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Rogue Wolf Idea #956

Closed CrowdfordBot closed 1 year ago

CrowdfordBot commented 1 year ago

Ts: <:TownsfolkCard:1072275831541477448><:Wolf:987858992661422080> Ethan's idea

CrowdfordBot commented 1 year ago

Ts: <@544125116640919557> unsure what this was

CrowdfordBot commented 1 year ago

Ethan.:

<@544125116640919557> unsure what this was

Rogue wolf becoming CC if they lose their power was one thing I suggested mid game

Because it was said that atm rogue wolf feels like a priest clone without having a bigger threat to it than losing its power, however people were objected to direct role change so maybe we do cursed civ instead

CrowdfordBot commented 1 year ago

Captain Luffy: Then it loses its disguise, its lycan status, and its wolfish status

CrowdfordBot commented 1 year ago

Captain Luffy: I don't think that makes very much sense

CrowdfordBot commented 1 year ago

Ethan.: Well maybe not become the exact role but gain the c civ ability

CrowdfordBot commented 1 year ago

Captain Luffy: I guess then you'd have to make a new transformation role for that

CrowdfordBot commented 1 year ago

Captain Luffy: For wolf roles that lose their powers, they turn into they wolf role anyways

CrowdfordBot commented 1 year ago

Ts: they dont

CrowdfordBot commented 1 year ago

Captain Luffy: Lone wolf, lone warlock, all 3 foxes

CrowdfordBot commented 1 year ago

Ts: only foxes do

CrowdfordBot commented 1 year ago

Ts: lone wolf and lone warlock do not

CrowdfordBot commented 1 year ago

Ts: there was a suggestion to have them change, but it still unresolved

CrowdfordBot commented 1 year ago

Ts: https://github.com/McTsts/Werewolves-Roles/issues/412

CrowdfordBot commented 1 year ago

Captain Luffy: Oh they don't? I know they used to

CrowdfordBot commented 1 year ago

Ts: <#1049671675219812472>

CrowdfordBot commented 1 year ago

Ts:

Oh they don't? I know they used to

I'm not sure if thats accurate, or if some Hosts just do it even if it is incorrect

CrowdfordBot commented 1 year ago

Ts: (like done in this game)

CrowdfordBot commented 1 year ago

Captain Luffy: Changing roles into powerless ones is a good way to simplify roles losing their power

CrowdfordBot commented 1 year ago

Vera but actually a frog:

Rogue wolf becoming CC if they lose their power was one thing I suggested mid game

Because it was said that atm rogue wolf feels like a priest clone without having a bigger threat to it than losing its power, however people were objected to direct role change so maybe we do cursed civ instead

sounds good

CrowdfordBot commented 1 year ago

Ts: im fine with the concept, but it seems very strange if you think about it

CrowdfordBot commented 1 year ago

Ts: like how does a rogue wolf turn into a cursed civilian

CrowdfordBot commented 1 year ago

Ts: i know this sort of thing isnt the highest priority, but in this case the transformation is very bizzare

CrowdfordBot commented 1 year ago

Ts: rogue wolf -> cursed civilian -> wolf

CrowdfordBot commented 1 year ago

Ts: I think there's a nice explanation to do the same thing lore wise

CrowdfordBot commented 1 year ago

Ts: like idk the rogue wolf decides to rejoin the wolves the next time they encounter a wolfish player

CrowdfordBot commented 1 year ago

Captain Luffy: if modifiers existed could say it gets the accursd modifier

CrowdfordBot commented 1 year ago

shapechange: we don't need to have it be explicitly a change to a cc or similar: could just tag on "if the rogue wolf no longer has its ability, then upon being attacked by a wolfish player it will convert" except wit proper phrasing

CrowdfordBot commented 1 year ago

Captain Luffy: but if it becomes cursed civ then it loses its disguise and wolfish trait and lycan trait

CrowdfordBot commented 1 year ago

shapechange: yes and we dont want that

CrowdfordBot commented 1 year ago

Ts: yea that makes no sense

CrowdfordBot commented 1 year ago

Ts:

we don't need to have it be explicitly a change to a cc or similar: could just tag on "if the rogue wolf no longer has its ability, then upon being attacked by a wolfish player it will convert" except wit proper phrasing

yea pretty much this is what I meant

CrowdfordBot commented 1 year ago

Ts: it makes more sense mechanically (doesnt lose the wolfish traits) and lore wise too

CrowdfordBot commented 1 year ago

Captain Luffy: sounds like a role i wouldnt want in my list

CrowdfordBot commented 1 year ago

Captain Luffy: or to play with

CrowdfordBot commented 1 year ago

shapechange: okay then dont make lists with it

CrowdfordBot commented 1 year ago

Ts: meh thats not a good reply

CrowdfordBot commented 1 year ago

Captain Luffy: like priest but an even worse punishement, alignment change. cant trust them with any info, wincon completely at the mercy of town leads decided actions

CrowdfordBot commented 1 year ago

shapechange: im not sure how this is a worse punishment than priest

CrowdfordBot commented 1 year ago

Ts: is the punishment worse though? its much harder to reach

CrowdfordBot commented 1 year ago

Ts: priest - fail once, die rogue wolf - fail twice AND get attacked, change alignment

CrowdfordBot commented 1 year ago

shapechange: rn as it is i really dislike rogue wolf because it is literally just a shittier priest

CrowdfordBot commented 1 year ago

Ts: Even if you consider alignment change to be worse than death its overall much harder to reach

CrowdfordBot commented 1 year ago

shapechange: and if we can't decide on a change i will propose it be removed

CrowdfordBot commented 1 year ago

Captain Luffy: i mean, it is gonna get attacked eventually

CrowdfordBot commented 1 year ago

shapechange: not necessarily????

CrowdfordBot commented 1 year ago

Captain Luffy: how often do cursed cits remain as cursed cit to the end of the game

CrowdfordBot commented 1 year ago

shapechange: fairly often, actually

CrowdfordBot commented 1 year ago

shapechange: in fact i can only think of like. two incidents in which they were turned

CrowdfordBot commented 1 year ago

Captain Luffy: i cant remember a time when they werent, but thats just my memory

CrowdfordBot commented 1 year ago

shapechange: for a cursed civ to be attacked, wolves need to have their invest survive and/or get very lucky