reaper changes

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Ethan.: Change Reaper abilities to improve the powers taken from the dead

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shapechange: is this necessary?

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Ts: I suggested M -> Protection and permanent disguise

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Ethan.: Additions • Reaper gains a Permenant weak disguise (??) • Non listed roles now give ??

Removals • Non listed roles give a disguise for a phase

Tweaks • Recruitment roles = Conversion to spirit -> Recruitment and Align roles = Conversion • Sleepless players that use an ability on the reaper or wraith instead fail and die -> Sleepless players that attack the reaper or wraith instead fail and die

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shapechange: actually that's all pretty good i think

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shapechange: ethan's stuff i mean

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shapechange: I'm kind of of the opinion that most if not all solos should have perma weak disguises

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Ethan.: That's originally why I thought M roles to a temporary disguise would be a good ability

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Ethan.: But it's unpredictable

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shapechange: yeah, i never liked that part of reaper

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shapechange: I'm not super opposed to M roles not giving any ability

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Ethan.: It's M and G roles atm

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Ethan.: Atm disguises and obstructions on solos are Weak - Hell Strong - Flock Obstructions - Flute Disguising others - Flute Strong when Misc/Group dies - Reaper

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Ethan.: We're removing the last one

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Ethan.: Oh and one of the horsemen has a disguise others

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shapechange: WWW has a disguise too

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Ethan.: Oh right

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Ethan.: But WWW is more than a disguise

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Ethan.: It's complete mimicry

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shapechange: still a disguise

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Ethan.: Yeah

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Ethan.: I also think the reaper killing those that are sleepless who target it gives reaper away

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Ethan.: Except for kills if someone dies immediately after performing an action while they're sleepless you know that person is reaper or wraith

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shapechange: maybe making the kill end phase

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Ethan.: But part of it is the ability fails

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Ethan.: We could make it protect from only attacks

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Ethan.: Sleepless players that attempt to attack the reaper die instead

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shapechange: works imo

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Ethan.: <@242983689921888256> what about your idea for WM giving a poll for a kill

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Ethan.: but what if the first WM gives a poll kill and the first TM gives a permanent weak disguise of the role that dies

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Ethan.: SM, UAM, WG and TG give nothing

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Ts:

<@242983689921888256> what about your idea for WM giving a poll for a kill

i dont remember that

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Ethan.:

i dont remember that

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/584860132186390548/1036111077001408523

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Ts: ah that was when I was thinking each category/team combination is a different ability

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shapechange:

<@242983689921888256> what about your idea for WM giving a poll for a kill

don't like that

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Ethan.: hmm

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Captain Luffy: What if group role was combined with power

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Captain Luffy: Instead of misc

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Captain Luffy: Only thing I'm unsure of is the sleepless change, I don't know if I like or dislike it

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Ts: I get the reasoning for it but im not sure if im convinced

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Ethan.:

Only thing I'm unsure of is the sleepless change, I don't know if I like or dislike it

The change is designed to give reaper protection to death but not give it away as it basically reflects the kill to the attacker

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Ethan.: because if a sleepless FT checks someone then suddenly dies town knows it found reaper

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Ts: killing investigators was more useful when it didnt have a disguise

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Ts: now if it gets one that kind of becomes pointless

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Captain Luffy: in that case, maybe people shouldnt learn if they become sleepless

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Ethan.:

Additions • Reaper gains a Permenant weak disguise of the first role that dies, if multiple roles die first one of them is chosen arbitrarily

Removals • Non listed roles give a disguise for a phase

Tweaks • Recruitment roles = Conversion to spirit -> Recruitment and Align roles = Conversion • Sleepless players that use an ability on the reaper or wraith instead fail and die -> Sleepless players that attack the reaper or wraith instead fail and die

Here's the full changes

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Ethan.:

Also I would add the sleepless killing to include recruitments too

I don't think that's necessary

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Ethan.: We already have hell team that's immune to recruitment

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Captain Luffy: It's not immune, just if the target is sleepless. It's protection basically

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Ethan.:

It's not immune, just if the target is sleepless. It's protection basically

It makes sleepless players unable to convert it

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Captain Luffy: Yeah