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"give s.b. a hand/leg up" idiom #531

Closed nschneid closed 1 month ago

nschneid commented 1 month ago

What is the attachment of "up"?

It feels resultative. "A leg up was given..." sounds OK though.

nschneid commented 1 month ago

"the way in"

"the road home"

advmod???

nschneid commented 1 month ago

@amir-zeldes thoughts?

amir-zeldes commented 1 month ago

I'd say in "give s.b. a leg up", up/xcomp. I you literally have "a leg up was given", then I guess advmod is more appropriate, since then the syntax suggests it's adnominal. But in normal usage, I would expect the literal tree, where 'up' is a secondary prediction (the figurative leg is now up).

The way in and road home should both be advmod IMO, since we're in adnominal territory again.

nschneid commented 1 month ago

I'd say in "give s.b. a leg up", up/xcomp.

But: *A leg was given up (to s.b.). If it were xcomp I think we'd expect that to work.

Can you think of a clear example of a double object plus xcomp resultative? I don't see any results with that configuration.

amir-zeldes commented 1 month ago

But: *A leg was given up (to s.b.). If it were xcomp I think we'd expect that to work.

Not all idioms are passivizable (e.g. bucket was kicked by John)

Can you think of a clear example of a double object plus xcomp resultative?

No, I can't TBH. If you prefer adnominal advmod for "give someone a leg up" I don't think it's terrible either, it's such a niche fixed expression anyway, there's no really satisfying way I can see to analyze it compositionally.

nschneid commented 1 month ago

Yeah my intuition is that "a leg up" is pretty institutionalized at this point so we might as well call it advmod.