Improve ' cloth ' and hair simulation . .

[charlesmlamb]

Describe the project you are working on

A Tomb Raider game . .

Describe the problem or limitation you are having in your project

I'm working on a game, and I need really good cloth simulation . . Here . . .

I need a cape, a thin one, slender . . That flows down back of a character, and lands, on the floor, or so . . .

I realize it may be very complicated but, I've seen no ' news ' about, improved cloth simulation, in Godot 4, or Godot 4.1 . . I wanted to ask for better cloth sim, esp. in relation to human characters . . It might be ' technically ' impossible, but was wondering if there had been some recent advancements in the area, real-time stuff, and, not sure, total noob . . it might be easy to add, or so, using recent 'algorithms', math . . I'm looking for a really advanced system, where one can assign different stuff, to points on ' softbody ', for instance, some points won't deform, but only sway, ie. will be static, other parts will be more dynamic . .

Notice, the different nodes have different color, maybe 2 to start with, 4 would be nice, 8 be ' amazing ' . . . .

Idea is, maybe one could make so, one could set ' different ' values, to different parts of the softbody, ie. simulation ' quality ' etc, so some part don't deform, ie. folds in the middle ( the green points . . ), but the one's at the bottom, are more accurately simulated, so one could have ' complex ' softbodies, and optimize the ' distriubtion ' of the simulation . . also, if there were some pre-set one's, like 'sway-nodeform', 'sway-gravity', 'sway-bend-stretch', not sure . . . I realize this may be dumb but, I need this for a game, wanted to ask, sometimes there's some new amazing tech, or 'math' in recent years, that make it possible . . . or, maybe one could have a list of possibilities, like, when one 'paints' the softbody nodes, like

sway On/off bend On/off stretch On/off

And, then one can paint different points, as one needs . . Ideally, one would be able to set a custom value, for some points, for stretch, so on, to get a custom simulation, was thinking it might be possibly to optimize it, or so, by having 4 custom pre-sets, that one could use for each softbody . . .

I'm not really sure what to say, guess I'm thinking 'next - gen' cloth sim, been looking for cloth tutorials and, there are very few good one's, seem Godot can do a 'hanging' tapestry, fairly basic, atm . . After some tests, it's 'really' poor, at least the collision shapes I used did a lot of clipping and, it looked really 'bad', so much I'd not use it, as it is, or so . .

It'd also require some 'advanced' KinematicBody collisionshapes, that would work well, for well, human anatomy . . :OO

Describe the feature / enhancement and how it helps to overcome the problem or limitation

I have a project, where I need this stuff, can always just ' animate ' it in Blender, but it won't have physics, or so . . Wanted to ask, since there are some ' wizards ' here and, amazing tech people, that might know the ' tricks ', so on . . .

Describe how your proposal will work, with code, pseudo-code, mock-ups, and/or diagrams

Well, like above, with an option to do much more ' custom ' softbodies, not sure, if possible . . .

If this enhancement will not be used often, can it be worked around with a few lines of script?

I can't hard-code this, as solo - dev . .

Is there a reason why this should be core and not an add-on in the asset library?

Well, was hoping it might be possible to make the softbody node more ' robust ' or, flexible, etc . . Thx . . . .

[zinnschlag]

Duplicate of #2513 ?

[charlesmlamb]

Ok, made a 'really' cool female Batman, or so . . has a 'small' cape, I'd like to animate really well :OO . . .

I'd like to be able to do something like Batman Arkham City cape . .

well, it was from 2011, Batman Arkham city, was hoping to get some-thing like . . Made a really cool ' character ', on my tablet, can make it into 3D, but REALLY like it, to have nice cloth sim, maybe like the suggestion above, #2513 <3

Idea is, there are ' folds ' at mid - height but, they aren't simulated, beyond gravity, but near the bottom, the folds are accurately simulated . . So, was thinking, if softbody one could select points and, give them different 'properties', ie. no_fold, fold_sim, etc . . .

might be horribly complicated, but there are some crazy talented people here, might be someone, who could code it, in a few days, etc . . Thx <3 . . . I've never coded an engine, have no idea, thx . . .

So, have this amazing idea, I'd like to see it run, also real-time . . really ' hype ' for the character, wanted to ask, no idea, if it's super - complex . . . Thx <3 . . . it's one of those moments, have an amazing idea but, can't make it ' happen ', or so . . . . Maybe there are some next-gen stuff, not sure if cloth sim is getting attention, really ' need ' it, for the character <3 . . . .

I can just 'see' it, so ' cool ' . . . :OO . . . Might be, super - complex . . . :OO . .

Last, when the character is flying or, jumping, I want the cape to be in a ' default ' position, or maybe end up there, 'naturally' . . So, it has a ' signature ' look, like Batman's cape, when during ' glide ' . . . .

[charlesmlamb]

Ok, to keep it short, this is what I need, for the character <3

I'm sort-of wondering, why softbody doesn't do this, already . . . would look super - nice, and help me ' realize ' my character, in BEST way . . .

The last thing is, I'd like it to have a ' default ' position, look a certain way, when moving forward, or after jump, sort of like Batman's cape, becomes a ' certain ' shape, in the air . . . .

Never used cloth simulation before, was thinking maybe one could use multi-threading, to make it faster . . :OO . . .

[Calinou]

Duplicate of https://github.com/godotengine/godot-proposals/issues/2513.