The Twins

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huckhuck55: The Twins start on opposite alignments, (town and wolves) (or could both start UA) Their goal is to have their twin die.

Evil twin (packless) If the evil twin manages to get the good twin killed, the evil twin will acquire new abilities. (tbd)

Good twin if the good twin manages to get the evil twin killed, the good twin will acquire new abilities (tbd)

the twins both know each other and start in a private chat.

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The8thSoul: e

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huckhuck55: if it was a UA team, killing the evil would add the good to town aligned, and if killing the good twin, the evil twin would be added to the wolves team

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huckhuck55: but UA is less likely imo

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huckhuck55: also, the new abilities could vary if that was something hosts would want to do, thus making the death of the opposite team different each game.

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Ts: ooh this reminds me of Jack Robinson and Robin Jackson! 🙂

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huckhuck55: does this role already exist (or has existed?)

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!Phantomtomic: Oh this is like robin jackson and jack robinson

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Ts: this is RJ/JR

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Ts: they were both town roles with basically the same description except for the names being switched

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Ts: We removed it because it was weird (townie wanting another townie dead)

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huckhuck55: so making them opposite alignment off the bat might help it?

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Ts: yea

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huckhuck55: BotC has a role similar too, but ive tweaked it quite a bit to make it more suited to thi game. therefor, we can change the name to completely remove it from BotC

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The8thSoul: Suggestions for abilities Evil abilities:

• Disguise players [Tanner]
• Investigate and send role of players [Clairvoyant Fox]
• Mark players. If a marked player is killed, the wolves gain an extra kill the following night. May only have one player marked.

Good abilities:

• Investigate players. [Fortune/Aura Teller]
• Kill once. [1-use Assassin]
• Activate an ability that will cancel the lynch if a Townsfolk were to be lynched. Immediate ability. Announced if a Townsfolk were about to be lynched. Wasted if a non-townsfolk is lynched. If there are multiple lynches, will only cancel one (the first lynch poll). [Royal Knight but more powerful]

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huckhuck55: but, in BotC, it is a very interesting role to have in a game.

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!Phantomtomic: Having new abilities for killing the other feels a bit weird, both being ua makes sense but idrk

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huckhuck55: i think, whatever role they acquire should be pretty strong, since they accomplished their goal. there in by making the wrong decision quite detrimental to the opposite team.

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huckhuck55: yeah, if they were both UA, then killing one of them would add a number to a team. i was just unsure what alignment would work best with the twins

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The8thSoul: So... in a way this role will become Angel but two player?

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The8thSoul: "Double Headhunters"?

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huckhuck55: not quite angel. cuz angel themselves WANT to die but in this scenario, they want to see their twin killed

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huckhuck55: thus both gunning for eachother right off the bat

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huckhuck55: i also think that.... might be worth wild to have them both simply appear as twin to any checks.

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!Phantomtomic: Yeah but they can also sometimes get their goal with luck

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huckhuck55: thats true, luck is apart of it... but i think the luck bit is a smaller percentage than other roles.

since (if town and wolf aligned) both town and wolves will want to kill the right one, they may not gamble on it right away. nor will solo want to help town or wolves in the matter.

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!Phantomtomic: Wolfpack could easily accidentally kill any of the two

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huckhuck55: i feel like one of them would come out fairly quickly claiming good twin. cuz they will want their new abilities as quickly as possible

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!Phantomtomic: And town generally has more info than wolves to find packless

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huckhuck55: but also, with the roles. they would not appear as "evil twin/ good twin" they would only appear as twin. the only way to know which side their on is by doing an alignment check. (imo)

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huckhuck55: therefor mostly only leaving it up to social reads to figure out whos who

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!Phantomtomic: You didn’t mention the disguise part <:thonk:688530547857031236>

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huckhuck55: so in that case, aura teller would be the only one that could find them

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!Phantomtomic: Is it strong or weak

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!Phantomtomic: I’m assuming strong

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huckhuck55: its not a disguise. or if it is, its strong ig.

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huckhuck55: they would be twins with goals that are town or wolfish aligned

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!Phantomtomic: Not a disguise???

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!Phantomtomic: Huh???

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huckhuck55: like. twin would be the role name but there would be a twin in the wolf role list and in the town role list.

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!Phantomtomic: …

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huckhuck55: but evil twin is just how im describing them

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!Phantomtomic: So what’s the base alignment of twin

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!Phantomtomic: Unless you do two roles called twin…?

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huckhuck55: yes

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!Phantomtomic: At that rate might as well strongly disguise them

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!Phantomtomic: Two same named roles can get really confusing

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huckhuck55: oh.... thats problematic for pulling up info i guess 🤔

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huckhuck55: well in that case. maybe the evil twin is strongly disguised as good twin

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huckhuck55: and good twin doesnt have a disguise

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huckhuck55: also, if we want to change the name from "twins" could be doppleganger or lookalike.... or something like that.