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Influence of non-actor on actors #33

Open stephenhart8 opened 4 years ago

stephenhart8 commented 4 years ago

In the v1.5 of the Target Model, the influence of someone on another actor is modeled in the relationship pattern. Yet, some other things (like events or objects) could have some influence on the lives of actors. Or this is not yet modeled in the TM. We attempted to replicate the relationship pattern for non-actor influence, but it was not satisfactory: Influence In this pattern, we miss-used the property ´P15 was influenced by`, as in this pattern, it is the event that is influenced, and not the actor.

The question is: How to model such types of influences?

Habennin commented 4 years ago

Is there actually a general field which just lists things that influenced a person? Do we have example data?

Habennin commented 4 years ago

this pattern wouldn't work anyhow, because it is about a one time event and not an on-going, a temporal relation

Habennin commented 4 years ago

so coming back on this... I would argue the following.

Influence on an actor by non actors is a great topic... If we tried to follow Latour then we could break our minds by following through with trying to de-centre the notion of actor in CIDOC CRM... but let's not go there.

If we mean by influence on actors by non actors some sort of documentation field for actors wherecataloguers put in a list of controlled terms which could be types or ideas or... objects (I'm not sure what this list could fully entail), probably you can model it like in the following diagram.

CHIN Influence Proposal

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1igPNHJm24M6piFpc1LbL2ZkhQU9QaaQw/view?usp=sharing

This basically follows the Winckelman witnessing the Laoocon example in the CRM. So we model the influence itself as an event but not an E7 Activity but rather an E5 Event. The idea being that the individual actor and some other persistent thing at some point shared a spacetime volume and, probably, passively, the actor got some sort of elan of inspiration... an influence. The event node need not be surfaced here in an interface. You could avoid it. But you could create it because eventually you can have an argument about when that influence happened etc and then if you already have the event node instantiated you have a point from which to hang your argumentation.

KarineLeonardBrouillet commented 4 years ago

Notes on verbal meeting 2020-02-17

Already have a pattern for actors. How to link a person to an event if they were influenced by an event for example (e.g. war or a movie). For the movie it would be an information object. Being influenced by being in WWII for example it comes down to participating in but it is not an influence event for everyone. If the semantics are that Bob in particular was influenced it has to be typed on the relationship to the event. G’s solution works for non-events things but influence remains problematic as it is so vague. Martin Doerr is working on influence at the moment so we should watch this closely. Could work CRM observation (look at scope notes to stretch the meaning maybe). Could experience the thing or the process and have results. But we do not know what to do if we only know the person was influenced. Then with observation or event: the thing encountered is the concept which applies to both the person who experienced and the person who read about WWII. And you can encounter a concept (or type) it is semantically correct (e.g. WWII is probably a Library of Congress Subject Heading type).

CRMsci S19 - Encounter Event could be used to stay vague on what was the real implication of the person in this influence event (participate, learn about, etc.)

scarey-chin commented 4 years ago

Hi - I was thinking a bit about this influence of events on artists. In some cases, an event will occur that will cause a change (eg. Emily Carr's parents died and she moved to San Francisco). That's definitely a life event but hard to document influence. More recently, though, in the case of Black Lives Matter I thought of an example for contemporary art. There is a lane in Toronto that is called 'Graffiti Alley'. Recently a number of graffiti artists chose to change their art to reflect the impact of Black Lives Matter. So you could say that the movement influenced them, but even more directly, some of the art referred to George Floyd specifically. So in this case, this event definitely influenced them. https://www.blogto.com/arts/2020/06/graffiti-alley-toronto-black-lives-matter/

TrangDg commented 3 years ago

Diagram is removed from Version 2.1, to be included in future version.