PCB orders and status

[eabase]

I would love to order a PCB with all the components already included and placed.

1. What is the current design status of PCB?
2. From where can we order these PCB's?
3. Can they get both made and populated?

[jmorris644]

I placed an order for 5 in the US. I only want 2 to begin with. If someone else wants any, cost ($37) + local shipping.

[Uriziel01]

@jmorris644 Cool! @ezerez Are you still willing to order 5 for us in the EU? 😊

[dwyschka]

Would take 2 if somebody orders to germany / europe :D

[DanielHabenicht]

I updated the table in my comment above. If anybody wants to order I am fine with up to 35$ (+ local shipping).

[nyok92]

Willing to buy 2 board from someone if they want to PM me please (Europe/France). Thanks

[LordNex]

Was planning on just doing an order for USA and then shipping to the local folks. I got a quote that total would be around $159. The BoM keeps chamgingndue to the availability of chips. So far I think I have enough people to cover 10 (has to be ordered in bundles of 5) so if we get more people in the USA who's interested and we get the number to 15. I can try another quote

Personally due to shipping charges. Any European individuals would probably be better to form their own group for local dispersal of the boards.

[LordNex]

If someone else with more experience with PCbWay would like to take over please be my guess. Im using my common sense about electrical circuits and trying to get the BOM down. I haven't checked yet today but they were supposed to modify my order for 10. Once I get a look at that ill know a better over all cost. Well take the combined cost to get them to me or whoever what's to be the person ok in charge. Then I'd say each person is responsible for paying their way to have it shipped from me to them. You guys make the call

[dwyschka]

I updated the table in my comment above. If anybody wants to order I am fine with up to 35$ (+ local shipping).

Is there any ETA, when you start ordering?

[bigonionbots]

Was planning on just doing an order for USA and then shipping to the local folks. I got a quote that total would be around $159. The BoM keeps chamgingndue to the availability of chips. So far I think I have enough people to cover 10 (has to be ordered in bundles of 5) so if we get more people in the USA who's interested and we get the number to 15. I can try another quote

I'm in the US and would be interested in two boards (unless that $159 price is for one!) if that helps with moving the total to 15.

[DanielHabenicht]

I updated the table in my comment above. If anybody wants to order I am fine with up to 35$ (+ local shipping).

Is there any ETA, when you start ordering?

I am just updating the table out of courtesy. I would order as soon as my cart in pcbway is under 35$ (but that has not happened yet, they did not even update it after I specified I want exactly the same parts...). I just wanted to confirm to anybody that I would take a PCB so anybody who orders knows I'd take a PCB for this price.

[LordNex]

For USA people I have a discussion going and an invoice that should keep everything to about $35-40 shipped. Currently I'm wanting between 4-5 so the BOM is for 10 pieces

[bigonionbots]

I updated the table in my comment above. If anybody wants to order I am fine with up to 35$ (+ local shipping).

Is there any ETA, when you start ordering?

I am just updating the table out of courtesy. I would order as soon as my cart in pcbway is under 35$ (but that has not happened yet, they did not even update it after I specified I want exactly the same parts...). I just wanted to confirm to anybody that I would take a PCB so anybody who orders knows I'd take a PCB for this price.

Might want to shift me to the US list. I'm not in Europe. Thanks!

[SurgeHawk]

In the process of ordering 5 for myself. But the SK6812MINI-E is out of stock and they only have SK6812MINI-EA. The mounting position of the LED would be different due to the pins being bent. Would this cause any issues that anyone is aware of?

SK6812MINI-EA will put the LED further away from the fabric cover, sticking above the PCB I could see they they could use SK6812MINI-EB that would put the LED closer to the fabric cover.

