[ FF7 ] Collection of 60FPS bugs/glitches

[tangtang95]

This is the collection of bugs and glitches related to full 60FPS gameplay feature:

• BATTLE mode

  • [x] Gun 2D effect animation (e.g. Barret or enemy gun's attack) does not always happen
  • [x] Softlock in final battle agains Bizzaro Sephiroth (sometimes when a part dies it does not prompt to change party). The solution is to fix menu FPS with another method
  • [x] Moves that inflict Mini status has animation glitch
  • [ ] 2D effects are still running at 15 FPS (i.e. magics, enemy skills, enemy moves, etc.)
    • [x] Material effects running at 15 FPS (e.g. Ice1, Ice2, Ice3, ...)
    • [ ] Particle effects are still running at 15 FPS (e.g. Flamethrower, Sewer, Shiva's particles, ...)
    • [ ] Texture pages are still running at 15 FPS (e.g. Fire texture is not changing at 60FPS). This is not fixable via code, but only by changing texture files (Low priority until particle effects are fixed)
  • [x] Summon's are still running at 15 FPS (Models and camera)
  • [x] Shiva is blinking at the start
  • [x] "Chocobuckle" enemy skill is running at 15 FPS
  • [ ] Confu magic running at 15 FPS
  • [x] Few limit break's camera movement are still at running 15 FPS (Need to specify better)
  • [x] Few enemy's move camera movement are still at running 15 FPS
  • [x] Yellow triangle indicator at the top of the current controlled character is animated too fast [Minor bug]
  • [x] Enemy attacks animation glitches
    • [x] "Goblin punch" enemy skill has animation glitch
    • [x] "Bomb blast" of Bomb remains with black background after the move
    • [x] Death kill animation when countdown of Death sentence finish
  • [x] Status effect animations are too quick (e.g. sleep zzz animation)
    • [x] Confusion
    • [x] Sleep and silence
  • [x] Ground movement (e.g. formation ID 460 elevator battle in Shinra building) is too quick
  • [x] Some battle models that interact with each other has animation glitches (this is due to lost frames during interpolation (Need fix in the IRO))
    • [x] Rufus & Chopper, formation ID 464
  • [x] Pointer indicator for target is animating too quickly when selecting action that targets all enemies or all allies

• FIELD mode

  • [x] Encounter rate too high
  • [x] Model movements done by decreasing the movement speed introduce bugs/softlocks (e.g. Cloud wrong direction in his past, when confronting Sephiroth, or Biggs stuck when retreating from Reactor 5). Need to obtain a way to achieve the same movement as in 30 FPS but with smoother animation and movement
  • [x] Some field objects (e.g. rope, propeller, ...) do not animate correctly because the interpolated animation files are not done
  • [x] Crash after Demon wall boss fight with Cait Sith (bug in wrong offset of opcode)
  • [x] Softlock above train while playing as Cid (map field _zcoal3)
  • [x] Dialog message speed is purposely not fixed since it can be regulated (Minor bug)
  • [x] [Optional fix in IRO] One train in trainyard moves incorrectly the first time used (which caused some strange animation glitch). Found fix only by editing flevel.lgp (flevel fix compatible with original FPS)
  • [x] Parade in Junon has lots of animation glitches (it seems that the main script of each field model is starting too quickly).
  • [ ] Some animation are sped up due to loops inside script flevel.lgp that use variable counter.
    • [x] [Optional fix in IRO] In blin70_2, Cloud and Barret does not face correctly against Palmer (flevel fixable)
    • [x] [Optional fix in IRO] In woa_2 and woa_3, the background animation cover only half of the screen (flevel fixable)
    • [ ] In some other maps, animated textures might run too quickly due to the loops (e.g. lights, cogs, ...)
  • [x] Great Glacier steps before fainting is halved
  • [x] Turn movement (done by opcode TURNGEN 0xB4 and TURN 0xB5) is not fully supported, 7+1 of them cannot be increased further. They require a new variable that is bigger than a byte. Maybe splitting it into two opcode could be a solution (https://picklejar76.github.io/kujata-webapp/field-op-code-details/b4)
  • [x] Background movement is not smooth (unless a new 2D background engine is implemented, it cannot be fixed)
  • [x] Softlock on one of the last area of the game (map _las05). Fixed in canary version

