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Plugin Library lo-fi sketch #3003

Closed shannonbux closed 6 years ago

shannonbux commented 7 years ago

Hey @KyleAMathews, @calcsam, and @fk (and others welcome as well!). Here's a lo-fi version of a possible plugin library. Thoughts? I'm concerned it's a bit crowded, and maybe too much like js.coach. Also included summary of the research for reference (so you know what pain points are and what Gatsby fans are experiencing w/ current plugin situation).

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KyleAMathews commented 7 years ago

Looking good!

A few thoughts:

shannonbux commented 7 years ago

Thanks @KyleAMathews and would the sourcegraph thing be a way to search for / pull in all gatsby-related projects into the library? That would be cool. Any way we can streamline/automate this library would be awesome. P.S. What would be the goal of listing which gatsby APIs each plugin uses (i.e. would that be useful for Gatsby developers/contributors?)

shannonbux commented 7 years ago

AND @rdela looping you in here too. Would love to hear your thoughts on this potential plugin library design!

KyleAMathews commented 7 years ago

What would be the goal of listing which gatsby APIs each plugin uses (i.e. would that be useful for Gatsby developers/contributors?)

Yeah exactly. If you're trying to figure out how to build something, a useful pattern is to find other plugins that are similar and copy them.

rdela commented 7 years ago

Love it! Looked at Sourcegraph on my phone, Think we can get all we need straight from GH?

Last month, we made it easier for you to keep track of the projects your code depends on with the dependency graph, currently supported in Javascript and Ruby. Today, for the over 75 percent of GitHub projects that have dependencies, we’re helping you do more than see those important projects. With your dependency graph enabled, we’ll now notify you when we detect a vulnerability in one of your dependencies and suggest known fixes from the GitHub community.

https://github.com/blog/2470-introducing-security-alerts-on-github

Security notifications great thing to surface in index as well.

Are we ready to prototype?

@redmega @hmeissner @rafacm @mlukaszczyk @flexzuu any of you have thoughts on comments so far or ideas on best approach to get something working to begin iterating on?

I was reading about Wade may be of interest for fast local offline search possibilities. @KyleAMathews did you have ideas on search implementation?

KyleAMathews commented 7 years ago

I already signed up for access for Algolia's search index of NPM https://blog.algolia.com/yarn-search-javascript-packages/

That should work really well for us.

KyleAMathews commented 7 years ago

Most security alerts wouldn't apply to Gatsby I'd guess since it's a dev/build tool and you generally don't build from unknown code/data.

rdela commented 7 years ago

Well we may have to wait for dependency graph and security notifications to get added into public API, I scanned quickly and did not see anything dependency or security related in the GH dev docs yet. So we may need to use Sourcegraph and Node Security Project or similar if we want those features right away.

rdela commented 7 years ago

Algolia NPM search looks amazing, there is an open issue for security alerts so I could add there or wait for someone else to either way, and later on if people do end up publishing enough client running code to warrant inclusion Shannon could do real tests with live side by side to see if or how people want it.

Seems we could get most everything we need from one source with them, including dependencies, wow.

Here are all our sources:

  • npm registry, example for express: http://registry.npmjs.org/express
  • npm download counts: the npm downloads endpoint
  • Packages’ dependents: the dependents endpoint of npm (there’s no official documentation on that)
  • Changelogs: a clever first resolved, first served list of calls to various ChAnGeloG files, like History.md’s express changelog
  • GitHub Stargazers⭐️, commit activity: we get them on the frontend directly from GitHub using the browser of the person doing a search. This way we benefit from a larger rate limit on GitHub shared amongst all users. This is also what npm search does for opened issues on their detail pages.
  • Browse view: we get this from the unpkg API, which gives us the files, folders and sizes for all published packages

[…]

Building on that we want to add new features like:

Yarn: From Zero to 700,000 User Searches per Month - Milliseconds Matter

So is this something we are ready to start using? Or we are waiting for green light from Algolia?

