reaper discussion s10g7

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shapechange: yeah we've mentioned all those before

1. powerful and way too similar to HoF to be interesting
2. wayyy too powerful
3. probably the only decent option, but it's been discarded before so presumably someone didn't like it?

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venomousbirds:

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Proposed changes to Nightmare team.

1️⃣ Give Wraith the ability to turn a player sleepless each night. 2️⃣ Remove Reaper's R/A extra power (turn someone into a Spirit). 3️⃣ Option two, but give Reaper some other ability in recompense. None of the above.

You can vote for multiple options. If you vote for 3️⃣, suggestions would be appreciated.

this has been implemented, is there anything else from this suggestion that i missed?

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mctsts: yes, replacement power for removal of R

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e_thsn:

yes, replacement power for removal of R

vote manipulation like a 0 vote?

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mctsts: only option we have i think

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e_thsn: old-1: Flute Player (SP) old-2: Stalker (TP), Hooker (TP), Grandma (TP), Exorcist (TP), Royal Knight (TP), Infecting Wolf (WP), Tanner (WP) v7: Medium (TP) v8: Saboteur Wolf (WP) v9: Fletcher (TP), Disguised Fox (WP) v11: Pack Tanner (WP) v13: Herald (TP) v14: Corrupt Wolf (WP) v15: Horseman of Pestilence (SP), Horseman of Famine (SP), Cerberus (SP), Flute Charmer (SP), Horseman of War (SP) v16: Gallant Fox (WP)

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e_thsn: all the power roles that are default or limited

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e_thsn: other option is protection

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e_thsn: FP - Enchant, Roleblock(Obstruction) Stalker - Vote Manipulation Hooker - defences Grandma - Vote Manipulation Exorcist - Royal Knight - Poll Manipulation IW - Conversion Tanner - Disguises Medium - Info (?) Sab Wolf - Poll Manipulation Fletcher - Granting DF - Disguises PT - Disguises Herald -Info (?) CW - Vote Manipulation HoP - Roleblocks HoF - Disguises Cerb - Protection FPC - (Should be Investigative) HoW - Vote Manipulation, Poll Manipulation GF - Protection

RaKe - (Probably in Investigative) Info (?)

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venomousbirds:

yes, replacement power for removal of R

why? uaa still recruits

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mctsts: oh true

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e_thsn: Isn't that just cupid though

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e_thsn: Or is true role original role

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venomousbirds: im pretty sure reaper gets its roles like reporter gets its roles

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venomousbirds: so thatd be og role

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mctsts: <@234474456624529410> <@458727748504911884> do you have any plans to add a replacement power or do changes to reaper?

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shapechange: we couldnt think of anything lol

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mctsts: I think the last idea was stealing a vote

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mctsts: is that even particularly useful to reaper?

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e_thsn: just make p recruitment since recruitment roles became power roles

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mctsts: is there another duplicate thread of this?

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e_thsn: Errr

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e_thsn: No?

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mctsts: huh I thought so

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mctsts: does anyone thing the vote stealing is worth adding?

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mctsts: or shall we close this

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shapechange:

does anyone thing the vote stealing is worth adding?

i certainly don't

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mctsts: I dont mind it, but it feels fairly worthless

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e_thsn: I mean have an enemy with -1 vote is niche especially if it can be done like 3 times a game but could be game changing too so idk

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mctsts: yeah but I think the reaper has a hard time placing strategically smart vote manipulations

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mctsts: like it could be a complete gamechange in 1 game

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mctsts: but it could then be useless in the next 3 games

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mctsts: maybe "worthless" isn't the right term, because stealing a bunch of votes can definitely be very useful

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mctsts: I just dont think the Reaper will be able to use the powers in a way where they can get much use out of it most of the time

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mctsts: At least no intentionally

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e_thsn:

just make p recruitment since recruitment roles became power roles

Could do this idk makes some sense but how many P roles do we usually include

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mctsts: no, I strongly oppose that

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mctsts: the recruitment shouldnt be a main aspect imo

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mctsts: if you wish to put a change up for vote please do so today

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e_thsn: <@&1045732542399131769> Instead of reaper having a recruitment now we removed the recruitment catagory, power roles give it the ability to reduce someone's public voting power to 0 while they're sleepless

<@242983689921888256> can you do the reactions on evil Ts pls :)

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evilts_: done

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e_thsn: Ty

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mctsts: would this replace the recruitment power?

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e_thsn: Yeah

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mctsts: then <:yes:590859662161739806>

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e_thsn: Currently I think only cupid grants that power

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mctsts: otherwise I would've made the role more complex

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e_thsn:

Currently I think only cupid grants that power

Since R roles are removed

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mctsts: i dont think this power is great, but if it doesnt make the role more complex its better than nothing

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e_thsn: It can definitely be helpful