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Great catch @branscombj with regard to the blue bar titles! @AnnHier Session 1, Session 2, Session 3, Session 11 and Session 12 all have Psychotherapy appearing in the blue bar at the bottom of the screen from about 07 to 12 seconds into each of these videos. @branscombj notes no blue bar should appear but if the blue bars are going to be appear for consistency, I believe they should have the title of the session.
@lzim @dlkibbe @TomRust @dlounsbu @AnnHier My vote is no on blue bars for the 1-4, 11-12 videos because they have the title slide up front. I would actually prefer for the sessions 5-10 title slides to indicate which module they are and not use the blue bar after the presenters start - but I can live with the blue bar solution.
Great catch @branscombj with regard to the blue bar titles! @AnnHier Session 1, Session 2, Session 3, Session 11 and Session 12 all have Psychotherapy appearing in the blue bar at the bottom of the screen from about 07 to 12 seconds into each of these videos. @branscombj notes no blue bar should appear but if the blue bars are going to be appear for consistency, I believe they should have the title of the session.
@lzim @dlkibbe @TomRust @dlounsbu @AnnHier My vote is no on blue bars for the 1-4, 11-12 videos because they have the title slide up front. I would actually prefer for the sessions 5-10 title slides to indicate which module they are and not use the blue bar after the presenters start - but I can live with the blue bar solution.
Thanks, @branscombj - @lzim, since you have the title slides, I'll let you decide - is there a way for you to add the topics of each module to the slide themselves so modules 5-10 don't have to use the blue bar solution?
Thanks!
@branscombj -- I'll email you the "Pause for..." times table for all the Session 9 videos today.
@branscombj -- I'll email you the "Pause for..." times table for all the Session 9 videos today.
@TomRust OK - or paste it here, thanks!
@branscombj
Session 9 | Action | Time Stamp |
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Care Coordination (CC) | Pause and open the session guide at mtl.how | 0:46 |
CC | Pause and log in at mtl.how/sim | 2:21 |
CC | Pause and type your Question and Hypothesis in the text boxes | 24:51 |
CC | Pause, study the results and type your Findings | 29:35 |
Psychotherapy (PSY aka “Cut1”) | Pause and open the session guide at mtl.how | 0:28 |
PSY | Pause and log in at mtl.how/sim | 1:39 |
PSY | Pause and review the distribution of your own patients’ engagement patterns | 12:00 |
PSY | Pause and type your Question in the text box | 14:12 |
PSY | Pause and type your Hypothesis in the text box | 16:41 |
PSY | Pop-up: “Make sure to double check your sliders before you click Run!” | 17:43 |
PSY | Pop-up: “Actually, more than 4.15 patients are ending psychotherapy each week…Can you find the other ending rates in the Model Diagram? | 19:21 |
PSY | Pause, study the results and type your Findings | 24:52 |
Medication Management (MM) | Pause and open the session guide at mtl.how | 0:20 |
MM | Pause and log in at mtl.how/sim | 2:17 |
MM | Pause and type your Question in the text box | 16:24 |
MM | Pop-up: “He means the top of the data table.” | 19:25 |
MM | Pause and type your Hypothesis in the text box | 33:13 |
MM | Pause, study the results and type your Findings | 39:43 |
Suicide Prevention (SP) | Pause and open the session guide at mtl.how | 0:26 |
SP | Pause and log in at mtl.how/sim | 1:40 |
SP | Pause and type your Question in the text box | 15:35 |
SP | Pause and type your Hypothesis in the text box | 19:41 |
SP | Pause, study the results and type your Findings | 27:40 |
Aggregate (AGG) | Pause and open the session guide at mtl.how | 0:49 |
AGG | Pause and log in at mtl.how/sim | 4:17 |
AGG | Pause and type your Question in the text box | 9:12 |
AGG | Pause and type your Hypothesis in the text box | 27:50 |
AGG | Pause, study the results and type your Findings | 36:21 |
Great catch @branscombj with regard to the blue bar titles! @AnnHier Session 1, Session 2, Session 3, Session 11 and Session 12 all have Psychotherapy appearing in the blue bar at the bottom of the screen from about 07 to 12 seconds into each of these videos. @branscombj notes no blue bar should appear but if the blue bars are going to be appear for consistency, I believe they should have the title of the session. @lzim for sessions 2 and 3 titles, do you want a hyphen in "user-interface" as it currently appears or "user interface" with no hyphen.
