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New UA suggestion - Gambler #1402

Open CrowdfordBot opened 2 months ago

CrowdfordBot commented 2 months ago

e_thsn: Each night the gambler must guess who they think will die that night, upon guessing everyone correctly the gambler will receive an investigation the following day. The gambler ascends and wins upon three successful guesses.

CrowdfordBot commented 2 months ago

e_thsn: <@&1045732542399131769> <@&1128435183113220106>

CrowdfordBot commented 2 months ago

mctsts: why

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captainluffy: why would it want an investigation

CrowdfordBot commented 2 months ago

im_dumm0: Too hard

CrowdfordBot commented 2 months ago

thekremblin: i actually argue it would be too easy

CrowdfordBot commented 2 months ago

thekremblin: it's a very wolf-sided role

CrowdfordBot commented 2 months ago

captainluffy: yeah if u just choose mayor

CrowdfordBot commented 2 months ago

thekremblin: they just need to contact wolves, choose mayor and they have the win in the bag lol

CrowdfordBot commented 2 months ago

im_dumm0: But similar to psychic wolf

CrowdfordBot commented 2 months ago

e_thsn: I was thinking about a UA that can win of its own volition and guessing deaths was an option that works

CrowdfordBot commented 2 months ago

e_thsn:

they just need to contact wolves, choose mayor and they have the win in the bag lol

Well they need to guess 3 times

CrowdfordBot commented 2 months ago

thekremblin: not consecutively though

CrowdfordBot commented 2 months ago

im_dumm0: Ges where ppl just kill of mayor non stop

CrowdfordBot commented 2 months ago

e_thsn:

why would it want an investigation

Find good targets, finding pack

CrowdfordBot commented 2 months ago

e_thsn: Also just guessing mayor doesn't work if town kills someone

CrowdfordBot commented 2 months ago

e_thsn: They gotta guess everyone that night

CrowdfordBot commented 2 months ago

im_dumm0:

Find good targets, finding pack

Find a target on your back

CrowdfordBot commented 2 months ago

venomousbirds: this sounds so boring tbh

CrowdfordBot commented 2 months ago

thekremblin:

I was thinking about a UA that can win of its own volition and guessing deaths was an option that works

it doesn't win of its own voliton though...it NEEDS info from other teams

CrowdfordBot commented 2 months ago

thekremblin: it's impossible to guess if you're not in trusted

CrowdfordBot commented 2 months ago

thekremblin: guessing a wolf target? possible. guessing a town or solo target? near impossible

CrowdfordBot commented 2 months ago

shapechange: dont like this

CrowdfordBot commented 2 months ago

thekremblin: oh hey sarvak

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sarvak2: I feel like it's too easy to side and weigh the win in favour of the gambler. The fun of UA is that they could feasibly work with either side or no one and no side really wants them gone. This role just really incentives the UA to side with wolves, guaranteeing a correct guess in any game without a killing solo team.

CrowdfordBot commented 2 months ago

pokemoncross:

Each night the gambler must guess who they think will die that night, upon guessing everyone correctly the gambler will receive an investigation the following day. The gambler ascends and wins upon three successful guesses.

Unaligned Investigative (?)

CrowdfordBot commented 2 months ago

pokemoncross: sounds like

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katyhawk: I can see this role being either too easy or too hard to play. Theoretically it could win without ever talking or contacting anyone. It could also eat shit and be completely left out of the loop.

The role most similar I can think of is psychopath and that one has a lot of interaction with all killing roles

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venomousbirds: its just another ua that needs to be close to tt to win

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venomousbirds: its det's problem too

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pokemoncross: town trusted

CrowdfordBot commented 2 months ago

e_thsn: Eh it's just something I thought might work, but I guess I didn't think it would side and would use reads more

CrowdfordBot commented 2 months ago

venomousbirds: if tt is established, most kills wont be announced and will be silent

CrowdfordBot commented 2 months ago

venomousbirds: if its not in tt, it's practically fucked

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steinator: Imma be honest I wanted to make that post like 2 weeks ago but drcided against it cause itll be very easy

CrowdfordBot commented 2 months ago

venomousbirds: its either extremely easy or extremely difficult

CrowdfordBot commented 2 months ago

pokemoncross: what's TT <@277156693765390337> ?

CrowdfordBot commented 2 months ago

steinator: town trusted

CrowdfordBot commented 2 months ago

pokemoncross: ahh

CrowdfordBot commented 2 months ago

e_thsn:

its either extremely easy or extremely difficult

Designing UA in a nutshell

CrowdfordBot commented 2 months ago

sarvak2: I think it could be fine if instead you guessed "x person will die by X day" and if you get more than 50% of your guesses right by the end of the game, you win. Maybe also have it so guessing the exact day or night gives you more points towards winning or something.

Incentives them to side with town for lynches, wolves for kills, and it can be independent if it makes safe bets, but if it dies too early it doesn't have enough guesses.

CrowdfordBot commented 2 months ago

e_thsn: Have we ever designed any UA within the past few years that have escaped limited

CrowdfordBot commented 2 months ago

e_thsn: I can only think of cat which is just dog but automatically opposite of dog

CrowdfordBot commented 2 months ago

steinator: are hags still limited?

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e_thsn: I think so

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captainluffy: they are the most limited of the limited

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steinator: good

CrowdfordBot commented 2 months ago

e_thsn: ;unaligned master

CrowdfordBot commented 2 months ago

sarvak2: UA is such a tricky category though

CrowdfordBot commented 2 months ago

sarvak2: Like to design

CrowdfordBot commented 2 months ago

pokemoncross: say... riding hood...