• WORLDMAP mode

  • [x] Encounter rate too high
  • [x] Dialog message speed
  • [x] Weapon cutscene is glitched
  • [ ] Midgar Zolom (a.k.a. Snake) is shorter in length due to movement speed reduced (Minor bug: need to increase the size of the array containing snake positions)

Do not report these following original unmodded FF7 bug:

• Possibility to softlock the player on the edges of first Wutai Bridge. Cannot move the character

Before reporting new bugs/glitches, make sure you are running the latest canary version of FFNx and also the latest 60 FPS IRO mod (force update on catalog and check if there is a new version). Also double check if the bug or glitch is not already in this list

[wonx]

Hi. I'm not sure it's the right place to post it. I noticed my game crashes at the start of a battle on the Junon Airport. It crashes even disabling all other mods. I'm using the mod version 1.01 with FFNx-FF7_1998-v1.10.1.105. I attach the logfile. FFNx.log

[tangtang95]

Hi. I'm not sure it's the right place to post it. I noticed my game crashes at the start of a battle on the Junon Airport. It crashes even disabling all other mods. I'm using the mod version 1.01 with FFNx-FF7_1998-v1.10.1.105. I attach the logfile. FFNx.log

Thanks for reporting. The crash is due to a corrupted interpolated animation file for the Roulette Cannon enemy. The next IRO (probably version 1.02) will contains the correct interpolated animation file.

[MaxVicioOk]

the game does not start even with Directx 12, 9, OpenGL, it has graphic problems with Directx 11 and crash with vulkan, which completely hangs the PC, so I cannot record the screen to show the crash with Vulkan

FFNx (glitch DirectX 12).log FFNx (Glitch OpenGL).log FFNx (Glitch Vulkan).log FFNx (Glitch Directx 11).log

https://youtu.be/S4X_OOUQfY0

[tangtang95]

the game does not start even with Directx 12, 9, OpenGL, it has graphic problems with Directx 11 and crash with vulkan, which completely hangs the PC, so I cannot record the screen to show the crash with Vulkan

FFNx (glitch DirectX 12).log FFNx (Glitch OpenGL).log FFNx (Glitch Vulkan).log FFNx (Glitch Directx 11).log

https://youtu.be/S4X_OOUQfY0

You are using an outdated version of FFNx (it says 1.9.0.208). If you are using 7th heaven you should download the zip that has this prefix "FFNx-FF7_1998".

Also do not post here if it is unrelated to 60 FPS.

[MaxVicioOk]

the game does not start even with Directx 12, 9, OpenGL, it has graphic problems with Directx 11 and crash with vulkan, which completely hangs the PC, so I cannot record the screen to show the crash with Vulkan FFNx (glitch DirectX 12).log FFNx (Glitch OpenGL).log FFNx (Glitch Vulkan).log FFNx (Glitch Directx 11).log https://youtu.be/S4X_OOUQfY0

You are using an outdated version of FFNx (it says 1.9.0.208). If you are using 7th heaven you should download the zip that has this prefix "FFNx-FF7_1998".

Also do not post here if it is unrelated to 60 FPS.

sorry, I saw several posts in discussions or in "issues" and everyone is told to use the official 7th support channel, but I can't find which one it is, I see that there are several of us who can't find that channel. The last thing I ask for is the link where I am allowed to generate a post about this, because I downloaded the FFNx-FF7_1998, I executed the .reg and the exact same thing keeps happening. I'd appreciate it a lot.

sorry for my english, i'm using google translate

[mjmj83]

When I turn on the 60FPS mod the game is running in high speed. I think at least 2-3x the normal speed (I guess x4 the speed: 60 fps = 4 x 15 fps). It happens on my Macbook Pro Max (2021) with Windows 11 on Parallels, so I tried it on my Windows 10 machine (i7-10750H, 32GB, RTX 2070 super). Tried switching between Vulkan, DirectX etc, but.. no change.