@dlkibbe no hyphen, I introduced this error (I think) somewhere along the way, but I looked into standard style and "user interface" no hyphen is used. We changed it on the title slides here: https://github.com/lzim/teampsd/tree/master/resources/title_slides
Thanks!
@branscombj & @lzim -- I've got two suggestions for popups for MM Session 8:
28:50 -- If your dynamic hypothesis includes any ideas about the new patient start rates changing, then you need to turn the team data for new patient start rates "off," so that they won't be held at the historic median values, but will instead be allowed to respond to the changes you've made to the experiment sliders." 34:01 -- In this experiment, because the team data on new patient start rates was left "on," all changes to those rates are from the model starting to set start rates based on those data in Week 0, in place of start rates based on slot availability (i.e., the team only starts a new patient after all existing patients are seen each week). If you don't believe me, then compare these start rates to the results from the base case (session 7).
@AnnHier @dlkibbe @lzim @TomRust @dlounsbu I'm replacing the table I had posted with just the 3 EDIT rows for Ann. I will re-post the pop-ups table when it's completed.
05 PSY | EDIT | Video doesn’t show LZ logging into mtl.how/sim (Sim UI) | 3:40 | |
---|---|---|---|---|
08 PSY | EDIT | ADD Screen Shot LZ reviewing file name | 28:13 (15 seconds) | |
08 AGG | EDIT | Show LZ typing in Hypothesis box so viewer can see the text and do the action below | 16:15-16:26 |
Session 4: Does it make sense to suggest viewers pause and complete the mtl menu (e.g. at 3:43) if they haven't? (If the viewer is part of a team, will submitting the form return their personalized team summary results as shown in the video? ... Or, at the end after mentioning the tt report that goes out after session 4, could have a pop-up saying to open and review the team's menu results in that if they have it.
@staceypark @lzim Can you tell me how the mtl menu works - if someone's watching the video of session 4 and they missed their team meeting, if they just go to mtl.how/menu, it won't "know" what team they're on, so the survey app won't combine their responses with their team's and show that for them, will it? What do you recommend as I'm thinking through popups for session 4? Thanks!
Finally, the graphic explaining the "Do/Done."
My suggestions on this one (@lzim @dlkibbe @staceypark please yay, nay, or revise these points): a) Make the text generic: The PSY module is shown, but this session's Done/Do Review is the same for all modules. b) Don't use a person's picture - instead make it like the blue bar that appears at the beginning of each 5=10 session to identify the module. c) Put it in all sessions 5-10 EXCEPT the PSY ones. d) Put it at the same point in all of them, right at the beginning as the Lindsey's introducing her co-presenter.
My proposals/questions re: icons in popups ( @lzim @dlkibbe @staceypark @TomRust please weigh in, especially on ?s):
@lzim @dlkibbe @TomRust @dlounsbu @staceypark Current popups spreadsheet: Pop-ups (3).xlsx Caution: some time stamps in MM:SS format converted to decimals or 12-hour clock times in separate worksheets. They're correct on the ALL worksheet. Larger ones look like HH:MM:SS but are really MM:SS:00.) Working on consistency, brevity of text, completeness. Missing sessions: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 7MM,PSY,AGG,SP - Jane 10 - Debbie 12 -
Hi @branscombj ,
Not all the times for session 9 copied into the spreadsheet correctly (I found two mistakes in CC, which only has (for now) four pauses -- a 50% error rate is no good!). I was going to start re-watching the session 9 videos today, to add more pauses, corrections, and info/tips. Do you have standard language for the pauses and info/tips? If we have "perfect" language, I'd rather use that the first time, than have to go back in again to make final tweaks. Thanks!
