Open AngledLuffa opened 10 months ago
Thoughts on this? I'd like to switch it to the double letter versions
Yeah definitely not "appal". I guess it should be a VERB, with lemma "appall".
That's not the only time there's I was [a-z]+ed
with ADJ/JJ
as the tag
# sent_id = newsgroup-groups.google.com_INTPunderground_b2c62e87877e4a22_ENG_20050906_165900-0048
# text = ... I was shocked at the lack of racial diversity.
30 shocked shocked ADJ JJ Degree=Pos 0 root 0:root _
# sent_id = reviews-126171-0003
# text = ... but I was disappointed with their customer service.
16 disappointed disappointed ADJ JJ Degree=Pos 4 conj 4:conj:but _
# sent_id = reviews-360937-0002
# text = I must say, I was impressed with the size ...
7 impressed impressed ADJ JJ Degree=Pos 3 ccomp 3:ccomp _
# sent_id = email-enronsent12_01-0069
# text = I didn't feel guilty about the garage sale, that's why I was annoyed - being notified at 10:00 at night GRRRRRRR.
16 annoyed annoyed ADJ JJ Degree=Pos 13 advcl:relcl 13:advcl:relcl _
# sent_id = email-enronsent37_01-0105
# text = And I was relieved when Nicki called to let me know she was home safe.
4 relieved relieved ADJ JJ Degree=Pos 0 root 0:root _
# sent_id = newsgroup-groups.google.com_herpesnation_c74170a0fcfdc880_ENG_20051125_075200-0011
# text = ... before I was finished being a teenager.
35 finished finished ADJ JJ Degree=Pos 28 advcl 28:advcl:before _
although not consistently so:
# sent_id = weblog-blogspot.com_rigorousintuition_20060511134300_ENG_20060511_134300-0249
# text = I was amazed at the spiel they delivered.
3 amazed amaze VERB VBN Tense=Past|VerbForm=Part|Voice=Pass 0 root 0:root _
It looks like usually a state of mind is tagged as ADJ
here
Deciding VERB (past participle) vs. ADJ is very nuanced. I defer to @amir-zeldes when it comes up. (One test for ADJ is un- negation, which works for some of these. Another is very modification. I'm not sure there's a good reason that shocked should be ADJ but amazed should be VERB.)
It is indeed very tricky, since the original PTB guidelines are internally inconsistent/offer contradictory tests without a ranking. I do rely on PTB/ON precendents in doubtful cases, but my basic methodology and hopefully the one you find in practice in the GU corpora is articulated here, and I'll repeat it for convenience - the priorities of importance we have noticed in prior corpora and what we enforce is, in order:
In OntoNotes, it seems "impressed" is about 50-50 when not used in a perfect construction/as a finite verb, and tagged VBN whenever "by" appears (criterion 2), otherwise JJ. Criterion 4 would justify this behavior IMO, but we have 3. ranked higher, which is why it is always VBN in GUM in this function. Personally I would opt for VBN here, it seems pretty transparent to me.
ON has both tags for lowercased "united", though JJ is the majority tag. For the criteria in the link, the relative paraphrase decides it for VBN ("united people" can be "people who are united by ...")
_Originally posted by @amir-zeldes in https://github.com/UniversalDependencies/UD_English-GUM/issues/78#issuecomment-1847631652_
If test 3 permits adding a copula, then "united states" => "states that are united" clearly passes, but so would canonical stative adjectives ("tall people" => "people who are tall"). So I'm not sure how that would favor the verb analysis.
If it doesn't permit adding a copula, then "states that united" is not quite the same meaning, though it is related by the inchoative alternation.
but so would canonical stative adjectives
Yes, this is true, but it's more consistent with VBG (uniting factors -> factors which unite), which can always be construed that way, and I don't see why active participles get to stay verbs in this use when passives don't. For me the question is mainly one of the lexeme (lemma), and note that not all participle-like forms pass this test, for example "missing documents" are not "documents which miss".
Well there's a semantic difference—"uniting" is dynamic, "united" is stative. Paraphrasing as a finite verb would usually favor the dynamic reading except with verbs that are inherently stative like "exist".
Hi, @nschneid ! Couldn't this also be understood as partially aspect. I'm thinking of the -ing participle vs the -ed participle. So, the -ing participle is imperfect and -ed perfect. How does the word "unite" fit into this, you ask? Well, maybe, "united" is simply the perfect aspect, such that ongoing is dynamic when completed, the result, is stative. I would see both -ing and -ed participles as possibly verb-based.
Well there's a semantic difference—"uniting" is dynamic, "united" is stative. Paraphrasing as a finite verb would usually favor the dynamic reading except with verbs that are inherently stative like "exist".
Right, but even for "existing" if I search for DT followed by it, I get 36:3 VBG... So it seems at least for active participles, PTB recognizes the deverbal nature regardless of lexical stativeness
I'm willing to change EWT's treatment of "united" to VERB/VBG per GUM policies. But there are likely other lexical items in EWT that are not consistent with GUM.
OK thanks - I wouldn't be surprised if there are also internal inconsistencies within GUM and EWT, it's probably a longer term to do but worth looking at at some point.
vs
Should this be
appal
instead ofappall
, anyway? Similar question forenrol
, I suppose. It doesn't look right to my American sensibilities.