[pl0ink]

I don't think you would have clearance issues with the EA version, the distance to the speaker would allow for it. You could probably also get away with the EB version, as the E version is flat with the PCB. The EB version would stick a little through the hole in the PCB. It seems big enough. (I think they cut those square holes manually anyway)

I would be more worried about the length the legs need to be in order to reach the soldering pads. (see picture)

[SurgeHawk]

I don't think you would have clearance issues with the EA version, the distance to the speaker would allow for it. You could probably also get away with the EB version, as the E version is flat with the PCB. The EB version would stick a little through the hole in the PCB. It seems big enough. (I think they cut those square holes manually anyway)

I would be more worried about the length the legs need to be in order to reach the soldering pads. (see picture)

@pl0ink

I went ahead and ordered 5 with the EA. They are also swapping the "ABM11-40.000MHZ-12-B1U-T3" for "Q22FA12800332" I looked at the data sheet and it looks to be the same specs, so hopefully everything works.

[lubbertkramer]

I just got a quote back from PCBWay and they dont seem to have changed anything on the BOM. Do you have to check the components one by one if there was a change or do they remark when they dont have something in stock? Duty pre paid to Germany would be 244 USD for 5.

You have to look into the BOM Excel they provide (under "Quoted BOM" Button). It is not displayed in the UI if they change something. If there are no entries in the "Actual Purchase Mfg Part#" Column then they used exactly the specified components. That's at least what I hope (I have no experience with ordering these).

If we are getting more and more people it should probably get cheaper...

America:

User Quantity LordNex 5 dpetrillo740 1 qnlbnsl 1? bedbug1226 5 dwyschka 2 MarcusAlbon 2 PlanetSmasher 1 don86nl 1 rosscullen 2 nyok92 2 SUM 21 (22?) Europe:

User Quantity DanielHabenicht 1-2 jwhengeveld 1-2 Uriziel01 1 don86nl 1 TheZoker 1 ezerez 1 MarcusAlbon 2 bigonionbots 2 SUM 10-12 jmorris644 -5

Still room to add an order from the Netherlands? :)

[LordNex]

I have a small group of 10 boards about ready to be put into production here for the US. I origionally quoted 5 and that order ate my $30 reduced build fee. So I had to go back and delete that order and I'm waiting to hear back to see if they will still honor the $30 build fee.

Another question is we have the option of using other ESP32 MoCs. My BoM is currently built on the ESP32-S3R6 unit I believe but I thought I read somewhere here that the ESP32-IDF would be a better board. I wasn't sure and they didn't know if it would raise or lower the cost so I referenced a few discussions here and told them to build exactly as they have been for other users. Hopefully we'll get something usable for under $40 a board. If anyone wants to go on my list we would probably need to either scrap the first order and put in another order for 15. I was planning on paying for getting the 10 I had planned to myself and then it'll be first come first serve. Technically I only need 4 but could possibly use 5, but I'd be happy to go down to 4 to get these into peoples hands. If it works well I might try seeing if I can find a quantity of DoA Googles and then just build, flash, test, and resell at a small markup. If anyone wants in on this id be happy to partner up. I have a feeling as these going more and more unusable, and prebuilt flashed board or complete unit might just compete with the Muse LUX not to mentioning repurposing good equipment there by reducing the carbon footprint of the whole "planned obsolescence " that Google, Apple, and most manufacturers seem to this is sustainable.

[renini]

Netherlands +5 for me if we end up doing a group buy

[rosscullen]

I just got a quote back from PCBWay and they dont seem to have changed anything on the BOM. Do you have to check the components one by one if there was a change or do they remark when they dont have something in stock? Duty pre paid to Germany would be 244 USD for 5.

You have to look into the BOM Excel they provide (under "Quoted BOM" Button). It is not displayed in the UI if they change something. If there are no entries in the "Actual Purchase Mfg Part#" Column then they used exactly the specified components. That's at least what I hope (I have no experience with ordering these). If we are getting more and more people it should probably get cheaper... America: User Quantity LordNex 5 dpetrillo740 1 qnlbnsl 1? bedbug1226 5 dwyschka 2 MarcusAlbon 2 PlanetSmasher 1 don86nl 1 rosscullen 2 nyok92 2 SUM 21 (22?) Europe: User Quantity DanielHabenicht 1-2 jwhengeveld 1-2 Uriziel01 1 don86nl 1 TheZoker 1 ezerez 1 MarcusAlbon 2 bigonionbots 2 SUM 10-12 jmorris644 -5

Still room to add an order from the Netherlands? :)

Swap me to a Europe order!

