybe the soldier can also cure zombies by killing them or has more uses on the above upgrade.

-Firework Rocket Projectile explosive, single use. I can entirely understand if this idea is denied, but it's worth putting it out there.

-Shulker Shell (Sorry if this is considered end-tier) Defensive/support upgrade. A soldier equipped with a shulker shell becomes immune to standard projectiles, spare for emeralds. Perhaps provides allies with a defensive buff - or puts up a barrier, if possible. Maybe the equipped soldier's attack options are limited or they just become passive and instead closely follow allies. May require a brick as a prerequisite to limit the soldier's offensive potential. Or this idea might be completely ridiculous.

-Tripwire Hook A ranged weapon that pulls the target toward the user. If the target has an iron ingot, the user will instead be pulled toward the target. This is counteracted if the user also has an iron ingot. A soldier pulled by this weapon - whether target or user - will be dragged off of a mount they are riding.

-Banner (I imagine this would be quite difficult to implement, but I figured I'd throw it out there.) Changes the function of the Nexus so soldiers can't destroy/deactivate it simply by attacking it. Instead, the Nexus takes on a more "capture the flag"-like function. When attacked, the Nexus would produce a flag that the attacking soldiers will try to take back to their own Nexus. Defending soldiers will attack the flag carrier at all costs. If it is successfully captured, the Nexus it came from is destroyed/disabled as normal. Optionally, the soldier carrying the flag may have drawbacks such as limited mobility, the inability to attack, or the defending soldiers may be able to easily track the carrier.

CarlFilip19 commented 6 years ago

-How About Soldiers Made Of (Normal Or Glazed) Terracotta, Soldiers Made Of Concrete, -Smaller Crafting Tables Specially Made For Clay Soldiers To Use For Crafting. -Clay Dimension, Where Clay Is Renewable. Great For More Armies! -Clay Soldiers Can Use Smaller Ladders To Climb Up (Crafting Recipe: 6 Small Sticks (Two Small Stick Can Be Crafted From One Stick) In A Vertical 2*3 Area) Similar To A Regular Ladder, But The Distance Between The Ladder Levels Are Short Enough For Clay Soldiers To Climb Them. -Tiny Clay Variants Of Minecraft Mobs, Clay Soldiers Will Sometimes Attack Them, Sometimes Not. These Mobs Drop Clay Variants Of Their Normal Counterpart's Drops (Like, Clay Porkchop From The Clay Pigs). Some Drops Will Be "Eaten" By The Clay Soldiers Or Used For Soldiers To Craft Weapons With In The Smaller Crafting Tables.

sylveon666 commented 6 years ago

New suggestions: Support items: We clearly need some diversity here, although there is glistering melon, that's all there is, that's the only support item in this mod, we need more diversity with weapons and not make them all damage-based. also it'll be interesting Support items: Golden apple-4 uses, heals 50% of soldier's max HP and also grants Absorption for 10 seconds that absorbs 4 damage Shiny golden apple-2 uses, heals an ally for all their hp and grants them Resistance,Absorption 3 and Regeneration II for 5 seconds Eye Of Ender-1 use, soldier targets a location and channels for 3 seconds, then teleports itself and all nearby allied clay soldiers to the target location Tipped Arrow-20 uses, deals 3-5 damage and also grants the effect of the tipped arrow, targets allies instead if the tipped arrow's effect is beneficial Leash-soldier throws a leash, if it hits a non-allied clay soldier, it is unable to move or attack while the soldier pulls the leashed soldier into it. Ender Crystal-if the soldier who has this item is killed, the Ender Crystal creates a mini-black hole, slowly pulling all nearby soldiers into it, then after 5 seconds it explodes. dealing massive damage Mounts: Dog: 20 hp, can fight back, damage is equal to 50% of soldier's best weapon Elephant:40 hp, immune to status effects like poison and fire, deals damage equal to 1-2 damage Legendary mounts: these mounts have game changing effects but in order for a soldier to ride one they must tame it by killing it first Sea Guardian: 60 hp, can fly, has the whirlpool ability: whirlpool: deals damage to nearby soldiers while pulling them in Fire Guardian:50 hp, can fly, has the sacred fire ability: sacred fire: automatically kills a random non allied clay soldier, while also turning them to brick dolls

