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add citation to supplement section 3 #61

Closed elray1 closed 8 months ago

elray1 commented 9 months ago

In supplement section 3, "[w]e recall how quantiles arise as solutions to a probabilistic decision problem." Let's add a citation to the literature that we're recalling.

aaronger commented 9 months ago

Actually I feel like this is more like "as known from folklore"... and is useful to write out because there is no good reference that succinctly pulls these things together. Neither Dawid nor Gneiting seem to have ever wanted to bother. I'm heavily influenced by Rockafellar and co these days, but their language is pretty quirky...

elray1 commented 9 months ago

it seems like we should somehow concretely indicate that this is a longstanding known fact... at minimum, I think Murphy(1993) has some kind of statement of this

aaronger commented 9 months ago

But that's for a discrete problem... It's the continuous situation that's hard to reference. I wish Ehm et al. (2016) had done this in sec 2.3, but they really didn't.

elray1 commented 9 months ago

That makes sense. Can we say something about how for discrete problems this is well known (e.g., cite), and it seems to be understood as true in a continuous setting as well though we are not aware of a specific citation, so we lay out out here?

aaronger commented 9 months ago

I'm torn. On the one hand, I don't want to look like I'm trying to recycle content that Dawid or Gneiting would say is common knowledge as original, but I also feel like the presentation and level of detail might be novel. There is the stochastic optimization literature, but will take some time to find a sufficiently non-quirky source...

elray1 commented 9 months ago

I'm not saying you have to attribute your work to someone else, but I think we need to do something to say how the content of this section fits into or complements what's out there in existing literature

aaronger commented 9 months ago

How about Gneiting "Quantiles as optimal point forecasts" and/or Jose Winkler "Evaluating Quantile Assessments" along with a "see references therein"...

elray1 commented 9 months ago

sounds good to me

aaronger commented 9 months ago

first try: bf5bb2a13f9982e50f4d6a94c3a6289d06800721