[don86nl]

Just the Europe order for me please. (I see Im listed in both, Eu and US, somehow)

[LordNex]

I'm waiting on some stock to sell, takes 2 days due to SEC regulations. But once I have that in the right place I'll be putting in an order for 10. I'll pay the cost up front and anyone that wants to pay for shipping and handling to them can. Not sure about where regulation wise I can ship too outside of the states but if it's legal and you want to pay the cost to get one back across the pond just let me know. I'll try and keep my order discussion updated as I can. Still waiting to hear back from PCBWay on their $30 build too. I originally had an order for 5, then told them I wanted 10 so they created a whole new order without the discounts seeing this is my first time buying from them. But I'm betting on them letting it go at that so with that and the BoM we should be right about $32 a board my cost minus shipping. Then of course you'll have to pay to have them delivered from the states to where ever you are.

And again, I make no warranty or promise that any of this will work. I'm hoping they have everything they need to understand the project and go forward with it. I'll be happy to help where I can, but that's all I'll be able to do.

[wriede]

Did anyone get asked to confirm the orientation of the LED Diodes? They asked me - see also issue 34. Is this right?

[nyok92]

Swap me to a Europe order too :)

[LordNex]

@justLV I was origionally going to put in an order for 10 but I don't know what happened to my discussion on here. I noticed you said that you are now crowd purchasing them for us so we don't each have to go through PCBWay. Can you add my list to whatever one you have for the US? I'm down with 4-5 boards. I should have the cash ready for up to 10 boards in a day or two here.

How would you like to handle this. I can just pay for mine via Apple Pay if needed unless you happen to have something setup already. Just seems like we're all a bit confused by PCBWay and the engineering questions. I would feel much more comfortable if you were the one with the design and I just bought from you.

[LordNex]

I just got a quote back from PCBWay and they dont seem to have changed anything on the BOM. Do you have to check the components one by one if there was a change or do they remark when they dont have something in stock? Duty pre paid to Germany would be 244 USD for 5.

You have to look into the BOM Excel they provide (under "Quoted BOM" Button). It is not displayed in the UI if they change something. If there are no entries in the "Actual Purchase Mfg Part#" Column then they used exactly the specified components. That's at least what I hope (I have no experience with ordering these).

If we are getting more and more people it should probably get cheaper...

America:

| User | Quantity|

|--------|--------|

| LordNex| 5 |

| dpetrillo740 | 1 |

| qnlbnsl | 1? |

| bedbug1226 | 5 |

| dwyschka | 2 |

| MarcusAlbon | 2 |

| PlanetSmasher | 1 |

| don86nl | 1 |

| rosscullen | 2 |

| nyok92 | 2 |

| lubbertkramer | 1 |

| renini | 5 |

| SUM | 27 (28?) |

Europe:

| User | Quantity|

|--------|--------|

| DanielHabenicht | 1-2 |

| jwhengeveld | 1-2 |

| Uriziel01 | 1 |

| don86nl | 1 |

| TheZoker | 1 |

| ezerez | 1 |

| MarcusAlbon | 2 |

| bigonionbots | 2 |

| SUM | 10-12 |

| jmorris644 | -5 |

I think we're all reinventing the wheel here for every order. Let's get one large order, split it between the EU and US if you want.

I have 10 in my cart I'm waiting on but if @justLV is crowdsourcing the purchases, I have no problem going that way to support his development time with all this.