badtimetim commented 6 years ago

can you add houses for clay soldiers to make houses with wooden blocks

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New suggestions: Support items: We clearly need some diversity here, although there is glistering melon, that's all there is, that's the only support item in this mod, we need more diversity with weapons and not make them all damage-based. also it'll be interesting Support items: Golden apple-4 uses, heals 50% of soldier's max HP and also grants Absorption for 10 seconds that absorbs 4 damage Shiny golden apple-2 uses, heals an ally for all their hp and grants them Resistance,Absorption 3 and Regeneration II for 5 seconds Eye Of Ender-1 use, soldier targets a location and channels for 3 seconds, then teleports itself and all nearby allied clay soldiers to the target location Tipped Arrow-20 uses, deals 3-5 damage and also grants the effect of the tipped arrow, targets allies instead if the tipped arrow's effect is beneficial Leash-soldier throws a leash, if it hits a non-allied clay soldier, it is unable to move or attack while the soldier pulls the leashed soldier into it. Ender Crystal-if the soldier who has this item is killed, the Ender Crystal creates a mini-black hole, slowly pulling all nearby soldiers into it, then after 5 seconds it explodes. dealing massive damage Mounts: Dog: 20 hp, can fight back, damage is equal to 50% of soldier's best weapon Elephant:40 hp, immune to status effects like poison and fire, deals damage equal to 1-2 damage Legendary mounts: these mounts have game changing effects but in order for a soldier to ride one they must tame it by killing it first Sea Guardian: 60 hp, can fly, has the whirlpool ability: whirlpool: deals damage to nearby soldiers while pulling them in Fire Guardian:50 hp, can fly, has the sacred fire ability: sacred fire: automatically kills a random non allied clay soldier, while also turning them to brick dolls

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badtimetim commented 6 years ago

add the ability for clay soldiers to make houses if you give them wooden blocks or whatever

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SpectralKyurem commented 6 years ago

My suggestions:

Anyway, these are a couple of suggestions, and I assume many of them have been used before, but please take these into account, and I hope that they will be accepted.

Edits: Fixed Explanations, fixed some grammatical issues

BobRossss commented 6 years ago

A couple of suggestions I posted on discord.

  1. Fireworks rocket, 1 use, when the clay soldier equipped with it hits another clay soldier it will launch it into the air and explode with the firework rocket.
  2. Clay blocks, core upgrade, when given to soldier it makes the soldier's arms get bigger like the iron ingot and makes the soldier be as tall as a block or less. It also gives it 3 times the health as a regular soldier, and it moves slowly and attacks slowly. It cannot ride any mounts.
  3. Obsidian, 1-2 uses, throwable, requires a iron ingot core soldier to use, and when it is thrown at another soldier it will create a black hole effect that sucks in all enemy clay soldiers within a 6 block radius. (I know this may be already on your idea list, but I just wanted to add on to it.)
darthvader45 commented 6 years ago

Any idea why larger clay companions are a definite no? I'd love to see it in either this mod or an addon(4 clay blocks around a soul sand makes a life core, build like an iron golem, clay on the bottom left right and top with life core in the middle). Has half the health of the player, follows the player around and can help the player, much like wolves.

BobRossss commented 6 years ago
  1. Iron Bar - 1 use, when used the soldier creates a barrier that acts as a shield around itself and makes it unattackable for 6 seconds. The soldier also cannot move, but can still attack.
  2. Magma Block - Same as fireballs, just adds a lot of uses to it like emerald blocks.
  3. Vines - Acts like boots, same uses as leather, applies a tiny bit of speed and allows soldier to attack faster.
  4. Music disc - When soldier picks it up it will start playing the disc's song and emit a particle effect. When right clicked on soldier it stops playing and gains a new particle effect to show that he has one. You can right click it again to play it.
  5. Tipped Arrows, same as arrow but when used it applies a potion effect to the victim.
  6. Bear - Companion, little less health than a turtle, follows soldier who tamed around and helps him in battle with a strike attack. Giving leather to the bear makes it have armor, and you can give wool to it just as you can with soldiers.
  7. Iron Nugget, 3 uses, when used it makes soldiers have a spectral arrow effect and calls all soldiers who are not in battle in a 10 block radius to help attack.
BobRossss commented 6 years ago
  1. Redstone Torch - Like a stick but gives a redstone effect to the victim.
  2. Eye of Ender - 3 uses, when used it makes the victim go blind for a while like redstone except more uses.
  3. Tripwire Hook - 3 uses, when used it is thrown at a soldier or something else the soldier can come and get it back, basically a throwing knife. When victim is hit it is either an instant kill or takes off half health. If it takes off half health the hook will gradually take damage off of the victim over time because it is stuck inside it. The soldier can get it back when he dies.
darthvader45 commented 6 years ago

Soul Sand: Being imbued with extra souls gives the soldier the ability to give life to inanimate clay lumps/blocks around it, as well as revive fallen allies. Bricked ones will still require ghast tears, however.

SanAndreaP commented 6 years ago

Alright, I've looked through all of the suggestions here and added a list of things in the first post. If you have any other suggestions, please post them here, thanks.

darthvader45 commented 6 years ago

Cool. You still opposed to larger clay soldiers? Also, iron nuggets as an extra throwing item, can have infinite supply with iron block (not iron ingot, as that already gives soldiers an iron core).

SanAndreaP commented 6 years ago

There's already a larger soldier, but it's an easter egg nobody found out how to get until now. Iron nuggets are already on the "approved" list with sth. else in mind

darthvader45 commented 6 years ago

What is the Easter egg anyway? I'm stumped.

