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mctsts: i think it would make sense to allow these cases of alliance: • a win is not achievable, but the entire team could join another alignment • a win is not achievable, nor is killing further enemies, but the remaining team could join another alignment

Both of these are basically just going for the best rating for everyone in the team, which is supposed to be how you should play

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mctsts: i mean based on the fact that I was 1p, I was in fact also only 1 unconverted person

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captainluffy: What game was this, I don't remember

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mctsts: s2g8

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captainluffy: But basically, what I don't like is a full team of like 4 or 5 people

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captainluffy: Doing this

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mctsts: what do you think they should do instead then?

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captainluffy: If vamp has voting majority by then, sure. But if they don't then it's still possible to win

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mctsts: my suggestion has "its impossible to win" as a requirement

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captainluffy: In this specific game I don't think it was impossible yet

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mctsts: then I suppose alliance in this game would not have been allowed under my suggestion

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mctsts: i did not verify if this game falls under my terms, nor did I write them to cover this game

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captainluffy: If Ur suggestion doesn't include stuff like that then

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captainluffy: Yeah it's fine with me

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mctsts: I have two cases: • The entire team is still alive, but cannot win. However they can all change to a different alignment and win that way. • Neither winning, nor killing enemies is possible, but all remaining players of the team can change to a different alignment and win that way.

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mctsts:

• requiring Host permissions

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captainluffy: As long as they don't switch while it's still winnable

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captainluffy: Then it's no issue ig

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captainluffy: Or rather, while vamp team can still lose

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mctsts: if there's a team that has no hopes of winning they have three options from what I can tell

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mctsts: • kingmake • go inactive • betray their alignment to win

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captainluffy: I mean if there's 3 teams left. Let's say town vamp and wolf. Town with wolf can outvote vamp still. Then wolf should be able to win still

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mctsts: if wolves can work with town to beat vamps, but then themselves can beat town afterwards, they can win

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captainluffy: Yeah, in this game I believe that was possible but they worked with vamp anyways

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mctsts: i told the hosts, I consider alliance to be valid if a team cannot win

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captainluffy: Those situations is what I'd not like to exist

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mctsts: i didnt watch the game closely enough to judge if this was the case or not

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e_thsn: wolves couldn't win imo since everyone was demonised when they allianced

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captainluffy: Yeah but they could win through lynch

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e_thsn: they didn't have enough votes

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captainluffy: Or kill vamps which can't be demonized

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e_thsn:

Or kill vamps which can't be demonized

they didn't know every vamp

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captainluffy: They could figure it out if they tried

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e_thsn: wolves had lost if they tried to go against vamps

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e_thsn: that's why they had to ally

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captainluffy: Anyways yeah that's my argument

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shapechange:

If vamp has voting majority by then, sure. But if they don't then it's still possible to win

the thing was we did actually have voting majority

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captainluffy: At a certain point yes, but not the entire time

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shapechange: well yeah

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shapechange: nobody has voting majority the entire time

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captainluffy: I mean after Fed was lynched was the time to turn against vamps

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shapechange: but they couldnt have

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shapechange: they only knew one undead team member

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shapechange: listen, the points of the game aren't important

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captainluffy: Town knew them all. But yeah I don't really wanna argue this

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shapechange: realistically, this is an exceptionally rare occurrence, and one that generally weakly improves the game for all teams when it's applied

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shapechange:

Town knew them all. But yeah I don't really wanna argue this

(also not true, but okay)

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shapechange: it's like a QOL update really

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☠ Nick ☠: Bro this is a Grinch copy

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shapechange: what

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shapechange: this is not even a role