--TOM
@TomRust
Not all the times for session 9 copied into the spreadsheet correctly (I found two mistakes in CC, which only has (for now) four pauses -- a 50% error rate is no good!).
YIKES!! You're right - that is NO Good! Maybe we should use something other than Excel, which outsmarts itself interpreting 00:00 formatted numbers.
Do you have standard language for the pauses and info/tips? If we have "perfect" language, I'd rather use that the first time, than have to go back in again to make final tweaks.
I suggest you look at the worksheet for session 5 in the Excel file - esp the first 10 rows, which I've uniformized - and do something like that, with the modules side by side for each session. This way you can be internally consistent across all the modules for that session and once you settle on brief language you can paste it where it occurs in others. They won't all have exactly the same popups, and definitely not all in the same sequence - but many will be the same. You need 3 columns for video: type of popup (Correction, Pause, or Info/Tip); Wording (not including "Pause" etc.); Time stamp. Debbie even put duration for her Info/Tip ones; but maybe those could be standard - 4 seconds or so? Also Lindsey would like us to use icons in the popups where we have standard ones (Running Person, for ex). So maybe a 4th column - or link to the icon on Github right in the popup text.
Style rules I started using:
Hurray - it's FRIDAY :balloon:
In the spirit of avoiding rework FYI @branscombj @dlkibbe @TomRust @dlounsbu and @staceypark and @jamesmrollins
NOTE that we need all timestamps in the videos for the "upgrades" or "new features" that require pop-ups and the easiest way to catch that is with the relevant TEST module open and walking through the runs described in the video - it's a two-fer the MTL 1.8 Release Sprint and the MTL Video Review done at the same time.
AND keep in mind that everything that is in TEST now needs to be updated in all the MTL 1.8 session guides (.gifs and language), cheatsheets and emails... BEFORE WE CAN TRAIN THE OMHSP TAS in that session
You'll see that @jamesmrollins has our checklist regarding updating the documentation in all the relevant module issues: MTL 1.7 to 1.8 Sprint - https://github.com/lzim/teampsd/issues/298
CC - https://github.com/lzim/teampsd/issues/306 MM - https://github.com/lzim/teampsd/issues/309 AGG - https://github.com/lzim/teampsd/issues/314 PSY - https://github.com/lzim/teampsd/issues/319 SP - https://github.com/lzim/teampsd/issues/320
Okay, I will try to catch up on the standardization discuss above ASAP - but wanted to highlight the interdependence of the
Thanks y'all :100:
@lzim @dlkibbe @TomRust @branscombj @dlounsbu Spreadsheet for pop-up edits here: https://osf.io/2rfnd/
My proposals/questions re: icons in popups ( @lzim @dlkibbe @staceypark @TomRust please weigh in, especially on ?s):
- For Pauses use the double-bar symbol as discussed. Include the word "pause"? In all caps? With imperative on next line? Without connector (pause AND or pause TO)?
- For Corrections what symbol? None, only person's face? Use the word "oops"? Include "!"?
- For Info/Tips use the circle-i icon? Put it where the "face" would be and not include a photo?
- For Updates, I say treat them like Corrections. Use image of LZ since now co-presenters are in so many pop-ups? Replace "Oops!" with "Update!" Next line: "You may see something different due to improvements." Or some language like that which is not specific to the change.
- I do not think we should have any other types of pop-ups.
@lzim @staceypark @dlkibbe I don't know if these details are resolved. Thoughts? We will need to give @AnnHier specific guidance (or ask for her expert opinion).
@staceypark @lzim @TomRust @dlkibbe I'm puzzled. Here's what worksheet for 08 looks like in OSF view mode:
Here's what it looks like when I download and open in Excel:
Here's 06 in osf:
And here's 06 in Excel in the downloaded file:
@branscombj @staceypark @TomRust @dlkibbe
Weird! 😕 I'll be working directly with Excel, not relying on OSF viewer, then.
