BH Buff

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Ts: <:BitterHag:990716722543755354> Potentially buff BH

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Ts: <@234474456624529410>

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Captain Luffy: At the bare minimum, I think a valuable change is that it keeps the unused Spells from before

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Ts: I think thats a left over from a previous hag version

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The8thSoul: each one can only use each spell once?

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The8thSoul: hmmm... I think that's the weak point

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The8thSoul: Maybe after using their spells they start placing a curse on other players?

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The8thSoul: Or maybe they start casting a curse on players (each hag can place a spell on one player)

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The8thSoul: wait... that might turn into flute team tho...

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The8thSoul: hmmm...

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Ethan.: the hags can use the spells between them each night?

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Ethan.: so if there's 2 bitter hags they can use 2 hag spells

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Captain Luffy: is that a suggestion? or its current ability

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Ethan.:

is that a suggestion? or its current ability

suggestion

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Captain Luffy: i guess it would make sense if theres 2+ bitter hags, for the others to get more uses of the spells when a bitter hag dies

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The8thSoul: maybe when there is one bitter hag left, they gain the ability to use any spell each night?

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Captain Luffy: they are a solo roles so theyre allowed to be strong ig, not sure if we want to go that far though

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Captain Luffy: because then they would only use the killing spell, which ruins the variety of the role

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Captain Luffy: unless the spell they get unlimited uses of corresponds to their original hag type

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!Phantomtomic:

i guess it would make sense if theres 2+ bitter hags, for the others to get more uses of the spells when a bitter hag dies

Yeah but usually there's really little hags in the rl to end up with multiple bitter hags, especially if a rl only has 2 hags

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Captain Luffy:

Yeah but usually there's really little hags in the rl to end up with multiple bitter hags, especially if a rl only has 2 hags

if they have 3, and one is lynched

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Captain Luffy: u get 2 bh

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!Phantomtomic: That's if they get lynched, chances are one may be killed instead and this will result in only 1 bh

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Vera but actually a frog: i cant remember bitter hag ever existing

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The8thSoul:

i cant remember bitter hag ever existing

Yeah, coz normally everyone avoids harming hags lol

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The8thSoul: It's either no one dares to harm hags, or only 1 team wrongs the hags, and more than once

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The8thSoul: Coz normally Hags reveal to an opposing team directly after one team has wronged them. No one is brave enough to try to get a solo win as hags

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The8thSoul: lmao

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Vera but actually a frog: oh im just saying that i cant really imagine a change because we never used bh

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The8thSoul: I think we are just thinking hypothetically

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The8thSoul: Coz rn Bitter Hags do seem a little weak

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The8thSoul:

Each Bitter Hag may protect, investigate and attack a player once (at night).

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The8thSoul: This seems like the main reason

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Vera but actually a frog: well that is already a lot

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Vera but actually a frog: and yeah, id say keep the old spells if it has any uses left

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Vera but actually a frog: ig it makes sense

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The8thSoul: reasons behind this:

1. They are now a solo team, yet basically have no power to win. [No kill potential at all, only maximum 3 kills. Therefore must rely on having the majority vote, which is almost impossible.]
2. There is normally 3 Hags and 3 teams. Meaning Hags will never turn Bitter, as it is incredibly likely all Hags are dead by the time all teams have wronged them.

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Vera but actually a frog:

No kill potential at all, only maximum 3 kills wha

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The8thSoul:

No kill potential at all, only maximum 3 kills wha

oh... did I misunderstand the ability?

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The8thSoul: I thought it meant they can only use each ability once... overall

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The8thSoul: not each night

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Vera but actually a frog: its a kill every night

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The8thSoul: bruh

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Vera but actually a frog: oh wait

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Vera but actually a frog: apparently its not

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Vera but actually a frog: i always thought they would get those 3 abilities every night

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Vera but actually a frog: okay yeah bitter hag is BAD

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The8thSoul:

i always thought they would get those 3 abilities every night

It would be a bit op tbh

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Vera but actually a frog: well look at it

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The8thSoul:

okay yeah bitter hag is BAD

but yeah, either way, its either OP or UP

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Vera but actually a frog: they'd be wronged at least once