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There's already a larger soldier, but it's an easter egg nobody found out how to get until now. Iron nuggets are already on the "approved" list with sth. else in mind

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SanAndreaP commented 6 years ago

You'd need to rename a soldier to something specific in the anvil https://github.com/SanAndreasP/ClaySoldiersMod/blob/master/src/main/java/de/sanandrew/mods/claysoldiers/entity/soldier/EntityClaySoldier.java#L1050

That's all the hints I'll give

darthvader45 commented 6 years ago

Huh, converting those hex numbers into characters gave me something that looks like isboss. Not sure though.

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You'd need to rename a soldier to something specific in the anvil https://github.com/SanAndreasP/ClaySoldiersMod/ blob/master/src/main/java/de/sanandrew/mods/claysoldiers/entity/soldier/ EntityClaySoldier.java#L1050

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darthvader45 commented 6 years ago

i58055

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Huh, converting those hex numbers into characters gave me something that looks like isboss. Not sure though.

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You'd need to rename a soldier to something specific in the anvil https://github.com/SanAndreasP/ClaySoldiersMod/blob/master/ src/main/java/de/sanandrew/mods/claysoldiers/entity/ soldier/EntityClaySoldier.java#L1050

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jesus11q commented 6 years ago

Here is my ideas. by me (jesus11q)

-netherrack soldiers.

-ice soldiers.

-bring back this: the soldier hurt sound

-sponge soldiers.

-apple soldiers.

-mecha soldiers (a robot soldier)

-magma soldiers.

-bedrock soldiers (make them the only soldier pacific type).

-bring to light: the star fruit.

-cobblestone soldiers.

-wool soldiers. i know that its disapproved, but use the classic wool textures for make them more distinguashable.

-end-items. why that are disapproved? that maybe will be cool!

-disapproved mounts. why? dragons are very cool!

-bring back this: when the soldiers attacks the hostile mobs like in the classic mod.

-why no-man-made objects? thats maybe will be cool.

-bring to light: dog and cat mounts.

-cactus soldiers

-clay skeleton.

-cake soldiers.

-cookie soldiers.

-Golden apple soldiers( a counterpart of the normal apple soldiers)

-clay creeper.

-clay snowman.

-clay enderman.

-players tools and weapons: make them little like the soldiers weapons

-boats, chariots, carts: make the little too.

-concrete soldiers: make them with only one simple color for one like the concrete blocks. with the simple color will be distinguashable

-dinosaurs mounts

-add some villages like the normal MC villages.

-add some monumetal structures.

-golden apple: when a soldier eats it, a powerup effect will be present in the soldier, like in the player powerup effect

-ice block: gives to the soldier a ice breath that can freeze other soldiers.

-clay cake (item like the pumking cake): gives to the soldier a health refull

-emerald: gives to the soldier a emerald crown, cape and armour thats makes he a Ultimate soldier. or add another item that makes that

-pocion effects

-dyable armors for the soldiers, includes a helmet type that is correctly small for the soldiers,

-bring to light: the fairyes and the fairy fruits

-OPTIONAL: add a Clay soldiers dimension.

-the soldiers can up the ladder stairs.

-if you can, add a alien soldiers and space oxygen helmet addon for the galacticraft mod.

-and bring back the soldier sitdown

and here is my ideas and the Why for the disapproved ideas. please give a reply with the approved and disapproved points about this.

thanks ;)

sylveon666 commented 6 years ago

more Ideas: -Dragon mount(can carry 2 clay soldiers, can fly) -Bring back the wood building feature, with more buildings ofc -Soldiers compatible with potion effects -Vines(soldier's attacks slow enemies) -Torch (held item, soldier gives off light) -Ice Block (projectile, deals 1-2 damage, enemies hit are crippled, making them take 3 more damage from all damage dealt to them for 5 seconds) -Tripwire Hook (projectile, deals 3-4 damage, upon hitting an enemy soldier or reaching end of range the hook goes back) -Egg (projectile, deals 0 damage, and all clay soldiers nearby will attack the soldier who was hit by the egg, basically a signal to attack that particular soldier)

brihendy commented 6 years ago

suggestion: I see that building is not a priority for this mod any longer since these are clay SOLDIERS, but personally it is what makes the mod fun. The fighting can be amusing for a few hours but it looses its appeal besides making the soldiers fight in hunger games style fights. This suggestion is to make a new mod, or in reality just copy this mod and add building again and call it something else. Clay kingdoms maybe, or something like that. No work would even have to go into it, this mod is good already building was just a major part for me. I run an older version of this mod just to keep building, and have made worlds where i have allowed the clay soldiers to build villages that progress into cities. creating walled cities and whole kingdoms of a certain color of soldier can be a lot of fun but only when the soldiers are building their own homes. Then once these kingdoms are made battles play out on much larger scales, and it makes that aspect of this mod so much better. more buildings types and accurate planks being made would be cool to add, but i dont want to ask too much because i just really want you to fix building.

ultragamer564 commented 6 years ago

Heyo, it's me I guess. I was acquaintances with CliffracerX, and have been playing this mod since 1.3 versions, love how it's coming out to be! Would love for some of this stuff to come into the game, I actually got to play some of clay soldiers with CliffracerX, would love for there to be an official server of some sort with this mod.