Did everyone finish their coding in the OSF worksheet? I'll be reviewing and pining Ann. Thanks!
@branscombj @lzim @staceypark @TomRust Session 6 times needed the apostrophe (') in front of the numbers - I've fixed that session. Session 10 and Session 12 are included in the file I uploaded this evening. I noted our language across all tabs for a similar action is not uniform: Edit Hypothesis text vs. complete edits to the Hypothesis text (just an example).
@AnnHier I think in Session 4 time 18:44-190:50 needs to be cut? You and @lzim talk about the screencast before diving back into the script
@AnnHier I think in Session 4 time 18:44-190:50 needs to be cut? You and @lzim talk about the screencast before diving back into the script
Thanks, @staceypark! Please include it in the master list of edits and additions. @lzim , I'm in the middle of a shoot still tomorrow and will be unavailable for the call. I believe the team is almost done with the worksheet, correct! Thanks, team!
@AnnHier (cc: @lzim @staceypark @dlkibbe @dlounsbu @TomRust ) Attached is the latest version (11) of the pop-ups spreadsheet from where we've been working on it in OSF. It covers all but sessions: 2, 3, 7AGG, and 7SP. Please take a look and let us know if you have concerns or feedback before you get your team to work on these, and if you want to get started or wait until we finish the last 4 over the next few days. Thanks! mtl_video_review_popups.xlsx
@AnnHier (cc: @lzim @staceypark @dlkibbe @dlounsbu @TomRust ) Attached is the latest version (11) of the pop-ups spreadsheet from where we've been working on it in OSF. It covers all but sessions: 2, 3, 7AGG, and 7SP. Please take a look and let us know if you have concerns or feedback before you get your team to work on these, and if you want to get started or wait until we finish the last 4 over the next few days. Thanks! mtl_video_review_popups.xlsx
@branscombj, you rock! The only thing I think would be great to add to it are the cuts mentioned in the thread - so not the popups per se, but the edits to the videos as well. I've been trying to keep a tally on those too, but I want to make sure I'm not missing anything! Thanks again!
@branscombj, you rock! The only thing I think would be great to add to it are the cuts mentioned in the thread - so not the popups per se, but the edits to the videos as well. I've been trying to keep a tally on those too, but I want to make sure I'm not missing anything! Thanks again!
@AnnHier The only one I've seen mentioned is the one above for Session 4. Are there others? I have not been making recommendations for edits in the sessions I've reviewed, and haven't heard of any from @TomRust or @dlkibbe either.
@branscombj good question, I'm looking through the thread and my notes from calls now. :)
Thanks @annhier and @branscombj
I got notes from Andrew on sessions 2 & 3 on Friday and should have those to Ann today.
Thanks!
Hey @AnnHier - The links for session 2 and 3 at the top are the same (both session 2). Could you add the session 3 link up there? I think @lzim was going to review 2 & 3 for corrections/popups and hasn't gotten to them yet. (The missing session 7 popups are on me:) Thanks! I was clicking through them to see all the total times. I think the longest of all is 07MM, but I didn't see any part I could easily recommend cutting out.
Video durations, just so we know. Three are >40 minutes.
Session | Length |
---|---|
1 | 13.31 |
2 | 29.04 |
3 | |
4 | 21.48 |
5CC | 28.19 |
5MM | 30.03 |
5PSY | 31.12 |
5AGG | 26.31 |
5SP | 29.58 |
6C | 25.22 |
6M | 31.54 |
6P | 31.41 |
6A | 32.15 |
6S | 34.11 |
7C | 32.42 |
7M | 34.46 |
7P | 29.06 |
7A | 31.13 |
7S | 30.06 |
8C | 34.02 |
8M | 40.23 |
8P | 31.11 |
8A | 32.11 |
8S | 38.28 |
9C | 35.12 |
9M | 42.52 |
9P | 29.09 |
9A | 38.53 |
9S | 32.55 |
10C | 32.24 |
10M | 38.29 |
10P | 28.47 |
10A | 40.53 |
10S | 34.05 |
11 | 12.03 |
12 | 23.33 |
Thanks @branscombj
@staceypark Can you please send a table to Dr. James Pittman that shows the videos that need to be piloted by social work? We told him on Wednesday we would get that to him 😄
@lzim, I'm working on getting the correct link now! Sorry about that.