KyleAMathews commented 7 years ago

We've already got a token so we just have to help Shannon finish the design then someone can start building.

rdela commented 7 years ago

Unreal, that is great news about the token. Shannon have you thought about how we should approach the mobile interface?

shannonbux commented 7 years ago

Ricky, that is a great question--I assumed people wouldn't be searching for plugins via mobile, but I could be wrong! I didn't even ask about that in interviews (classic greenie mistake). Do you think ppl will be searching via mobile a lot? If so, for a mobile interface I'd probably use the middle section of the desktop version as the main dashboard, and then the filters could be a screen that pops up and disappears when you need it to. And then when you click on a particular plugin, the list of plugins would disappear and you'd see an individual plugin's details page.

rdela commented 7 years ago

Occurred to me when I followed js.coach link on my phone. Phone interface there seems shrunken down, like it is zoomed out to me, and touch targets feel small.

I was imagining more or less what Shannon articulated more clearly than I could have. I think what she suggests would work much better and give our interface more breathing room on small screens.

How should we start turning these into browse-able prototypes?

shannonbux commented 7 years ago

Awesome! I can probably get most of the desktop version done by next Wednesday afternoon and have a clickable prototype, and then I will definitely need more feedback on functionality and look and feel. I'm thinking it would be best to get that done and then address mobile after that? @KyleAMathews thoughts on doing mobile first or desktop first?

rdela commented 7 years ago

Also maybe we rename https://github.com/gatsbyjs/gatsby/projects/1 Road to 2.0? …and merge these todos? Or start 2nd one so when other issues come in we can coordinate them with roadmap there?

KyleAMathews commented 7 years ago

Previous issue on this https://github.com/gatsbyjs/gatsby/issues/56

dardub commented 7 years ago

What will the test story be like for community plugins? Can / do we need to display version compatibility?

KyleAMathews commented 7 years ago

What do you mean by "test story"?

dardub commented 7 years ago

@KyleAMathews I mean, what is the process like to verify a community plugin does not break with new gatsby releases?

KyleAMathews commented 7 years ago

Ultimately the responsibility is on the plugin maintainer.

One thing we can do to help out is once I finish the new example site testing tools is that community plugin maintainers can add example sites for their plugins so that the plugin will be tested on every PR to core.

dardub commented 7 years ago

Ya, I think it would be nice if we could show the last gatsby version the plugin passes for. Just thinking about wordpress ecosystem and how frustrating it can be downloading plugins that don't work anymore.

KyleAMathews commented 7 years ago

Yeah totally — perhaps what we could do is highlight plugins which have an example site and say something to the effect that "this plugin is tested against the latest Gatsby" or whatever. I agree that anything we can do to vet plugins will make the ecosystem much more robust and ease a lot of friction around trying/using plugins.

shannonbux commented 7 years ago

Like these ideas. I'm creating a clickable prototype by the end of today. @KyleAMathews, I read the previous issue about starters. Do ya'll think it makes sense to search for starters sort of within the same library? Also, I am looking at a couple other examples of plugin websites that are cool. Microsoft's Visual Code Studio extension library and Sketch Plugin Library. What do you all think of the more visual nature of the plugins (i.e. they all have some sort of icon or something?). If we did include starters with the plugin library, I think the visual emphasis might be awesome.

dardub commented 7 years ago

I like the basic approach of Visual Studio site since it highlights featured and popular plugins but still put's the search at the forefront compared to Sketch where I don't even see a search available.

Edit: What I don't like about VS is that to browse more information about a plugin you have to navigate back and forth between the details page and search results. Which is not a problem with Shannon's wireframe.

Redmega commented 7 years ago

@dardub Sketch needs you to click on "See all" to get the search. Definitely not optimal.

KyleAMathews commented 7 years ago

@shannonbux we can't rely on icons as almost no plugins will have icons. I do like the emphasis on search (though search should start as soon as the user starts typing).

We do want a faceted search however so it's easy to filter/browse by narrowing down scope.

