New TK suggestion

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e_thsn: 3 feels like a lot for smaller 10-15 player games but also too little for 30 player games is my issue with fixed

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captainluffy: 3 is what assassin has and its fixed

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e_thsn: Yeah and we hardly use assassin in smaller games and sometimes have to use it with another strong TK in large games

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mctsts: Apothecary | Townsfolk Killing Basics: Each night, the Apothecary may poison a player, killing them at the end of the next night. Alternatively, they may cure the player they last poisoned. Details: The Apothecary starts the game with three flasks of poison and a single antidote. When the Apothecary poisons a player, that player will be killed at the end of the next night (this is not an attack). This will only happen if the Apothecary survives until the end of that night. Instead of poisoning a player, the Apothecary may also use their antidote to cure the player they have previously poisoned, saving them from death. Both actions are immediate abilities.

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e_thsn: Btw I'll champion since I think my only one is RW

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captainluffy: oh that makes it more interesting

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captainluffy: its a kill so it passes protection

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e_thsn: It's always been like that

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captainluffy: it didnt register to me

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mctsts: Vera is proven right

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e_thsn: Lmao

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captainluffy: true lol

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e_thsn: Interesting that it can't cure and poison

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e_thsn: Same night

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mctsts: That'd be pretty strong

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e_thsn: Cause initially cure was a day and night action

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e_thsn: Yeah

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e_thsn: I like it this way

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e_thsn: Plus I guess we don't need to limit it's uses

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mctsts: I find that unnecessary (cure as separate action) - this way it can fix its mistake but it will cost a kill

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mctsts: also tbh I missed that cure was a day action

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e_thsn: Lol

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captainluffy: oh well, we can figure out some specifics like that after testing

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e_thsn: It was more a just in case the player sleeps most of the night phase

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captainluffy: does this have a pr? if not, i can make it

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mctsts:

does this have a pr? if not, i can make it

cant see one

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captainluffy: ok ill make one

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captainluffy: the role might need some testing for

• to get the right number of poisons/antidotes
• if it would be better if antidotes dont replace a poison action,
  • or if antidotes are too useless to require their existence.

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captainluffy: https://github.com/McTsts/Werewolves-Roles/pull/1226

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e_thsn:

the role might need some testing for

• to get the right number of poisons/antidotes
• if it would be better if antidotes dont replace a poison action,
  • or if antidotes are too useless to require their existence.

having 2 actions will be way too strong, plus we don't need an amount with that limitation

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captainluffy: I'm just saying those are the potential tweaks we can do for this role, without revaml

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captainluffy: Not saying it's good or not

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captainluffy: are they notified of being poisoned

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captainluffy: if not, i should probably add a line that says they arent

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e_thsn:

are they notified of being poisoned

they're not

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mctsts: <@544125116640919557> <@234474456624529410> who's the champion?

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captainluffy: i believe ethan said he would be

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mctsts: 👍

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e_thsn:

<@544125116640919557> <@234474456624529410> who's the champion?

I said I'd do it yeah, but I also said I'd be happy to get rid of RW if we added it if people don't like RW

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captainluffy: is this thread good to close?

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shapechange: don't close threads until they're not implemented or the pr is merged

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captainluffy: i meant like good to merge, then close

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mctsts: no it needs some things

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mctsts: im fixing the branch rn

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mctsts: fixed the branch and did some further changes

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mctsts: should be good to merge

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shapechange: i havent reviewed it yet

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mctsts: *should be good to merge from a technical standpoint

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venomousbirds: just needs review

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mctsts: turns out this was merged already