Running 7th Heaven v2.3.3.0.

I feel kinda stupid it happens to me, since it happens on both my systems, so it could very well be me. I couldn't find any post on youtube or here mentioning the same issue.

[tangtang95]

Have you downloaded the correct version of FFNx? It has to be the FFNx-FF7_1998 version 1.10.1.120+ You can check your version by enabling show Driver Version in 7th Heaven -> Game Driver -> Advanced. Then run the game and check on the top left the FFNx driver version

[mjmj83]

Yes, that was it! Somehow I previously installed 1.10.1.0. Now with 1.10.1.121 it's running as intended.

This is awesome. Thank you guys soooo much!

[Neffina]

I noticed that when you enter Wall Market, it slows down (camera movement) and when you leave and re-enter, the animation is slowed down

[MaxVicioOk]

Hello. It just happened to me that, in the temple of the elders, after fighting against the wall, Cait Sith enters, speaks a bit and the game crashes. I started to test what mod it could be and I realized that it is for the 60FPS one. I understand that it is a pre-release, I just wanted to let you know in case you hadn't found that glitch.

Another thing that is in sight, but just in case I mention it, is that with the 60fps mod, cloud has his arms further apart than without the mod

FFNx (Glitch cait sith templo ancianos 60FPS).log

[tangtang95]

@MaxVicioOk Thanks for reporting the crash. I already knew about it. You can see that I had already it in the list

For the model that has a different arm position is because the mod isn't fully compatible with 60 FPS mod. The mod needs to add their own interpolated animations for 60 FPS

[YozoraLeonstrife]

Crash in every battle of airport zone of Junon area. I tried without 60 fps mod and work.

[tangtang95]

@YozoraLeonstrife That's probably the crash related to the corrupted animation file of the enemy Roulette Cannon (it will be fixed in next 60 FPS IRO)

[Neffina]

hi for me the 2D effect animation of weapons (e.g. barret or enemy weapon attack) is not always working properly the 2D effect animation still not working ?

[tangtang95]

@Neffina Oh sorry, it's just for my testing build that works because I still haven't published that fix. I'm not keeping a private list, so this reflects more my situation than the public situation. Maybe I should point it out. Let me fix it

[Neffina]

Then I still have the problem after the fight with APS that Aerith wants to run to Cloud to rejoin the group but gets stuck and doesn't go any further

[tangtang95]

@Neffina Are you running a higher version of 1.10.1.120 of FFNx? If you are in discord qhimm, better to start a conversation there

[Neffina]

have the current one on it FFNx-v1.10.1.128

[wonx]

Hi. I noticed an animation speed issue with the 60fps mod. When escaping from the Shinra building, the elevator movement (up and down) during the fight against the two bosses (Hundred Gunner and Heli Gunner) is too fast.

[wonx]

Same with the Midgar Expressway chase. Everything goes twice as fast as it should and the motorbike is too hard to control.

[TheRockstar14]

how can i download the latest version or update my FFNx because all I can find is the 1.10.1.0 and i dont want to risk the canary version

[tangtang95]

@wonx I know about the elevator and I did already wrote that on the list of bugs. While for bike chase, the latest canary FFNx runs the bike chase at 30 fps. So the game is still playable.

@TheRockstar14 if you want to test 60 fps you can only do it by downloading the canary version , as said it's in beta so use it at your own risk

[Neffina]

In the Shinra building on the 66th floor, the movements have a slowdown?

[Neffina]

when you walk past the elevator

[tangtang95]

@Neffina If it's a lag spike in which your FPS drops down then it's usually either because you activated lighting and you are still using the unoptimized version (then try first downloading the latest canary version of FFNx) or you have animated textures on.