[K3kouse]

France +3 for me if the Group Buy is still open :)

[LordNex]

Well I heard back that they will not honer the $30 build process so the cost has jumped unpredictability. I'm dropping my list at this point. If someone gets 4-5 of these into the US please feel free to contact me sndnill take some off your hands. If @justLV has a way to crowdsource and make a few bucks for his work. I'm happy to pay that. But I aint going to be raked through the coals on my first order with a Chinese company. With the way the world is politically. I wouldnt put it past them to slip in a chip giving them a back door. God knows we do it to others.

[LordNex]

Any staying In the US want to get behind this? I have the funds to handle to up front. But we'll have to break the cost up a bit for each person depending on shipping. I'm doing this at no benifit to myself so again please speak up

If @justLV or anyone else in this chain has a better idea, I'm open to options. Honestly I have no problem with @justLV making a little profit for his effort for us all. I just have no idea what the group wants.

So I'll give it a day or two and if we don't come to a consensus. I'll just buy the lot. But purchase after that will come with a markup. So if you want it for cost. Here's your chance on 5-6 boards unless someone already has a better idea in the mix

[LordNex]

Actually I just checked. The funds are in the right place. Should I order or does @justLV or anyone have something better?

[DanielHabenicht]

Sorry for the confusion with the table, editing from mobile is quite confusing. I put in an excel now and you can add yourself: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12665xjQDnMFgY-_ZgX68pbzb8GG_iQU4DQ2IfGRLkJY/edit?usp=sharing

[LordNex]

Ice been having issues as well. I can't tell if my posts are going through to anyone or not.

If they are and just bonone wants to join in an order. I'm just going to drop it all, start a new PCBWay account and try a different team. Who ever I have as an engineer from them are morons. Apparently it's a huge company split between a sales person and and engineer. Everything was set to go when, just to make sure they had everything they might need, sent them the other engineering questions and answers from other people.

I basically got back, in broken English email, what sounds to me that the engineer doesn't have the skill to build this. My answer, your a company, transfer it to someone who's done it before.

I'm not holding my breath on a discernable answer that isn't written in ZingBats

[Uriziel01]

Thanks @DanielHabenicht

And now when the project got featured at HA live stream... do we have anyone willing to do a group order in Europe? We have buyers for like 25-28 boards now, which is a crazy number considering the price and logistics, congrats😯

[LordNex]

So is what about the US. What’s the word there. I was going to do one for people but I haven’t heard. I thought I see a an email where @justLV said he was going to crowed source some which I’d rather do for one, because he’ll know the right options, and two, I see no problem in paying him something for his time and effort.

So what’s the plan, does anyone but me have anything started. I keep getting cryptic info back from PCBWay which makes me more nervous putting up the funds to cover 10 without more serious backers. So unless I'm missing something, does anyone know any status on any Crowdsourcing or the USA order?

[jmorris644]

Did anyone get asked to confirm the orientation of the LED Diodes? They asked me - see also issue 34. Is this right?

I received 5 and they all tested out. Yes, this looks the same as mine.

[LordNex]

Does anyone in the US have any boards for sale? Or does anyone have a working unit that could provide the correct info needed to provide PCBWay to get a small amount manufactured? I'll buy 4-5 myself. 5 obviously if I need to go through PCBWay?

[JWhitleyWork]

I have added myself to the list and would also be willing to order in the US if we need more to be distributed.

(PS, I'll be testing this on both 1st and 2nd gen devices and might make a version for the pineapple)

[LordNex]

I have added myself to the list and would also be willing to order in the US if we need more to be distributed.

(PS, I'll be testing this on both 1st and 2nd gen devices and might make a version for the pineapple)

Apparently my account was marked as spam so all of what I took the time to setup for the USA order is pretty much dead now. With Christmas here I took the money and bought new level 4 Spartan Body Armor/Plate System supposedly able to withstand M855 all the way to 30.06 AP rounds up to 6 times.

I'd still be up to by a board for testing if someone what's to put in an order though.