Anyways, here are my suggestions:

Eye of Ender (soldiers teleport somewhere; limited uses) - @sylveon666

I think that maybe they could use them in battle, and teleport behind the enemy randomly, and they wouldn't be able to be hurt for just long enough so they can attack the clay soldier.

Lava Buckets would turn the clay soldiers into hardened versions. The difference would be that small smoke could be seen on them, and they'd be darker and less saturated. This would double their health and strength, but impair their movement highly. This would be infinite use by soldiers.

Melons act as an infinite food source for soldiers.

Vines would allow for soldiers to tangle their opponents, acting as slime, but slowly damaging them over time. Has 3 uses, and lasts for 3 seconds.

Slime Blocks act as an infinite slimeball source for soldiers.

Maybe Tipped Arrows would act as arrows, but their weapons can give the effects of the arrow? Not sure if it'd be too complicated or not, i'm not too experienced with Java coding myself. :/

Maps would allow soldiers to have atleast near infinite aggro-range. This would be usable by all clay soldiers, kinda like glass.

Bottles would allow for soldiers to instantly bottle up to 4-8 soldiers, making them unable to be revived by clay, and stuck. Once used up, it would be dropped by the soldier.

Instead, how about a Clay Barrier? Clay Barriers would act as a shield that doesn't let soldiers get in or out. You could configure the radius of the barrier, allow certain soldiers to get in, allow the option of the barrier being broken, and how much HP it has, and more! I think it'd be pretty fun to mess around with and make some cool battles with too.

Also, another idea. Clay Chutes! These would allow for clay soldiers to transport easily through. They would be attached to them if no enemies are around, and they will take a random path through it, if there are split paths in the chutes.

I really hope this mod becomes even better, especially by today, when the 1.13 version is released, and there's even more to work with once a 1.13 forge comes out!

sylveon666 commented 6 years ago

The dawn has arrived! Here is me suggesting some things again,

New items: Sugar Cane- ranged item, if it hits an enemy soldier they are ensnared in cane, unable to move and use ranged attacks, 1 use Vines- ranged item, if it hits an enemy soldier they are rooted, rendering them unable to move for 4 seconds, 1 use Water Bottle- beneficial item, cleanses soldier of any debuffs(being unable to move, attack, slowed, etc) 1 use Banner- if a soldier holds a banner of it's own color, it grants all nearby allied soldiers +1 attack damage if a soldier holds a banner of another color, it attracts that particular color and forces those soldiers to attack the banner holder (example a violet soldier is holding a red banner, all nearby red soldiers will attack the violet soldier holding the red banner first before all else) Torch-held item, radiates an aura that deals 1 damage to all nearby enemy soldiers each second, but being unable to attack and move significantly slower Ice- held item, radiates an aura that slows all nearby enemy soldiers, but being unable to move and move significantly slower Cobweb-ranged item, if it hits an enemy soldier they are massively slowed and cannot use ranged attacks, 4 uses Redstone Torch- held item, radiates an aura that grants all nearby allied soldiers +20% maximum health (minimum of 1 health, maximum of 25 health) but like ice and torch, the soldier is unable to attack and move slower Lever- throwable item, deals 3-4 damage to first soldier hit, it then drops to the ground, can be picked up to be able to be thrown again

Item reworks: Seeds-a soldier holding a seed can give their seed to a zombified allied soldier to cure them at the cost of 50% of their max health (minimum of 5 damage)

BadLucKWyvern commented 6 years ago

Suggestions Config option: Soldiers can take Ender pearls (Default: True) Config option: Corrupted soldiers will attack absolutly all entities wich not a soldier as well (default true) Config option: Wild clay soldiers groups can spawn randomly (soldiers skins will be randomized, Pumkin soldier, ice soldiers, watermelons soldiers, leaves soldiers etc as suggested by other players in this topic) Config option: Groups sizes and generation chances: 1soldier : 50% chances 2soldiers: 25% 4soldiers: 12.5% 8soldiers: 6.25% 16soldiers: 3.125% 32soldiers: 1.5625% 64soldiers: 0.78125% Between 64 and 128 soldiers: 0.78125% with a little tchat message that says a big army has been spoted, with a cooldown dalay each big armies Config option: Wild clay soldiers group can spawn corrupted (Default: False Config option: Wild clay soldiers group corruption chance: 5% Config option corruped soldiers from same or different teams are attacking themselves (Corruption alliance between teams: Default true) Config option: Wild soldiers give loots on death: Default False