[Neffina]

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@Neffina If it's a lag spike in which your FPS drops down then it's usually either because you activated lighting and you are still using the unoptimized version or you have animated textures on.

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[wonx]

@Neffina , I have noticed slowdowns in some floors the Shinra building, but in my ae they were caused by animated textures, not by lightning. So that's another thing to check.

[Neffina]

what is now different in all the videos e.g. Junion airport if you press the switch and shut down you are awake if you move more slowly now what yes to the original yes fixed

[DNewton45]

I seem to be having fairly consistent unhandled exception issues with the FFNx driver, but am uncertain whether it is the 60FPS mod, FFNx, or something else. It's worth mentioning that, prior to using both FFNx and the 60FPS mod, I did not have these issues, so I am fairly confident one or both of these mods are the cause.

The current build I am using is: FFNx driver version 1.10.1.170 (I will likely grab the latest version later today)

My most recent crash happened during the scene that takes place very shortly after Rufus' "death" in Disc 2. I seem to recall that the scene faded to black in preparation to change scene locations from the inside of the Shinra meeting room, back to the party on the Highwind, when the unhandled exception occurred.

I should mention that these exceptions seem to get thrown either when a scene transition occurs (usually after it fades to black and attempt to load the next area) or when it attempts to load an FMV (one example being a crash that happened when I tried to use the lift in Junon that goes up to the upper area. These crashes are not consistent and often occur after about an hour of play and I can usually boot the game back up and continue without the crash happening again.

While reviewing the crash log, I noticed this line: [00329246] TRACE: Exception 0xc0000005, address 0xf3641d7

Below this line, near the bottom of the trace stack, it says this: [00329246] TRACE: 0F3641D7 (FFNx): (filename not available): common_load_texture

Below this it repeatedly says: [00329246] TRACE: 006711F0 (FF7): (filename not available): (function-name not available)

Sandwiched between these lines are these two lines, after which, it repeats the above lines a few more times before the stack ends:

[00329246] TRACE: 0F3B287E (FFNx): (filename not available): field_load_textures_helper [00329246] TRACE: 0F3B26EA (FFNx): (filename not available): field_load_textures

[julianxhokaxhiu]

@DNewton45 Please post the log file instead of guessing what should be posted. This will help to further investigate your own issue. Thanks.

[DNewton45]

@julianxhokaxhiu

No problem, I've attached it here.

FFNx.log

[duke912]

@julianxhokaxhiu

No problem, I've attached it here.

FFNx.log

I started getting random crashes at version 154 (if I remember correctly) and over, fairly easy to replicate for me, just load a save and go to Kalm and enter the houses, pub, etc. The game will crash within a minute or so and, if I enable lightning in ffnx.toml, it's even more unstable and most of the time will crash as I enter Kalm. So I ended up using version 150 and lightning disabled seems to be the most stable way to play with 60fps (as of now at least).

Edit: Only play in DX11, as it is the most stable renderer to use.

[julianxhokaxhiu]

@DNewton45 The issue seems to be unrelated to FFNx and is most probably related to 7th as you're using to load your mods. Please approach the support channels on Discord.

@duke912 Please refrain from such suggestions here. This ticket is about testing 60FPS issues and bugs and in order to provide feedback you MUST be always on the latest FFNx canary version. Anything else is considered off-topic.

[DNewton45]

@julianxhokaxhiu Ah, ok. Apologies for the mistake.

[Aynath]

Hi there, I've been playing with the latest ffNX (252) and 7th Heaven manager 2.3.3.20, the latest up to date. I have a problem regarding the 60 FPS mod, in battles, Cid's attacks' sounds are the same as Cloud's. For some reason if I disable the mod, Cid will have his sounds back. If I enable the mod again, Cid will inherit Cloud's sounds again. I don't know how it is related; I've tried a complete reinstallation but it stills occurs, even with previous FFNX and 7th Heaven versions. I'm surely missing something because it doesn't seem a known bug at all.

