Flock Team v2

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Ts: <:Shepherd:990696034210558002> Discuss the updated Flock team

Please put your opinions on the updated flock team here.

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Ethan.:

im not sure what you mean

The original idea behind losing votes while herded was to make it more wolf friendly because town sacrifice voting power for protection, but also lynch immune is more wolf friendly too

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Ts: okay this is too much for me right now

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Ts: I will vote another time when I'm capable of thinking it through

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Ethan.: So we originally needed to add more wolfsided power to shepherd

Because the protection from night attacks is more townsided

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Captain Luffy: 2 for sure, 1 seems insane

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huckhuck55: was the idea that the shep can (anonymously) use the herds votes poopooed?

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!Phantomtomic: How would they “anonymously” use the votes 💀

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huckhuck55: meaning, when the tallys come out its not like.... luffy voted for babi 4 times.

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huckhuck55: it would still be linked to the player that voted. phan voted for snivy ----> phan voted for ethan

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!Phantomtomic: Wow that’s so much logging

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Captain Luffy: You dont see how many times each person voted for who, you just see the total votes placed on a person

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Ts:

How would they “anonymously” use the votes 💀

isnt that what grandma does..?

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!Phantomtomic: I thought grandma stole the votes?

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!Phantomtomic: So their vote value increases?

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Ts: yea

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Ts: but its still anoanmoyus

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!Phantomtomic: What’s counted as an unanonymous vote then

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!Phantomtomic: I thought vote values were shown during poll close

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Ts: no??

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!Phantomtomic: ?????

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Ts: have you ever seen them in a poll close message?

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!Phantomtomic: I thought poll closing showed the vote values added up

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!Phantomtomic: Oh wait I somewhat understand

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!Phantomtomic: Vote value changes aren’t shown in the final poll results?

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Ts: it shows the total votes

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Ts: but not where they come from

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!Phantomtomic: Yeah but with so many vote nullifications shep will get easily revealed the more herded

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Ts: yea

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!Phantomtomic: Also huck stated the votes would be hidden

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Ts: that was actually the reason why IK was broken

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Ts: it would always get revealed cause it'd have votes and everyone else wouldn't

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!Phantomtomic: What’s IK

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!Phantomtomic: Ah ice king

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Ethan.: <@242983689921888256> what if the vote stealing instead forced the player to vote a specific person (e.g) Shepherd unherds X and makes them vote Y so X would have 0 voting power and Y would have 1 against them

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Ethan.: <@242983689921888256> you never responded to my suggestion, to instead of adding the votes from a vote steal to the shepherd's target instead of the shepherd's own power so the shepherd could secretly vote someone out

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Ts: sorry for ignoring you

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Ethan.: All good :)

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Ethan.: just think we need some ideas for this

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Ethan.: it's deffo too townsided

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Ts: ill give you a response another time if you need one, but not right now

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Ethan.: something that makes it able to be useful to wolves or not all good for town

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Snivy-Ace13: Maybe it prevents you from making yourself town confirmed

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Ethan.: Chat GPT suggested

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huckhuck55: That’s what I’ve been saying!! Lol

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Ethan.: It also suggested an investigation

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Ethan.: Which idt helps

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Ethan.: Imo 1) herded players lose voting power 2) shepherd can unheard people and that day force them to vote a player e.g I'm shepherd and I go I unherd Ts but force him to vote Vera and Vera gains a +1 against them like how stalker works (or ig we can also use the public vote command) 3) move the HD joining herded to herding dog is an exception to the flock team can't be herded rule

Required anyway) A role for transforming uaa because shepherd is to strong for multiple and HD has a whisper channel

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Ethan.: <@242983689921888256> can you do a poll please

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Ts:

Imo 1) herded players lose voting power 2) shepherd can unheard people and that day force them to vote a player e.g I'm shepherd and I go I unherd Ts but force him to vote Vera and Vera gains a +1 against them like how stalker works (or ig we can also use the public vote command) 3) move the HD joining herded to herding dog is an exception to the flock team can't be herded rule

Required anyway) A role for transforming uaa because shepherd is to strong for multiple and HD has a whisper channel

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This.

✅ Yes ⛔ No 🤷 Abstain

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Ethan.: 5 abstain 2 yes