For Survival Players: A "new nexus" called "Soldier factory": -It Will need RF to works, depending of the soldiers upgrades inside Exemple: a simple clay soldier will cost few RF. While a soldier with a diamond,clay, blaze stick etc; will cost even more RF, forcing the soldier to be produced more slowly. Selecting each upgrade in the factory will increase the RF needed for the soldier depending of the upgrade ( a diamond will be more expensive than a stick) WARNING: You Will see values reduced by 100%, it Means Dividing BY 2, like +100% is Multipliying by 2 -> Tweaks for the "Soldier Factory", Each tweaks will have to be "researched" with RF in the factory (research speed is 500RF/tick, auto research can be toggled): Each clay soldier upgrade will have to be researched, the research will cost much as important is the item (Basic researches are Sticks, Wool, Flints. Researches will have to be unlocked in a tree (You will not be able to unlock the diamond without unlocking the iron ingot first for exemple) -Upgrade1 cost 100,000RF (capped at +200% HP): +10% Soldiers HP +20% RF Cost -Upgrade2 cost 100,000RF (capped at -100% HP: -10% Soldiers HP -20%RF Cost -Upgrade3 cost 50,000RF (capped at -100%): -10% RF Cost -10% Production speed -Upgrade4 cost 50,000RF (capped at +100%): +10% RF Cost +10% Production speed -Upgrade5 cost 500,000RF (capped at 5 max lines): Adding a new production line, RF Cost +50% -Upgrade6 cost 250,000RF (capped at 100 max soldiers per factory, base is 10 Soldiers): +1 Maximum active Soldiers made by the Factory +10% RF cost -Upgrade7 cost 250,000RF (capped at 1 max soldiers per factory, base is 10 Soldiers): -1 Maximum active Soldiers made by the Factory -10% RF cost -Upgrade8 cost 1,000,000RF: Unlock Mounts for soldiers to spawn with (mounts will increase the RF cost depending of the mount type) -Upgrade9 cost 250,000RF(Capped to 1000hp, base is 100HP=50 hearts): +10 Factory Hp +10% factory reactivation time when destroyed -Upgrade10 cost 250,000RF(Capped to 10HP, base is 100HP=50 hearts): -10 Factory Hp -10% factory reactivation time when destroyed -Upgrade11 cost 250,000RF (Capped to 30, base is 5) +1 upgrade slot for clay soldiers +10% RF cost -Upgrade12 cost 250,000RF (Capped to 1, base is 5) -1 upgrade slot for clay soldiers -10% RF cost

The factory can be destroyed by an enemy clay soldier (even with a corrupted soldier from the same team), the base respawn time for the factory is 30 seconds if the factory is owned by a player Possibility to make spawning in nature "wild factories" owned by colorless Claysoldiers with little RF battery under it. If the wild factory is destroyed by a player soldier, the factory block color will be turned into the color of the soldier wich destroyed it, the block isn't harvestable if wild The factory isn't craftable: It can only be captured THEN harvested NOTE: To prevent the player to harvest the battery abouve the factory to prevent wild soldiers generation, the Battery will be part of the multiblock linked to the factory. When the factory will be captured, the battery block will be harvestable with the factory Clay soldiers equiped with clay balls can repair the factory for 5 hp with each clay ball

Config Option: Allow to create corrupted soldiers with a factory (Defaut: False) [Disable Ender Pearl soldier upgrade in factories] Suggestion: Disruptor that disentegrate all colors of clay soldiers should be a creative disruptor, when you join a team, you get a free disruptor that can disentegrate only your soldiers, to prevent the player "easy wins" on wild factories, or in PvP fight. All color disruptors can be crafted exepted the one for the wild soldiers (leaf, ice, pumpkin etc). A player on a blue team can craft other colors disruptors, but can't use it.

Factory UI a little window with the clay soldier appareance Tabs for production lines, for research, and for factory upgrades Lives left on the factory HPs remaining on the factory in a line production tab: the upgrade list of item, a red X will be toggled on non compatible upgrades (If the a body upgrade is already toggled, all other body upgrades will have a X, same for multiples projectile weapons, swords etc...)

Lets push a bit more far the team system approuved earlier: The player can choose only One team, other teams soldiers will aggro the player Configurable option to give a Number of live to the factory, if the factory lose all its lives, it will be captured (PvP Purpose) Configurable option: A factory option window for targets Exemple: Produced soldiers from the blue team will attack all other colors by default, you can prevent em to targets one or more teams with that filtering team window (PvP Purpose)

Creating a wand: By placing End Rods on the ground, you can link them as flag points for clay soldiers as move orders, or patroling orders Exemple: By placing 4 rods around a factory (lets do a square as a basic exemple), link them by right clicking it with the wand, then put the rod in the factory slot: Newly spawned clay soldiers from this factory will patrol by following the path created by rods, after reaching the rod N°4, they will go back to the N°1, etc. Rods can be flagged with a little flag of the team which reached the flag first (if multiple allied teams are in, the last team on the flag will put their flag on it) Unlinked rods will attract clay soldiers and will encourage them to stay around this rod Config option: Max number of clay soldiers from the SAME COLOR near an End Rod (Defaut 10), Allies with an another colors can be added, meaning that if a red and blu teams are ally, it will be possible to find 20 total soldiers on the same rod

Other Suggestions soldiers can build little houses with logs, why not making little automated gravel turrets with nether bricks ? Gravel turret hp: 10 Rework with the crown upgrade: soldiers around the King will have a little health regen and a small ammo refund/equipment repairs over time (repairing blaze rods, leather armors etc). If the item is already totaly used/destroyed, it will not be refunded by King's Aura

Maybe more suggestions soon, i hope it will be accepted even if it seems hard, it will develop the multiplayer PvP Purpose and the survival gameplay

Ironshadow123 commented 5 years ago

I kind of want an item that allows me to fight WITH the clay soldiers so maybe like an item that doesn't insta-kill a soldier? (EDIT: Maybe you could bind it to one team so you wouldn't be able to harm that team?)

