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Add single track TRAX routes from UTA #152

Closed ZachBeck closed 2 years ago

ZachBeck commented 2 years ago

Summary

This is could be a can of worms... UTA has requested that our existing double track representation of TRAX routes be replaced with a version showing the centerline for each route. Where the different TRAX routes (R, B, G) share the same physical tracks the centerlines overlap. I think UTA would prefer that TRANSPORTATION.LightRail_UTA be replaced with the new centerline version but there is value (i.e. multi modal) in keeping our existing double track data. Does it make sense to have 2 versions of TRAX in the SGID or would it be better to have the double track version available in TRANSPORTATION.Railroads?

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steveoh commented 2 years ago

@brigsz, @jacobdadams, @bgranberg, and others... What are the pros and cons from the planning and transportation perspectives of this request?

@ZachBeck I think that was a good recommendation to put the double track line work in the railroads dataset since it does sound like UTA is very interested in their data being single line.

gregbunce commented 2 years ago

should we have a quick meeting with Summer at UTA to better understand the proposed changes?

ZachBeck commented 2 years ago

I would vote for discussing it further in our data meeting (it's on the agenda) and if our decision is something that would give UTA heartburn then talk with Sumer.

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stdavis commented 2 years ago

@ZachBeck What was the decision from the data meeting on this? I assume that this issue is holding up #153?

ZachBeck commented 2 years ago

I think I'm the hold up. I'm not really thrilled about any of the options but I think replace the existing trax data with the centerline version and move our trax features into railroads is probably the best route. I'll get moving on this the week of the 13th when I'm back in town.

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steveoh commented 2 years ago

Everything ok @gregbunce?

gregbunce commented 2 years ago

Ha! Yup. Sitting on an airplane trying to be productive for a moment using a phone. Allz good. I'll just get back to being unproductive. I think it will save me time.

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Everything ok @gbunce https://github.com/gbunce?

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stdavis commented 2 years ago

Is this still being held up by @ZachBeck? Is there anything that I can do to help?

ZachBeck commented 2 years ago

I'm still the hold up

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stdavis commented 2 years ago

Any update on this @ZachBeck?

ZachBeck commented 2 years ago

Today is the day

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stdavis commented 2 years ago

@ZachBeck Are you waiting on me for anything related to this issue? If so, let me know.

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steveoh commented 2 years ago

Is https://opendata.gis.utah.gov/datasets/utah-uta-light-rail-routes/explore?location=40.645640%2C-111.914994%2C-1.00 the open data layer for this? I'm confused by the publish date of September 11, 2017.

There is also a light rail routes on our website but the last update date is also 2017.

https://gis.utah.gov/data/transportation/transit/

@ZachBeck it looks like you are assigned all of those tasks so i think these questions are for you.

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ZachBeck commented 2 years ago

I'll bring it up in this weeks data team meeting, it seems like the past couple times we were derailed by naming conventions. Part of me would rather delete the issue as well.

steveoh commented 2 years ago

Part of me would rather delete the issue as well.

Why do you want to delete the issue? The issue is letting us know we haven't finished the task yet.

ZachBeck commented 2 years ago

I don't know... the single track vs double track representation seemed like splitting hairs to me. I'll try and get it wrapped up.

gregbunce commented 2 years ago

i can't remember, has this data been added to Internal?

ZachBeck commented 2 years ago

No. Every time we were close to doing something we started debating what the name should be.

steveoh commented 2 years ago

The bot is showing this dataset as existing in internal. Is that not the case?