Haunting

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Ts: One huge weakness of the classic werewolves/mafia type games is perma death, making it so that some players will not get to play for a significant amount of the game. Any suggestions to resolve/alleviate this are welcome in this thread, but I want to bring up one that was actually done in this game in the (distant) past: Way back in S1-S2 it was possible for the dead players to "haunt" tavern during the night, making is to some whispers would reach that channel. IIRC this was done by generating a randomize list of words and having the dead players vote on this. This was horrible in every way. Is there anything we could do to bring back haunting in some way? I'm absolutely not sure how it could be executed in a better way or if that is even possible, but if there was an idea it could possibly be tied to an otherwise powerless TM role. Anyone have any opinions/suggestions or completely different ideas for involving dead players more?

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Captain Luffy: they should probably be able to affect the game in a way other than information

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Captain Luffy: otherwise its basically pointless for wolves

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Captain Luffy: or even pointless to lynch wolves

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Ts: For that we have: • Ghostly modifier • Idea (5) • Idea (6), maybe • Idea (7)

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Opinions on idea (1)? Should the ability for ghosts to whisper even be tied to a living role or should it just be a general mechanic

probably best to have it be a general mechanic I think

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Captain Luffy: election role makes sense. maybe something that alters living players votes

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Captain Luffy: i mean voting power

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!Phantomtomic: Election role for ghosts?

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Captain Luffy: yeah

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!Phantomtomic: That's interesting

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Ts: I think the role blocking suggestion could be usable

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Ts: but I guess not as the first elected role... so we'd need several 🙂

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Captain Luffy: role blocking but on other ghost players

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Ts: oh on ghost players

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Ts: I thought on living players

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!Phantomtomic: I thought ghosts can't use abilities <:thonk:688530547857031236>

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Ts: like haunting them

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Captain Luffy: some can

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Captain Luffy: probably need some ghost abilities

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Captain Luffy: i mean powers that work while ur a ghost

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Ts: We have the ghost killer wolf and ghostly modifier

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Captain Luffy: is ghostly modifier the spiritualist role

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!Phantomtomic: Ghost killer wolf sounds interesting

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Ts: • "Ghostly" modifier. Players with this modifiers can only use their role abilities after dying.

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Captain Luffy: oh thats cool

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!Phantomtomic: Wouldn't that makes them completely suicidal

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Ts: Adding a bunch of roles to have their be ghost abilities seems excessive to a modifier seems better

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Captain Luffy: can we have 2 versions of that modifier

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Wouldn't that makes them completely suicidal

they'll still be dead

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Captain Luffy: one where its both alive and ghost

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Ts: sure

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Captain Luffy: and one where its only ghost

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Ts: yea makes sense

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Ts: added it

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Ts: I think for the sending whispers mechanics this should be done through gms and the whisper should only carry the meaning of the whisper not the exact phrasing to make it so it's not trivial to figure out who sent it

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Captain Luffy: also maybe reaper should be changed for this kind of thing. to do something related to the mechanics

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Ts: probably not

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Captain Luffy: or maybe nt changed but, some extra power

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Captain Luffy: ghost mode solo

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Ts: Not necessary for a first test

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Ts: If people like it we can figure out if it should be a re-occuring thing

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Captain Luffy: like people killed by reaper dont become ghosts, they just die

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Ts: makes sense

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Ts: we can do that much

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Captain Luffy: yeah fair enough, not a v1 thing

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Captain Luffy: but something for a later potentially

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Ts: Probably Reaper would be a fitting solo to use for the first game

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Ts: so I guess its worth considering it

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Captain Luffy: or maybe as a ghost, reaper can still use its powers

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Captain Luffy: as if it was alive