Hello, here is the correct link for session 3: https://bcove.video/2A5xGoP
Thanks for your patience!
Got it! Thanks @AnnHier 😸 We'll get these last pieces to you ASAP.
Thanks @branscombj
Video durations, just so we know. Three are >40 minutes.
Session Length 1 13.31 2 29.04 3 30.54 4 21.48 5CC 28.19 5MM 30.03 5PSY 31.12 5AGG 26.31 5SP 29.58 6C 25.22 6M 31.54 6P 31.41 6A 32.15 6S 34.11 7C 32.42 7M 34.46 7P 29.06 7A 31.13 7S 30.06 8C 34.02 8M 40.23 8P 31.11 8A 32.11 8S 38.28 9C 35.12 9M 42.52 9P 29.09 9A 38.53 9S 32.55 10C 32.24 10M 38.29 10P 28.47 10A 40.53 10S 34.05 11 12.03 12 23.33
It is helpful to think about this, looks like: 3 videos > 40 minutes 4 videos > 35 minutes < 40 minutes 17 videos > 30 minutes < 35 minutes 8 videos > 25 minutes < 30 minutes 2 videos > 20 minutes < 25 minutes 2 < 20 minutes
I just watched session 3, and I thought it was really solid. We could maybe have a pop up or two where the layout of the table on screen is slightly different now, like for SPParams, but I don't think that's worth it. After all, nothing about using the spreadsheet changes, and everything said in the video is still correct - e.g. "look at these labels" and "this column has descriptions of the variables" etc. In the video, nothing is referred to by its row, but rather by its label. The labels will move with the values, so a popup correction seems totally unnecessary.
The only other thing I could think of would be popups explaining interesting values shown on screen e.g. "this zero indicates that the team we're looking at doesn't see patients for depression, according to the data" but the video didn't go in that direction at all, so that popup would probably be more distracting than helpful. I mean, no matter when you put that popup on screen, you put the viewer in the annoying situation of a text popup that isn't talking about the same thing as the presenter at that moment.
Okay, great! Thanks @holbrooa for reviewing this session too as the data UI tools are your “baby.”
I’ll combine with the S2 notes in the table and make sure @annhier has everything she needs.
One question I had was whether we should introduce you with a pop-up anywhere so folks can put your name/face together. we’ll have the team site to introduce you, if it doesn’t go in the video. But, I’ll keep an eye out, since “Andrew the data guy,” does often implement fixes based on field ideas, etc.
Okay, great! Thanks @holbrooa for reviewing this session too as the data UI tools are your “baby.”
I’ll combine with the S2 notes in the table and make sure @AnnHier has everything she needs.
One question I had was whether we should introduce you with a pop-up anywhere so folks can put your name/face together. we’ll have the team site to introduce you, if it doesn’t go in the video. But, I’ll keep an eye out, since “Andrew the data guy,” does often implement fixes based on field ideas, etc.
I added a time stamp in sessions 02 and 03 where we first get into the data UI onscreen where I think we could add Andrew's ID in a pop-up. What should it look like? Maybe like the credentials for other presenters except include his picture and somewhere say something like "Data UI brought to you by"? @lzim @holbrooa
Thanks for adding that to the table @branscombj 👏
Yes, "Data UI brought to you by" is good.
Do you have a preference @holbrooa ??
Just checking in, team! Are the notes pretty much solidified for changes? Thanks!