Also, how about an upgrade, im not sure which item (maybe ink sac?), but maybe an item that allows a clay soldier to dodge?

ANOTHER EDIT: I got this idea from the panic necklace in Terraria, maybe a sugar cane makes a soldier go faster shortly after its hit?

Potshott commented 5 years ago

Banners could be a cosmetic upgrade like a war banner on the clay soldiers back

Ironshadow123 commented 5 years ago

Ironshadow's ideas -flags (soldiers linked to that flag will guard it, while all others besides allies will try to take it -ghosts (Soldiers given this upgrade will summon a ghost upon death, and target the soldier who killed them. They would have low damage an hp, have no upgrades, and be unable to pick up upgrades. If they managed to "get revenge" they would be revived at 20% HP and no upgrades) -Clay wall (When destroyed by a disruptor, all clay walls placed within a certain range will be destroyed) -Lingering effects (a block that when an upgrade would be put into it, it would distribute in a certain range temporarily, or until it runs out of upgrades) -retreat point (soldiers would return to this spot when below 20% HP if the retreat point is linked to that team) -stone (soldiers detect and target nearby chests)

-cocoa beans(allows soldier to steal an upgrade from another, 1 use) -Kits (created by putting multiple (compatible) upgrades into a block, and crafting a kit bag, which can be used to give soldiers multiple upgrades instantly -blueprints (creative item, creates a fort instantly for a team of your choice)

-glitch soldier spawner (craftable block. when activated, it will summon a configurable number of "glitch soldiers" which would be unable to deal damage, pick up upgrades, or take damage. They would be an annoyance, that can only push soldiers back. can be disrupted) -wooden slab (soldier turns into a catapult, and launches soldiers into the air. Airborne soldiers will die without feather) -stone slab (soldier turns into a missile, and launches themselves at an enemy. deals heavy damage, but will instantly kill user. string has no effect) -TNT (creates radiation around the soldier, damaging all enemies that enter the radius. User health is cut in half, and the user is unable to mount or use weapons. use with gunpowder and string to increase the effect.) -sugar cane (causes soldier to avoid combat unless another teammate is within a 3x3 radius around the soldier) -new mechanic idea: Rage (if a king dies, all soldiers of that team will aggro the soldier that killed the king until a new king is crowned) -Soul sand soldiers -hay bale (limited uses, a soldier can use it to create a decoy)

BobRossss commented 5 years ago
  1. Make enderpearl soldiers not die after not fighting.
  2. Because they can't die just make it so soldiers with seeds will not try to pick up enderpearls also. Then the infection could be fought off without all soldiers dieing.
BobRossss commented 5 years ago

Cake Soldiers

Ironshadow123 commented 5 years ago

I forgot that sugar cane was already an upgrade -iron ore (brick enchantment, allows soldier to spin and deal damage with iron spikes with no movement, but prevents soldiers form picking up or using other items.) -gold ore (makes user attack the lowest HP enemy. If given a glistering melon, it will heal lowest HP teammate instead. Also attacks allies, but doesn't heal them. Glass and glass pane increase effect.) -shears (act as scissors, allows user to break 1 wool block, or cause an opponent to bleed. bleeding prevents soldier from regenerating health. 1 use.) -beetroot seeds (2 uses, allows user to drop a lure for enemies to follow. If a soldier has glass or glass pane, they will be immune to the bait.) -melon seeds (same as above, but acts as snare and restores some of the users HP while damaging the victim. Victim trapped for 5 seconds. 1 use only.) -War block (when placed, nearby soldiers will deal more damage and will try to leave the radius.) -Peace block (when placed, nearby soldiers will deal less damage and will try to leave the radius) -Battle block (when placed, soldiers will try to come to it. Useful for starting battles with stubborn soldiers.) -Clay coins (when given to a soldier, for 30 seconds, opponents near the soldier will fear the soldier.) -Clay bosses (would aggro all teams. Can be spawned manually or will randomly spawn when 3 or more teams are fighting each other. would drop upgrades, but the player would not be able to pick them up. Teams might make temporary alliances to fight the boss. Configurable.) -EXP (soldiers get exp by killing opponents, and the more exp a soldier has, the more likely teammates are to assist them.) -Item frame soldiers (allows soldiers to use clay on soldiers hung up on item frames to bring them to life. Only revive their own color.) I think that I am probably asking a lot here, but these are just things I want to see soon. Hope the next update comes soon!