I've kind of moved on and went testing using the Muse Luxe. I have an M5Stack on the way that I might just turn into a bad add retro/tech wrist watch with direct access to Home Assistant. The trick I'm looking for those is being able to have some form of intent and indexing going on through Pinecone. I've been successful though in building out the muse, so practically any ESP32 chip with enough power and a mic and speaker. The M5stack system is nice because as it says, everything just "stacks" together with that ESP32 at its heart. Need a PoE breakout, click magnetically attached. Don't want to have it plugged in? Click 1400mah battery. Want a Radio/Feq scanner. They even have. Several different pre-maid watches that have a button you can tap and tell HA what to do.

Problem comes when you want to be able to do the same thing securely away from your home. Personal VPNs work on but depending on your ISP you may or not be able to forward ports. So having a Nabu.Casa account really helps out with all of its proxy features that handle a very secure, they can't even see it unless you let them, remote connection to your Home Assistant via a watch, FOB, or "Star Trek" badge.

It would be nice to get the googles working without much reliance but Assist makes it pretty easy to connect the assistant to any of main 3 securely. If they still honor my cart they were set for 10 @ $30.65 shipping to me from China. But then I got wondering if some of these new chipsets wouldn't do a lot better, like as the S3 or S6 chipset. And I don't care how you sleep it, a base 4meg ESP32 will struggle with ESProxy

[don86nl]

Sorry for the confusion with the table, editing from mobile is quite confusing. I put in an excel now and you can add yourself: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12665xjQDnMFgY-_ZgX68pbzb8GG_iQU4DQ2IfGRLkJY/edit?usp=sharing

Nice, thanks Daniel. I was in that list twice, but edited the list (and optreden for 2 now). Is it an option if we pay up front to someone, si ce it's such a big order now? Im not entirely certain how/which components etc to select and order, else I would do it.

[LordNex]

Sorry for the confusion with the table, editing from mobile is quite confusing. I put in an excel now and you can add yourself: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12665xjQDnMFgY-_ZgX68pbzb8GG_iQU4DQ2IfGRLkJY/edit?usp=sharing

Nice, thanks Daniel. I was in that list twice, but edited the list (and optreden for 2 now).

Is it an option if we pay up front to someone, si ce it's such a big order now? Im not entirely certain how/which components etc to select and order, else I would do it.

Updated my availability in the sheet. But I've spent more on this than I wanted to already. Doesn't matter because since my account is marked as spam no one will see this anyway

[adoucette]

Thank you for putting together the list Daniel. Added to the North America sheet.

[don86nl]

I am willing to make an order for the European lost. I do however wish to ask for a small deposit beforehand since it is a large amount. If you are willing to do so, Ill ask 10 Euro per unit in advance and send another quote later when the items have arrived, inclusief shipping to your address (from the Netherlands). Total would be pcb, assembly, shipping to EU, import tax, shipping to you.

If you wish to participate, you can email me te_dick@hotmail.com. Please inclusief your Github username (same as used in the excel sheet) and amount of units you'd like. I can receive PayPal transfers or bank transfers.

Ill order on Sunday 7th of January.

[TheZoker]

@don86nl Do you have a rough idea, how much the final price per unit will be (including shipping, tax, etc.)?

[don86nl]

@don86nl Do you have a rough idea, how much the final price per unit will be (including shipping, tax, etc.)?

Im not sure, depends on a lot of factors, but for 20 units: PCBWay $350,- (shipping not included) Taxes approx 73,50-108,50 (21-31% taxes) Total: +/- $400 = 20,- per unit + shipping to EU (from PCBWay) +shipping to you

This is just a calculation, could be more.. Would be my first order there and first order from the US in a long time, so...

[LordNex]

@don86nl Do you have a rough idea, how much the final price per unit will be (including shipping, tax, etc.)?

Im not sure, depends on a lot of factors, but for 20 units:

PCBWay $350,- (shipping not included)

Taxes approx 73,50-108,50 (21-31% taxes)

Total: +/- $400 = 20,- per unit + shipping to EU (from PCBWay) +shipping to you

This is just a calculation, could be more.. Would be my first order there and first order from the US in a long time, so...

