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Rescaled planets and moons displaying a ghosted surface #77

Open TykoTek opened 6 years ago

TykoTek commented 6 years ago

I'm using Rescale 2.5x and GPP. When in orbit above planets and moons I'm seeing a "ghosted" image of a second terrain surface. On some bodies the height between the visible surface and the ghost images are more pronounced than others, but it's happening to all of them. The effect almost looks like a cloud layer but the clouds are in the shape of mountains. Of note, it looks like the ghost texture isn't aligned with the underlying hard surface - you may see a ghost mountain above a flat plain.

Hard to capture on screen shot, but here are a few examples: Note the lighter band of grey on the right edge where the light is shining through the ghost terrain: screenshot3

Here's another - note the lighter color that looks like an atmosphere, but it's terrain shapes screenshot8

I'm using:

Thanks

Sigma88 commented 6 years ago

have you tried deleting the cache folder? sometimes there might be problems with cache generation

since you say you have tried different versions of SD I assume this is not the problem, but you never know...

just delete the whole folder you can find here:

KSP/GameData/Sigma/Dimensions/Cache/

TykoTek commented 6 years ago

That didn't fix it. I've tried creating an entirely new game install with just GPP, supporting mods and Rescale/SD and it still happens.

Is there any info I can provide to help trouble shoot this?

Sigma88 commented 6 years ago

can you try reproduce the issue on a stock system + SD?

if it happens only with GPP that might be an interesting point

TykoTek commented 5 years ago

It's not occurring in Stock. As soon as I install GPP I'm seeing it. This was a brand new bare bones install. Only basic dependencies.

EDIT: Interesting...the bug isn't visible in the 3.2x version of rescale. I'm playing in 2.5x. Tried installing 3.2x just to have more info and...no ghost terrain

Does that mean something? :)

Sigma88 commented 5 years ago

hmmm I don't know, I will check it out

could you send me the settings you use to get 2.5x?

TykoTek commented 5 years ago

I'm using Galileo's ReScale 2.5x and 3.2x no changes to his default settings.

https://github.com/Galileo88/Rescale

Sigma88 commented 5 years ago

and you are not using scatterer, right?

TykoTek commented 5 years ago

Correct. I was not using scatterer in the clean test install. it was a brand new install with only these folders in GameData: GPP, Kopernicus, ModularFlightIntegrator, Rescale, SD, Squad, Squad expansion + Module Manager

TykoTek commented 5 years ago

Thanks for your help on this.. I just confirmed that the same issue is still present in 1.5.

Is there anything else I can provide you to help you troubleshoot?

Sigma88 commented 5 years ago

I have enough for now to try and reproduce/fix the issue. I haven't had much time lately but I should get some in the near future.

you could try using other planet packs to see if the same issue occurs, for example you could try OPM which is made by galileo (same as OPM)

the interesting part of GPP is that it keeps the stock planets so you can see if all planets are affected or only those added by the pack

Sigma88 commented 5 years ago

wait, is this your issue?

https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/163965-131-rescale-comprehensive-sd-configs-1028-03-dec-2017/&do=findComment&comment=3469445

if the problem is visible only at certain altitudes it's probably the change from scaledspace to pqs

I don't know if there are solutions to that, I'll have to look if I can do something, but it might not be a SD issue

TykoTek commented 5 years ago

Yea, that's my issue. It only occurs in a middle altitude band. below 25km and you don't see the problem.

Here's my GameData folder. it's a clean install image

Sigma88 commented 5 years ago

hmm you have EVE? try removing that

maybe it's something to do with that

(EnvironmentalVisualEnhancement)

TykoTek commented 5 years ago

LOL...you know, great minds think alike. Right after I posted I realized I could remove that too. I didn't have time to play around with it before work. I'll try it tonight.

TykoTek commented 5 years ago

Nope, removing EVE didn't change it

Sigma88 commented 5 years ago

can you try with the new version?

TykoTek commented 5 years ago

Happy to help!

What environment should I be using? My previous tests were using ReScale, but I didn't think that would work with new Kopernicus.

Should I test this with ReScale & Kopernicus 1.7.0 or do I need to wait until ReScale is updated and test on 1.7.1?

TJ

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Sigma88 commented 5 years ago

rescale should work fine, with KSP 1.7.1, Kopernicus 1.7.1-4 and SigmaDimensions v0.10.3

TykoTek commented 5 years ago

just tested. It appears to occur over a narrower altitude range than before. That's great. In the attached video you can still see it when the craft is around 80km above the surface

https://youtu.be/_ym1meoEqGc

Sigma88 commented 5 years ago

I think this effect is caused by the fading in-out of the PQS-ScaledSpace

maybe @Galileo88 can take a look to see if the cfgs of that body can be changed to reduce this effect

but it might just be a limitation of KSP itself