Potshott commented 5 years ago

a upgrade which makes soldiers not take damage from lava and magma and fire blocks

Ironshadow123 commented 5 years ago

All of my ideas in one comment plus a couple more -iron ore (brick enchantment, allows soldier to spin and deal damage with iron spikes with no movement, but prevents soldiers form picking up or using other items.) -gold ore (makes user attack the lowest HP enemy. If given a glistering melon, it will heal lowest HP teammate instead. Also attacks allies, but doesn't heal them. Glass and glass pane increase effect.) -shears (act as scissors, allows user to break 1 wool block, or cause an opponent to bleed. bleeding prevents soldier from regenerating health. 1 use.) -beetroot seeds (2 uses, allows user to drop a lure for enemies to follow. If a soldier has glass or glass pane, they will be immune to the bait.) -melon seeds (same as above, but acts as snare and restores some of the users HP while damaging the victim. Victim trapped for 5 seconds. 1 use only.) -Battle block (when placed, soldiers will try to come to it. Useful for starting battles with stubborn soldiers.) -Clay coins (when given to a soldier, for 30 seconds, opponents near the soldier will fear the soldier.) -EXP (soldiers get exp by killing opponents, and the more exp a soldier has, the more likely teammates are to assist them.) -Item frame soldiers (allows soldiers to use clay on soldiers hung up on item frames to bring them to life. Only revive their own color.) -flags (soldiers linked to that flag will guard it, while all others besides allies will try to take it -ghosts (Soldiers given this upgrade will summon a ghost upon death, and target the soldier who killed them. They would have low damage an hp, have no upgrades, and be unable to pick up upgrades. If they managed to "get revenge" they would be revived at 20% HP and no upgrades) -Clay wall (When destroyed by a disruptor, all clay walls placed within a certain range will be destroyed) -retreat point (soldiers would return to this spot when below 20% HP if the retreat point is linked to that team) -stone (soldiers detect and target nearby chests) -cocoa beans(allows soldier to steal an upgrade from another, 1 use) -blueprints (creative item, creates a fort instantly for a team of your choice) -wooden slab (soldier turns into a catapult, and launches soldiers into the air. Airborne soldiers will die without feather) -stone slab (soldier turns into a missile, and launches themselves at an enemy. deals heavy damage, but will instantly kill user. string has no effect) -TNT (creates radiation around the soldier, damaging all enemies that enter the radius. User health is cut in half, and the user is unable to mount or use weapons. use with gunpowder and string to increase the effect.) -hay bale (limited uses, a soldier can use it to create a decoy) -Beam Rod (Player item, allows for battling with soldiers. can be bound to a team, so you dont harm that team. left click for normal melee attack, right click for ranged attack. ranged attack costs one clay per use.) -rat mount (small and fast, with low hp. able to go through slab blocks. Will deal no damage, and will instead attempt to flee from combat. if engaged in combat, mount will abandon owner and run.) -Hawk (spawnable creature who targets and attacks mounts/companions. Can be tamed with pumpkin seeds.) -ink sac (creates trap. any soldier who falls into it (doesnt matter which team) would be temporarily blinded) -clay statistics display edit (would now be able to see how many kills each team has) -nexus control point (when activated, teams would try to take over the "control point" and take it as their own.) -book (prevents soldier from moving, but allows healing spells and damage spells from that soldier. spells require time to charge. some AOE spells, that would take longer to charge.) -enchanted book (would allow soldier to temporarily stun nearby enemies. 1 use) -minecart (when dropped, a soldier will pick up, and build a shelter. shelter would have hp, and would slightly protect against enemies.) -glistering melon edit (if the above is approved, when a weak soldier uses an iron nugget, glistering melon users will try to bring the soldier to the shelter.) -wildlife (if wildlife is nearby in a battle, soldiers will try to kill them for food, to give health. not so sure about this one)

That's about everything i have in mind. hope the update gets finished soon!

BeepBoopBeepMaggot commented 5 years ago

So i have an idea ( I originally posted it on Reddit but some people told me to post it here instead)

Each role will be given with an item for instance, farmers will be given a hoe for their role they would go around planting wheat for others.

-Turrets maybe for defence

Sorry if anyone else suggested some of these i didn't mean to copy i just wanted to post some ideas i think would be cool!

Also does anyone know where i can get some new versions of the modpack? (I use Technic and other things like that)

BobRossss commented 5 years ago

Galacticraft support addon: Throwing down the galacticraft items that you need to wear to go to a planet down on the grown for soldiers would give them the gear so they won't die.

305pence commented 5 years ago

I think nether quartz should also stun solders for like a second after use as well as push them back further, because the way it is right now the tiny shock wave is rather useless, unless it's held by an iron core soldier on a very high up 1 block wide bridge. Even then the soldiers will get knocked off before the quartz activates.

Ironshadow123 commented 5 years ago

What if we had an item that made it so when the user is at low HP, it activates, causing the user to be unable to move, but it acts as a better healing.

Ironshadow123 commented 5 years ago

I kind of want something like a soldier enchantment, to give soldiers special boosts when they spawn, maybe for a limited time. Could be things like high jump, extra damage, extra defense, etc. You would have to enchant a soldier in an anvil or an enchanting table.

