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cannot use preview with many datasets #933

Closed ericvaandering closed 10 years ago

ericvaandering commented 10 years ago

Original Savannah ticket 101741 reported by None on Thu Jun 13 05:57:02 2013.

When I try to make a transfer request for many datasets, and I try to use the preview button, I get an error message:

Error retrieving preview data

You can reproduce this error with all of the datasets below.

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ericvaandering commented 10 years ago

Comment by wildish on Thu Jun 13 06:13:00 2013

Hi,

this isn't a PhEDEx bug, this happens because of the frontend webservers timing out the request. There's nothing we can do about that in PhEDEx, we don't control the frontend servers.

BTW, I have to say, that's a pretty impressive request :-)

Since the preview is optional, you should be able to go ahead and make the request anyway.

Be advised that if actually making the request times out, which I think is entirely possible, that does not mean the request has failed. It only means the request didn't complete in time to satisfy the frontend timeout, and the frontends cut the communication.

The request will very likely proceed to completion in the backend, unaware that the frontend has severed communication with the client.

For that reason, I would recommend making smaller requests!

Note that there is no sensible way for us to protect against this in the web page. Requests can have wildcards, so limiting the number of datasets doesn't help. The only way to know how long it will take to make a request is to actually do that work, so there's no reasonable limits we can impose.

ericvaandering commented 10 years ago

Closed by wildish on Thu Jun 13 06:13:00 2013

ericvaandering commented 10 years ago

Comment by anlevin on Thu Jun 13 06:33:22 2013

Who does control the frontend servers?

Maybe I should create a ticket for them?

ericvaandering commented 10 years ago

Comment by wildish on Thu Jun 13 08:10:10 2013

that would be Diego and the HTTP group.

I don't have a clue what the timeout would have to be to satisfy that request, but it could be huge. I doubt Diego will be willing to change the timeout to satisfy the occasional outlier like this.

A more reasonable strategy would be to split your request into smaller chunks, say 10-20 datasets per request. Again, there, the time to process the request depends on what you are requesting, not how many datasets it is, so I cannot give any hard guidelines.