I can tell you the cart I built giving them what was there. I was able to get the price of 10 units, shipped to me in the states and ready to install, was going to be $300.56 total which broke down to $30.06 per unit not including what it would then cost me to ship it to you as well. I had everything ready to go before xmass but then I got banned from here and no one heard any of my replies. I don't know if they would even still honor that now or if the price would change.

That was going to be the USA order as I have 4 mini's I'd like to replace with possibly adding an another one. But since I never heard back from anyone as a commitment because I didn't know my account had a problem. I let the matter drop as it seemed others were taking up the matter. I added my name to the USA section of the Google doc that was created and waited.

While I did I had a Muse Luxe sitting around I thought I'd play with and was able to get it to partially work with the voice pipeline, although it wasn't as accurate as I'd like and I had to utilize a lot of NabuCasa to get it to function. Mainly I think because with Starling I'm double NAT'd with CGNAT and only have publicly accessible IPv6 addresses.

My whole goal was and has been to configure OpenAI, MindsDB as a DB source, and Pinecone as an index or for the entities and intentness for the LLM. But could only go so far with the Muse Luxe as I believe it to be somewhat weak in those areas and isn't really powerfull enough.

One of my questions that never probably got through was weather we should utilize the ESP32 S3 V8 chip or something with more power and made more directly for this. I was also going to purchase a M5 stack unit with external battery and use it as a kind of "Star Trek: TNG" style communicator either next to my  Watch, or a different way to connect it. The one thing I like about the M5's are the modularity as it utilizes parts like LEGO attachments for prototyping.

For any of those who actually HAVE A RUNNING Google Mini with this chip layout i would love to know your experience with it and how well it takes the entire Wyoming Pipeline and how you are handing your intents.

I spent a lot at xmass and I still need to get a new Laptop or PC for myself as mine are on thier last legs, so I've decided to hold back on making and major purchase or being the front man with the money anymore for the USA side of this. You can thank GitHub for their horrible moderation without RTFM and whoever decided to mark me as spam for that. I've never engaged in that minus trying to help people or get help.

I am sometimes long winded, but I'd argue I'm not advertising and my communication are all on point with the direction of the thread i post in. At this point, unless someone can show more proof of a workable model. I would feel better just getting one and testing it out first. Tech changes fast and PCBWay isn't the easiest to deal with. So I don't want to be stuck with $300 of metal snd silicon that no one wants or is going to use.

But like I said above. The best price per PCB I could get was for 10 build units shipped to me. I would have paid the cost up front and asked you to pay for just the cost of what I paid to have them built and shipped to me spread equally. Then each individual paying for their part to be shipped from me to them inside the USA.

I really hope someone else picks this up as I'd love to test it out. But I've lost some faith in GitHub as a community and am no longer willing to shoulder to the load.

[adoucette]

Sounds like there may be some reasonable questions about mitigating risk for the purchaser (lots of money!) and each member of a group order (price? guaranteed delivery?). Is there a way to do the order(s) with protections for all? Like escrow? Or using PayPal with "buyer protection"? These services may add a small commission but may provide enough mutual reassurance to help effect orders.

[JWhitleyWork]

I'm OK making the order up-front and assuming the risk. I will try to put together the order tomorrow. Should I do this just for the US orders or the EU orders as well? I will also look into something like massdrop but if that doesn't work out, I will just contact people directly.

[don86nl]

Sorry to hear about your experience, @LordNex . I didnt know you got reported.

As for the group buy, yes theres some risk for all of us there... I guess the simplest safe way is to buy if yourself..

Heres a nice video showing the installation and usage of onju voice in HA: https://youtu.be/xQqhqGd14YY?si=XOn4WCprAPcnr6DH

EU order currently at 9 units including my own.