More details :

• Cid's normal attacks and Crit attacks, as well as Death Blow play Cloud's normal sound attack.
• When doing a Slash-All attack, Cid's normal sound attack plays, I don't know about Crit attacks though since the sound's cut.
• Limit Breaks seem fine, I only have Boost Jump, Dynamite and Hyper Jump for now.

[julianxhokaxhiu]

@tangtang95 can you please check the issue #429 ? Thank you in advance

[tangtang95]

@tangtang95 can you please check the issue #429 ? Thank you in advance

Seems that its FFNx version is not up to date. He put FFNx: 1.10.1.197+

[MaxVicioOk]

Hello, people. I tell you about this bug that I found. In the northern crater, before Cloud delivers the Black Matter to Sephiroth, you have to go through some air currents, which if the 60FPS mod is activated, the animation of the wind and lightning are accelerated, which makes it difficult to pass . I would pass a video showing it, but it is too heavy for this page. If you need I can pass it on one of the discord channels Sorry for how I write, I'm using the google translator.

[tangtang95]

@MaxVicioOk this issue cannot be solved unless the flevel maps (script of field maps) are retouched. This is already done in 60 fps mod but it has to be activated by double click the mod to go into options and then enable "flevel map fix". However this conflicts with other mods that modify the same map (probably your spanish retranslation mod touches that map)

[ArhumMK]

I apologize if this isn't the right place to ask, but does the hybrid 60fps feature under FFNx function like the PSX original now? (i.e 60fps Battle Menu but 15fps Battles etc) If not, is it being worked on or is the focus complete 60fps right now?

[tangtang95]

@ArhumMK Hybrid 60fps is not being worked on, this is only for complete 60 fps

[ArhumMK]

Are there plans to do so in the near future? Thanks.

[tangtang95]

No, there are no plans for that. It's already too complex as it is

[SquarelyCircle]

I'm getting a graphical glitch that goes away when I turn off the 60FPS Gameplay mod in 7th Heaven.

The backgrounds are drawn with lines/squares on them, which blink in and out of existence. By changing various options, I can slightly modify how the background boxes come and go. By setting to "stretched" instead of 4:3 ratio, I can get them to disappear when I'm not moving, but everything looks really weird when it's stretched, and the lines flash in and out of existence when I walk around.

My monitor is 1440p, which I thought might be related to this. CPU: AMD Ryzen 5950X GPU: GeForce RTX 3080 (can't remember which brand) OS: Windows 11 Running on DX11 Running a variety of other mods that change the graphics.

[SquarelyCircle]

Turning off anisotropic filtering and antialiasing seems to have fixed the issue. Still a strange interaction that only occurs with this mod on.

[tangtang95]

@SquarelyCircle Those lines are a consequence of the implementation of smooth scrolling background. By going from integer values to float values, it introduced bad pixels from the texture when using antialiasing. I don't know if it's possible to fix, but right now the best is to play with no antialiasing and an internal resolution scale that is a power of 2.

[SquarelyCircle]

Thank you for replying. It's refreshing to get a quick reply on an issue like this. I'll follow your instructions.

[LaZar00]

I'm not sure if Reno attack "Pyramid", the purple light is among the battle features of 60FPS, but I think that it should be improved if possible, should it be? https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/46090031/178126108-102f0042-7ccf-4ea9-a970-b72c14cb034d.mp4

[tangtang95]

@LaZar00 The remaining battle effects require too much work, there are some that has too many particles and cannot be easily interpolated. I don't know if this purple light is one of them, but from the video, it seems fine to me

[LaZar00]

I understand that 60FPS is not an easy thing and a lot of RE needs to be done to achieve that.

But in this case, the purple circle seems not enough smooth when talking about 60FPS. Of course it is shown correctly, there are not problems at all, I only was suggesting an improvement if possible.