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How to model oral sources? And how to document videos, sounds, etc. as sources? #23

Open stephenhart8 opened 4 years ago

stephenhart8 commented 4 years ago

The new Wikipedia in Indigenous language (Cree?) allows to have oral information as a source for a statement. The oral tradition is indeed very important to some Indigenous Nations (if not all?), and therefor allowing only written source would go against some of those believes. In CIDOC CRM, it does not seem very complicated, as the E28 Conceptual Object “comprises non-material products of our minds and other human produced data that have become objects of a discourse about their identity, circumstances of creation or historical implication” (CIDOC CRM).

Habennin commented 4 years ago

quick note: FRBR is working on a new class for 'materialization' the idea of an event that leaves its traces in the memories of others. Even without that, the oral testimony itself is some sort of information object performed in the recounting and linked to an actor. The grounding of the statement is the speech of the authoritative figure.

It's a really interesting topic!

illip commented 4 years ago

CHIN has decided to wait to get some use cases for this pattern before implementing. We don't have an Indigenous expert in our team yet and this is something we would like to discuss with the Indigenous communities first. We would also like to align our pattern with FRBR if it suits our requirements. For the moment, we plan to implement this pattern in the next version.

scarey-chin commented 3 years ago

Just starting to look at this (and I can't speak to the Indigenous perspective), but one thing that jumps out to me immediately is that there are two (at least) different types of oral information that may be recorded. There is oral tradition that can provide information (more likely about an object and its use - but some of this information may not be allowed to be shared with outsiders). There is also oral history, or recounting from one person. Then there could also be recordings of dance, etc. that may be provide information about the way an object is used. (again some of this may not be 'shareable' with outsiders). I recall a story about an object and the fact that it should not have conservation treatment,and something to do with the way it was used (again more about objects than actors), but it was mentioned in a Labs consultation with Indigenous groups, so I would need G drive access to see that. It was more of a story providing information about an object, rather than what you would record but I had started to look into information you record about intangible heritage, so I'll refer back to those notes and look into this some more. :)

scarey-chin commented 3 years ago

Here is a sample record of an oral history interview the provides information about a number of people. The information (other than describing the media) is recorded in the 'description' field. https://collections.si.edu/search/detail/edanmdm:yt_0YHpbG7vatk?q=%22oral+history%22&record=1&hlterm=%26quot%3Boral%2Bhistory%26quot%3B Here is the list of intangible heritage: Oral traditions and expressions including language as a vehicle of the intangible cultural heritage; b. Performing arts; c. Social practices, rituals and festive events; d. Knowledge and practice about nature and the universe; e. Traditional craftsmanship. This is not really what the original question was, but information about some of these could be recorded in audio/video. Any of this information might be considered 'internal' or only for sharing within the Indigenous community.

This publication deals with Linked Data and ICH: https://www.liberquarterly.eu/articles/10.18352/lq.10315/ This is beyond the scope of what you're talking about, but for instance, I recall that Patricia from the McBride Museum mentioned that some craftspeople could be identified specifically by their style. If there was someone recorded talking about the identifying features or a video showing how the person made their (I believe it may have been mocassins?) then that information would be useful for recording. This reference from that publication may be of interest (on CultureSampo: "In this context Kettula and Hyvönen (2012) use as their working model a video record of traditional shoemaking, proposing a process-oriented analysis and cataloguing of video documentations, where parts of the film can be indexed as annotated video, in regard to sub-processes that successively take place within the video.1" There's a reference to this article about documenting ICH: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2212054816300467?via%3Dihub I know that this is beyond what you are looking for here, but if you are describing people who may be using traditional techniques, it may come into play, as in the example of shoemaking given above.

scarey-chin commented 3 years ago

Here's a record from LOC of a recording of a traditional dance. I'm just putting this here so you can see the type of metadata recorded for an video. It also has information about rights and the TK (traditional knowledge) label. https://www.loc.gov/item/2015655558/ I think these TK labels will be important for anything of this nature we would wish to include for related information. The labels have information about them available in English, French, and Spanish.