Buff Firebug

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mctsts: Possible suggestion: • Firebug can only ward • Warding doesn't protect

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mctsts: Alternative suggestion: • Warding is persistent in some way

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e_thsn:

• if warding activates main channel pyromancer team members are protected the next night?

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mctsts: that seems a bit random

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e_thsn: the point was that they could use warding to protect themselves or their pyro buddies

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e_thsn: but

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e_thsn: it's like a 2/18 chance they get attacked

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e_thsn: less if they play safe

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mctsts: warding to protect pyro team itself seems useless currently

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e_thsn: yeah

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shapechange: quite frankly i also think pyromancer needs to be scaling powders rather than always one powder

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shapechange: like flute is

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shapechange: i think that contributes to us not using it as much

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mctsts: for pyro we usually put more powderers

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mctsts: for flute we dont put more enchanters

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shapechange: it means that pyros require more space in a rolelist basically

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mctsts: but it also means you can slow them down without hitting exactly the one pyro

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mctsts: which imo is good for pyro as it kills instead of inflicting

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shapechange: i agree, but i'm just illustrating why it's probably less used

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shapechange: basically: if we want to keep firebug around, i think pyro needs scaling. if we keep pyro as non-scaling, i don't think we should keep firebug

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mctsts:

i agree, but i'm just illustrating why it's probably less used

I mean is it

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e_thsn: pyro can easily have enough people powdered if they powder wisely and not powdering people who are active in public

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mctsts:

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shapechange: in recent games? i would say yes

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shapechange:

pyro can easily have enough people powdered if they powder wisely and not powdering people who are active in public

this really isn't true

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e_thsn: maybe we're just using flute and hell too much

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mctsts: it had 3 usages in S9, which is as many as Flute and Hell

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mctsts: as many as Hell and 1 more than Flute

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shapechange:

basically: if we want to keep firebug around, i think pyro needs scaling. if we keep pyro as non-scaling, i don't think we should keep firebug

i still stand by this response

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e_thsn: pyromancer

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shapechange: thank you ethan

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e_thsn: I was searching

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e_thsn: typed in wrong box

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mctsts:

basically: if we want to keep firebug around, i think pyro needs scaling. if we keep pyro as non-scaling, i don't think we should keep firebug

I disagree - an option could be to have warding also powder for example

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shapechange: that was what i suggested a while ago

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shapechange: i assumed it got rejected, since it wasn't implemented

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shapechange: i will also say i don't think there's a need for firebug rn

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mctsts: Don't remember that suggestion

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mctsts: Well I like the Firebug branding

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mctsts: <:Firebug:1035182107196137482>

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mctsts: look

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mctsts: its a firebug

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e_thsn: Ts' argument for keeping roles "it looks cool"

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mctsts: Yeah

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e_thsn: We need a list of Ts' roles to keep cause they look cool

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mctsts: I mean that's most roles

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e_thsn: you deleted bard without hesitation

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e_thsn: <:Bard:990392492081958992>

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mctsts: There was hesistation

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e_thsn: Maybe it was just everyone else that had no hesitation