BlindTheBoundDemon commented 5 years ago

First of all, I want you, San, to think at least twice about some of my ideas. I know you have probably plans about some of them, some other are endgame, but I think you will like all of it: -Bedrock - Soldier turns into a statue, making him immobile but also unkillable (mostly as a creative mode feature, as you cant gain bedrock in survival. Might be fun to use though) -Sand - reduces fall damage (unlike feather it does not grant slowfall but reduces the dmg) -Cobweb - could be an infinite source of string -Obsidian - Reduces any damage taken down to 1. Gives a massive speed penalty -Torch - Soldier will produce light of power 8 -Redstone Torch - Increases power of status effects inflicted by soldier. -Ice - Soldier gains a Frost Walker effect (but with 1 Block radius, unlike Frost Walker enchantment that starts with more) -Soulsand - Kills heal. -Vines - Soldier will gain a spider climb. -Flower Pot -Gives a helmet that reduces melee damage. -Hay Bale - Could be an infinite source of Wheat. -End Rod - A weapon with long reach -Scute - A scale armor for a clay soldier. Even better than upgraded Leather -Kelp - Could increase swimming speed. -Pufferfish - Soldier will poison attackers when hurt (like nether brick makes him ignite them) -Ink Sac - Redstone but as a ranged weapon -Cocoa Beans - A ranged variation of Glistering Melon -Lapis Lazuli - A ranged weapon with homing projectiles (could work similar to shulker bullets) -Bone Meal - Increases power and knockback of fist attacks. -Eye of Ender - Allows to teleport to other places. -Golden Carrot - Could grant status immunity (poison, blind, slow etc) -Lead - Somewhat a fishing rod or a grappling hook -End Crystal - Soldier turns into a healing beacon (pasively heals all nearby soldiers of same team) -Shulker Shell - gives a better helmet (than flower pot)/grants total immunity to projectiles -Iron Nugget - soldier turns into a buffer, increasing all stats of nearby soldiers (also gives a small silver crown :) -Phantom Membrane - grants free flight (without pegasi) -Bamboo - blowgun. Essentially a red mush but ranged. -Clay block - infinite clay -(nether) Brick block - infinite (nether) bricks -Mushroom Block - infinite mushrooms of respective type -Quartz Block - infinite quartz -Prismarine block - infinite prismarine shards -Sea Lantern - infinite prismarine crystals -Carpet - a one time use wool -Magma block - infinite magma cream (you craft magma blocks from magma cream, not from fire charges lmao ) -Nether wart block - infinite warts -Bone block - infinite bone meal -Lapis block - stronger lapis lazuli/infinite lapis Pumpkin/melon/Beetroot seeds - should work similar to wheat seeds -Nautilus shell - very heavy armor that is even better than scute but decreases speed a lot -Heart of the sea - soldier gains a buff to swimming speed, moving speed and damage. -Dragon breath - soldier turns into a flamethrower -pressure plates - maybe like buttons but for armor? -dyes - could work like some versions back, attracting soldiers of the same color -Wither rose - like red Mushroom but with wither effect. -gold Block - upgrade of the bone or sth like that. -cake - placed on ground, can be eaten by soldiers. -food like spider eye, golden apples, chorus fruit could apply their effects, when eaten -cooked Food should heal more or have more uses than raw -Spectral arrow - weapon of same power as regular arrow but marks enemies so other teammates concentrate on marked enemy -Tipped arrows would inflict their effects on attacked enemies. -shears should instantly give both shear blades -bottle of exp - (no idea but should be as a sort of upgrade :P)

BlindTheBoundDemon commented 5 years ago

@sylveon666 Kelp works identically as Lily Pad, Prismarine Shard is in mod as Shear Blade upgrade. Also half of your ideas look like copy of mine but whatever :/

sylveon666 commented 5 years ago

more lunatic ideas: Arrow-no longer acts as an upgraded stick. instead used as a 1 time ranged weapon, dealing 10 damage Beetroot-1 time use. cleanses all potion effects on the soldier if soldier hits below 50% HP Sweet Berries-1 time use. when soldier drops below 50% hp it gains temporary speed Totem of Undying-if soldier is killed while holding a totem, it goes berserk, regenerating back to full health but it rapidly decays. upon being revived, soldier loses all it's upgrades, gains a speed boost, and it's attacks do 4 damage and heal for the amount bring back the Clay Cookie- Clay Cookie requires Gold Nugget upgrade to be used. allows it to summon soldiers of same color. 4 uses. Banners- soldiers who are holding a banner of the same color as them grants nearby allied soldiers buffs Golden Carrot- allows soldier to buff allies with speed and strength, but disables it's ability to attack. 10 uses. Soul Sand- ranged weapon. enemies hit are dealt 1 damage and are cursed. gaining a Weakness potion effect. 20 uses Name Tag-maybe this should be the item used to form alliances, if Name Tags have a name, all soldiers that are named the same will not attack each other regardless of color.