Including starters does make a lot of sense now that you mention it. We're basically creating a marketplace so why not put all addons to Gatsby in one place. One stop shopping :-D

On that note, looking at big software marketplaces would also be a good source for inspiration e.g. Android, iOS, the Mac app store, etc.

shannonbux commented 7 years ago

Great ideas. Also, can you all help me out with some use cases for mobile? I assume most developers aren't trying to install plugins via mobile devices, so what do we need mobile for? Just browsing, sharing URLs w/ people, following updates?

shannonbux commented 7 years ago

Ok everyone. Here's a very basic prototype. The tasks you should try to accomplish here are 1) Try to see more details on the "gatsby-image" plugin. 2) Filter to see only CMS plugins. 3) Then try to get back to the first page you see. I need lots of feedback! https://marvelapp.com/766i07a

Redmega commented 7 years ago

In the "Stuff about the plugin" section, can't we just show the plugins' README.md? Would require less work as it would be up to the plugin authors to keep it up to date.

shannonbux commented 7 years ago

@Redmega yeah, totally agree, great idea!

dardub commented 7 years ago

I think the placement of the "Submit a Plugin" button could lead to some confusion since it's in the section with the faceted navigation. If someone didn't read it too carefully they might assume it's to submit the filters. Just a minor annoyance I know, but still a potential annoyance. It could simply be placed in the welcome screen area.

dardub commented 7 years ago

Sorry... also if we are lumping results of plugins and starters together, there should be something to quickly distinguish it in the results.

I think to get back to the initial page, rather than clicking "Gatsby Library", it might make sense to have a clear all button somewhere (possibly where submit a plugin button currently is).

rdela commented 7 years ago

@shannonbux Once I figured out what you meant, 1, 2, 3 all very easy. Unchecked filter then clicked Gatsby Library to return for 3.

https://npms.io/search?q=gatsby-plugin Is interesting, especially how unstable label shows on hover, for example:

gatsby-source-graphcms@0.0.1 has not reached v1.0.0 yet.

Compare to https://yarnpkg.com/en/packages?q=gatsby-plugin&p=10 for example, with no semver warning.

Nice, subtle touch and maybe something we could draw on for Gatsby version compatibility display and contribute to https://github.com/algolia/npm-search if it is not already a feature.

The way the Yarn search weights popularity seems really helpful for beginners, so think we should definitely configure our index similarly.

Cc @haroenv you have tons of experience with this kind of interface, do you have thoughts for us on prototype? https://github.com/gatsbyjs/gatsby/issues/3003#issuecomment-348005815

shannonbux commented 7 years ago

@dardub yeah, good point. I will think of a way to reset the filters to the initial state, and also a way to delete search terms easily (like an x that appears in the search bar to delete the entire search bar contents).

shannonbux commented 7 years ago

@rdela Thanks for those examples. Definitely seems like the hover thing on npms can open up a lot of white space and make the design look simpler by hiding details and making them available via hovering. Also, thanks for the suggestion of the unstable label and interesting to see how the npms library calculates all its scores: (https://npms.io/about). It seems pretty complex actually--would this be ridiculously difficult to do similar scores? Would it be overkill?

Haroenv commented 7 years ago

The NSP data is almost in the index, I never got time to finish that PR though, if someone of you wants to add that, feel free to get in touch, all data should be in that issue

shannonbux commented 6 years ago

Ok everyone. I've got an updated prototype that is missing some things still. I know it's not perfect (I think everything is too big on it right now). Right now I need feedback on 3 things:

  1. When you select a plugin, is it clear that it's selected?
  2. When you select a plugin, is it clear that the information on the right side of the screen is related to the plugin that you selected?
  3. What seems to be the most important thing on the page? In other words, where do your eyes get drawn to? Do you think something else should be most important?

OK, here's the prototype link: https://marvelapp.com/2f83767

shannonbux commented 6 years ago

After you've clicked thru the prototype in my comment above this one, here are also a few alternative ways of making it clear that a plugin is selected. Lmk if you like one of these better than what's in the prototype:

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dardub commented 6 years ago

I like the changes Shannon!

