Precision Critical should apply when you have Vital Strike (Mystic)?

[1onepower]

Describe the bug Vital Strike (Mystic): You can strike your foes with incredible force. Benefit: Whenever you use Vital Strike, Improved Vital Strike, or Greater Vital Strike to multiply the number of dice you roll for damage, you also multiply your Strength bonus, weapon's enhancement bonus and other bonuses that would normally be multiplied on a critical hit by the same number. Extra damage from sources that wouldn't normally be multiplied on a critical hit isn't multiplied by this feat.

It shouldn't apply on SA since SA wouldn't normally be multiplied on a critical hit, but it should be multiplied when you have precision critical.

[Vek17]

Vital strike does not deal precision damage so it logically would not benefit from precision critical. Precision is a specific classification that a lot of things are immune or resistant to and making vital strike precision would be a fairly notable net nerf.

[Velgus]

For note, the Rowdy Rogue is built around this idea. I'm not sure if the existing implementation would multiply Rowdy Rogue's Vital Force damage on a crit, but if not, that is a valid place that Vital Strike (Mythic) should apply.

[Vek17]

Precision critical already applies to Rowdy vital force damage, just not vital strike in general.

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For note, the Rowdy Rogue is built around this idea. I'm not sure if the existing implementation would multiply Rowdy Rogue's Vital Force damage on a crit, but if not, that is a valid place that Vital Strike (Mythic) should apply.

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[FrijDom]

I've reread it, and I think I see what their problem is. They're expecting Sneak Attack to be multiplied by Vital Strike, assuming you have Precision Critical. This is because with precision critical, Sneak Attack is now being multiplied on a crit. Vital Strike is supposed to multiply any damage that would be multiplied on a crit. So, for example:

Vital Strike Sneak Attack without Precision Critical: 4d6+12+1d6 Vital Strike Sneak Attack with Precision Critical: 4d6+12+2d6 Vital Strike Sneak Attack Crit with Precision Critical: 6d6+18+3d6

I'd like to point out, though, that this is not how Precision Critical works. Precision Critical simply doubles any precision damage dealt on a critical hit. It is not multiplied in the same way weapon damage is.