[LordNex]

Sorry to hear about your experience, @LordNex . I didnt know you got reported.

As for the group buy, yes theres some risk for all of us there... I guess the simplest safe way is to buy if yourself..

Heres a nice video showing the installation and usage of onju voice in HA: https://youtu.be/xQqhqGd14YY?si=XOn4WCprAPcnr6DH

EU order currently at 9 units including my own.

It's not your fault or anyone in this group. Something completely unrelated. But it severely impacted my ability to try and help front some of the cost while I could to get these in the US.

At this point I'd be willing to pick one up if you get some here. Apple Pay has always worked good for situations like this and don't cost an arm and a leg just to send someone money securely. If you're able and willing to do so that is.

If I can get the first one working and doing what we all hope for. I'd be willing to invest a little bit and see what we can put together for the Home Assistant community. I'm not looking to get rich or anything. But I hate the idea of planned obsolescence and Google is the worse at sustainability.

But yes everything I've seen no matter how you cook it seems to arrive about $30-$32 per board shipped from China to one individual. It would then take that individual time to unpack, organize with people interested in buying, and then repackage and ship to that individual who is then buying from that person.

If USPS standard box shipping is used, the price isn't too bad to ship anywhere in the upper 48. Never looked or had a need to ship to Alaska or Hawaii so I don't know what that would entail.

Honestly, IMHO, I think a few of us here should decide to take lead and see what we can do together. I'm more of the tech side. Been in IT for almost 25 years now with a wide background of stomping out whatever fire presented itself that day. At heart I'm a problems solver who has a love/hate relationship with problems. But once it's in my head, I can't get it out until it's solved. So I'm down for that. Not afraid of electricity with a multimeter or a solder gun. And I can build huge IT infrastructures from the floor up.

Lately I've had some RL issues that have taken most of my time and resources, and after the little games that occurred, I just don't find myself really desiring to do the full commitment I originally began. I've had some time to do some testing with a Muse Luxe and have had very mixed results from the voice pipeline. Primarily doing any form of indexing and then storing those indexes in a database where the LLM of OpenAI's pipeline can access it. I don't consider myself a programmer by any means. But it is something I've been trying to get better at and am learning more and more each day

But I think Home Assistant calling 2023 the "Year of the Voice" is a little premature.

They have the cement mix and rebar on site, but forgot to find a water source to put it all together. So one to hack on and I think we should look at getting to most powerful ESP chip with the most memory available in the thing. I've built a few devices with sensors and simple coded sensors don't phase them. But add in any wireless or Bluetooth and you'll quickly start to run out of memory and unstable connections.

I think my quote was for an ESP32-S3-R6 or R8. But I'm sure there are people who understand that chipset far better than I do. Thanks for reaching out @don86nl it's nice to hear a voice in the dark after so long.

[bobzer]

Hi,

I just received 5 cards for a total of 45CAD each, I need to test if I'll will be able to make them work in the home mini (1st gen). I guess it could works but not have the time to try to put it back together, anyway the 2 first card that i configure works well. (not a huge fan of the sensibility of the wake word, but it's already better than the esp32-s3-box3, sound is better too). So I'll keep you updated in any case, but if you're interested for a few card (I might have 1-3 available depending on my test result). I'm in montreal, QC CA For me the experience with pcbway went really well. if many people want to actually buy card i could be ok to resell them (if that could help)

[LordNex]

Hi,

I just received 5 cards for a total of 45CAD each, I need to test if I'll will be able to make them work in the home mini (1st gen). I guess it could works but not have the time to try to put it back together, anyway the 2 first card that i configure works well. (not a huge fan of the sensibility of the wake word, but it's already better than the esp32-s3-box3, sound is better too).

So I'll keep you updated in any case, but if you're interested for a few card (I might have 1-3 available depending on my test result). I'm in montreal, QC CA

For me the experience with pcbway went really well. if many people want to actually buy card i could be ok to resell them (if that could help)

What ESP chipset did you decide on?