Buff plague

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e_thsn: Imo plague is a bit on the weaker side atm since they are very luck based on winning, if no one acts the plague can't spread, it's entirely guess based on who they infect and they could infect all people who can't spread it

my suggestions (Not all of them to be included)

• PB starts infected
• PC maybe gets a role checking ability
• Some kind of disguising

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nick262008: Hmm, I don't think role checking really fits but I do agree about the disguise and the first one

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e_thsn:

Hmm, I don't think role checking really fits but I do agree about the disguise and the first one

role checking allows plague to pick out more effective targets

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nick262008: Yeah I know, but it doesn't really fits for plague.

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e_thsn: we could always allow the to check if the player can act or not

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nick262008: Oh that seems better actually. Can the PB infect and check at the same time?

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e_thsn: it'd be on PC

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e_thsn: the secondary

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nick262008: Oh okay. I always thought that PC was boring so that's a plus

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nick262008: I assume if PC gets promoted to PB they can't check anymore right?

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e_thsn: yep

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e_thsn: you'd be right

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e_thsn: <@&1045732542399131769> <@&1128435183113220106>

Any opinions?

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captain.luffy: idk its already good at spreading plague so i dont think better spreading is the way to go

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e_thsn: I think an investigation would help

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shapechange: as Ts has said a few times in the past, adding disguises to everything just gets boring, and an investigation doesn't fit the role. i also disagree with plague being "luck based" - it's very strategic, actually, the strategy is just kind of hard and involves a lot of reading. i think the best suggestion here is having PB and PC both started contaminated (but unable to die from it)

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mctsts: what jay says is the only buff I could see myself agreeing too

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mctsts: plague hasn't been used that much and has gotten 1 phase away from winning several times iirc

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e_thsn: really

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e_thsn: I always saw it dying a few phases before

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mctsts: i definitely remeber 1 case of it dying right before it could've won

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mctsts: i think there might have been a 2nd, but unsure

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mctsts: another buff I could see myself agreeing to is removing the rat limit

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mctsts: because one of the reason plague sometimes does badly is people not using rats

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mctsts: even when its likely they'll at most live like 1 night or so longer than amount of rats maximum

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mctsts: so the rat limit doesn't really do anything except make it seem like a bad strategy is viable

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e_thsn: if we made PB start infected we wouldn't need rats and they could just visit players

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mctsts: well the visit would still be sending a rat I assume

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e_thsn: Oh true

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mctsts: one difference would be that if a PB action gets redirected, the redirector would be contaminated too

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e_thsn: yeah

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e_thsn: which applies to 1 role

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e_thsn: fpa

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e_thsn: currently

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mctsts: yea

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raven1207.2: Remind me later to check summary

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e_thsn:

Remind me later to check summary

do you have any ideas to add to the summary

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e_thsn: anything you think the role could use

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raven1207.2: Not ATM but I'll think about it later

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the8thsoul: PB's infection also sends out a rat to spy on their target.

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the8thsoul: Maybe?

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raven1207.2: Maybe having it be able to send out more rodents each night

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mctsts: <@&1045732542399131769> <@&1128435183113220106>

Two small Plague buff suggestions:

1) Plague Bearer and Plague Carrier start out plagued (but unaffected) Makes spreading the plague slightly faster

2) Remove the rodent limit The rodents are not really ever used up and at absolute maximum I could imagine the game going 1 phase longer than the rodent limit but not really longer than that, so I don't see this making much of a difference, however if there's no limit player will be less likely to not use rodents (which is done too often, but a bad strategy)

✅ Yes to both together 1️⃣ Yes to just 1) 2️⃣ Yes to just 2) (Vote 1️⃣, 2️⃣ and ✅ to approve of both, if you're fine with just 1 of them getting approved) ⛔ No to both 🤷 Abstain

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mctsts: Both of these are very minor buffs, so discussing other buffs might be worth it

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captain.luffy: I don't think faster spreading is what they need

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mctsts: I'm not sure either

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nick262008: Why do you guys even have limited

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nick262008: What does plague even do if they run out of rodents

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mctsts: It started out with having a hard limit of 1/2 vials

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nick262008: Like no one infected 0 rodents

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nick262008: What happens?