  1. Yes
  2. A little, some type of small animation could help show content is changing
  3. My eyes are drawn to the list of plugins, search bar is more important

The third proposal is interesting, I like that the title is purple to match the selected plugin. It ties the two together.

shannonbux commented 6 years ago

ok, new prototype that matches GatsbyJS.org's existing style much better! Would love feedback on "filters" and "sort by" and whether the options that appear in those drop-down menus make sense. https://marvelapp.com/3388h43

P.S. I don't know how to use layered images in Marvel, so just a fair warning: my "filters" and "sort by" drop down menus are acting weird and I'm troubleshooting that right now.

rdela commented 6 years ago

So these are my comments on last one

When you select a plugin, is it clear that it's selected?

totally, more so in first one I think

When you select a plugin, is it clear that the information on the right side of the screen is related to the plugin that you selected?

yes, more so in first one I think

What seems to be the most important thing on the page? In other words, where do your eyes get drawn to? Do you think something else should be most important?

pre-selection: Gatsby logo/Welcome! post-selection: Plugin title

I made this last night, kind of a fusion of Gatsby site and early prototypes, have 2x version as well. This was before you added updated version, which I like the look of filter and sort menus and animating down effect despite Marvel weirdness! I used these two icons from Noun Project Sort by Landan Lloyd https://thenounproject.com/search/?q=sort&i=1300795 Checkbox by Curve, FR https://thenounproject.com/parmentiers.joseph/collection/check-checkbox-approved/?oq=checkbox&cidx=2&i=535238

g-library-20171206-1440

shannonbux commented 6 years ago

Nice @rdela , I like the filter and sort icons! And the simplified area above the plugins on the left. What did you build it with? Sketch? I can share files of that if you want to not have to build stuff from scratch

rdela commented 6 years ago

@shannonbux That is Photoshop but want an excuse to work more with Sketch and to explore https://github.com/airbnb/react-sketchapp – bring em on! email me?

Haroenv commented 6 years ago

Oh a small note, there should be a “search by Algolia” somewhere in the UI because it’s a community project, thanks

rdela commented 6 years ago

Like the way Yarn does this (below results pager, above footer): https://yarnpkg.com/en/packages?q=gatsby-plugin&p=1

Search by Algolia - read how it works.

Thanks @Haroenv

rdela commented 6 years ago

About to send the Sketch file back to Shannon, but thought I would share these PNG exports of my attempt to incorporate last round of thoughts.

In addition to the Noun Project icons mentioned above, this design I am calling “Purple Fusion” has a little icon on the landing page I made with EmojiOne notebook with decorative cover version 2.2, which is what I had installed, it has since changed colors in version 3+.

Landing Page

landing page

(Library) Home – UPDATED: fixed off-center logo + Welcome text 📝 home-v2

First Selection

first selection

Second Selection

second selection

Third Selection

third selection

Fourth Selection

fourth selection

rdela commented 6 years ago

Safe to assume differences in text styles (purple/no border-bottom links, no background highlight on code etc.) are not changes I am proposing to current styles but things that I deemed unimportant to review and/or were too difficult or time-consuming for me to reproduce easily in Sketch.

shannonbux commented 6 years ago

I like the illustration! It's fun to feel like there is some personality here. One thing I've noticed is that almost every UX designer wants a visually appealing landing page and a less cluttered search tool, and almost every developer I've gotten feedback from doesn't mention those things and mostly just wants the relevant data about plugins to be easily discoverable. So, all of this is just saying that I like the landing page and it will take some real-life testing to see if it helps or hinders developers using the tool.

And very understandable about fonts. We can just refer to standard Gatsby fonts for consistency. If you send me this file, I'd be happy to turn it into a prototype for one last round of feedback. My goal is to get this ready for coding by mid-January.

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shannonbux commented 6 years ago

Hey all! Here is a checklist for this issue to show how far we are in the UX process (artifacts from all finished items are found earlier in this issue). Please feel free to contribute by either moving down the checklist or suggesting changes to the checklist!

arafalov commented 6 years ago

I am a bit late to the party, but if the Algolia-based search does not work out, I would be happy to assist with Apache Solr version. It has to be hosted somewhere, obviously and is not - without some security hardening - exposable to the network directly (similar to say postgress...).

But I would be happy to teach anybody involved in this project Solr concepts and help doing the field and search mapping.