Move Mayor Election to D0?

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shapechange: I think this has been discussed before and discarded, but maybe we should reconsider moving the mayor election to D0 (or add another election on D0? Could prevent so much randoming during N1.

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venomousbirds: lmao

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venomousbirds: i just read the first 3 messages

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venomousbirds: oop

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huckhuck55: Negative election. Announce a players role (disguises still apply)

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huckhuck55: Wait, that’s terrible. Early game confirm. Quiet huck.

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mctsts: idk if this is commonly known anymore but Mayor used to be the D0 election

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mctsts: It was bad for reasons already mentioned in this thread (and maybe other reasons I have forgotten) and that's why it got changed

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shapechange:

idk if this is commonly known anymore but Mayor used to be the D0 election

what do you think of the idea of another elected role, though?

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wwhythough: d0 announce a players role is a funny idea

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mctsts: I'm not opposed to it, but I don't have a proper opinion before we have a better idea on the actual election

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wwhythough: without town protection

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shapechange: right now all we've got is "basically fletcher but it gives a power that isn't a kill"

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mctsts: my suggestion would be the first half of monarch https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1119957011937886318/1119957011937886318 and the player chooses a heir which makes killing ineffective

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mctsts: I thought about it for 1 minute

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shapechange: hmm

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mctsts:

Each day, they may knight another player, which causes them to temporarily gain an extra vote and negate a vote against them. This part

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shapechange: it could work?

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shapechange: i'm not sure it's necessarily enough to incentivise people claiming to get it

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shapechange: because it's a role that's only impactful in the longer term, when teams are close to parity

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mctsts: in power its basically equalish to mayor < 15

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shapechange: yeah

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shapechange: but mayor <=15 isn't particularly incentivising until parity either, as seen by people randoming it

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mctsts: dont think anything stronger than mayor <= 15 would make sense though

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shapechange: it doesn't necessarily need to be stronger, it just needs to have more short-term appeal

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shapechange: quite frankly i wouldnt be opposed to it just being fletcher without revoke, i think fletcher would be more interesting as an elective than as a town role

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huckhuck55: what about the vulnerable trait? whoever is elected becomes vulnerable thereby making any visits to them kill them.

im stuck on the negative election idea.

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mctsts:

quite frankly i wouldnt be opposed to it just being fletcher without revoke, i think fletcher would be more interesting as an elective than as a town role

I dont think this is something I'd like to see frequently

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mctsts: fletcher is a fairly specific one use power which i dont think fits for elected roles

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shapechange:

what about the vulnerable trait? whoever is elected becomes vulnerable thereby making any visits to them kill them.

im stuck on the negative election idea.

because that contravenes literally everything we want from the role

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shapechange:

fletcher is a fairly specific one use power which i dont think fits for elected roles

fair enough

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huckhuck55:

because that contravenes literally everything we want from the role

but it would create discussion in a different kind of way.

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huckhuck55: not wether they should get it d0, but why they shouldnt.

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shapechange:

because that contravenes literally everything we want from the role

we need something

1. that people want to elect
2. that people will not just randomly elect
3. that will not result in whoever gets elected being killed N1

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mctsts:

but it would create discussion in a different kind of way.

the optimal strat becomes for citizens (or similiarily weak roles) to claim to get it, making the game worse for the worst roles

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shapechange: yeah

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shapechange: you have to either have a weak town role go for it, fucking up their game and reducing the claimspace for pr and scum, or it would just be randomly elected

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huckhuck55: okay, just throwing it out there.

ill pipe down lol.

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shapechange:

fletcher is a fairly specific one use power which i dont think fits for elected roles

i don't think the "one use power" part is the bad bit, though - if anything i think it's the strength, because it helps ensure criterion three

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huckhuck55: a yes or no question to one of the hosts about the rolelist or a player? :shurg:

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wwhythough: d0 president of the united states election

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huckhuck55:

a yes or no question to one of the hosts about the rolelist or a player? :shurg:

call it something like, secret dossier election.

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shapechange:

d0 president of the united states election

implying joe biden is actively communicating with a god

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huckhuck55: hes close enough to death, maybe he is.

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huckhuck55: isnt he like 95 or soemthing

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shapechange: hes in his 80s huck

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huckhuck55: yeah so 90s.... they all blend together when youre that old

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mctsts: <@458727748504911884> did you mark this as resolved as not implemented?

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mctsts: I dont remember this being closed

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shapechange: i dont remember doing so

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shapechange: might have clicked it by mistake when i made the thread in the first place