@AnnHier @staceypark @lzim @dlkibbe @TomRust Here is the finished pop-ups list. Please let us know if you have any questions! THANK YOU!! mtl_video_review_popups.xlsx
Thank you @branscombj and team! Have a great Easter/Passover weekend!
Thanks so much for everyone's hard work all along the way! @AnnHier @staceypark @lzim @dlkibbe @TomRust @branscombj
Yes, have a great Easter/Passover weekend too, Ann!
Hi team, just checking - where is the link for all the headshots, plus Andrew's credentials? Thanks! Happy Friday!
@AnnHier happy friday! You can get to everyone's headshots here in our folder of TeamPSD headshots: https://github.com/lzim/teampsd/tree/master/resources/headshots
@holbrooa credentials: He has a BS in Industrial Engineering - is that what you're looking for?
@AnnHier happy friday! You can get to everyone's headshots here in our folder of TeamPSD headshots: https://github.com/lzim/teampsd/tree/master/resources/headshots
@holbrooa credentials: He has a BS in Industrial Engineering - is that what you're looking for?
Thank you! That's perfect. I couldn't seem to find @TomRust in the headshots, but it's Monday and I haven't had my coffee yet.
One last question, I noticed that some popups are "credited" to a contributor, and others are not - depending on video - for example, videos 5 and 9 do not have any presenter to go along with the popup. I probably missed it in the discussion, but just confirm for me that it's meant to be that way. Thanks!
@TomRust Can you please upload your headshot 😄
Hmm...Let me look at the table for videos 5 and 9 regarding the pop-up attribution. Unless @branscombj or @dlkibbe know more about it off the top of their heads.
Thanks!
Thanks, @lzim, in the meantime, we're beginning work on the tabs of the spreadsheet creating the graphics.
@AnnHier sorry my bad! @TomRust headshot should be at the link too now
@AnnHier sorry my bad! @TomRust headshot should be at the link too now
Got it, @staceypark! Thanks!
Hi team, can you take a look at the screenshot and let us know if that placement looks okay? Also, please let me know about the "crediting" folks, and if you'd like to add the words "Correction," "Tip," "Info/Tip," and "whoops" to the graphics! :) Thanks.
For the latest MTL Video links, please:
1) go to https://mtl.how/documents
2) find the depend_products column on the far right
3) click on the relevant session & the video link will be at the top
Hi everyone. Here is the first batch of video uploads. Let me know if you have any trouble accessing them.
mtl Session 1 Cut1: https://bcove.video/2R3Flh2
mtl Session 2 Cut2: https://bcove.video/2GoRKZ0
mtl Session 3 Cut1: https://bcove.video/2A5xGoP
mtl Session 4: mtl Session 4 Cut1: https://bcove.video/2RRnryy
mtl Session 5 Med Management Module Cut1: https://bcove.video/2GlylrK
mtl Session 5 Care Coordination Module Cut 1: https://bcove.video/2Ad3hoP
mtl Session 5 Suicide Prevention Module Cut1: https://bcove.video/2A2HPTj
mtl Session 5 Psychotherapy Module Cut1: https://bcove.video/2S1bDXg
mtl Session 5 Aggregate Module Cut 1: https://bcove.video/2A4UQeU
mtl Session 6 Suicide Prevention Module Cut1: https://bcove.video/2A4KZpH
mtl Session 6 Care Coordination Module Cut 1: https://bcove.video/2R3Gghu
mtl Session 6 Med Management Module Cut1: https://bcove.video/2GlNitX
mtl Session 6 Psy Module Cut1: https://bcove.video/2S7tk7w
mtl Session 6 Aggregate Module Cut1: https://bcove.video/2R5iimg
mtl Session 7 Suicide Prevention Module Cut 1: https://bcove.video/2zZuB9K
mtl Session 7 Psy Module Cut1: https://bcove.video/2GnkXmR
mtl Session 7 Aggregate Module Cut 1: https://bcove.video/2S5g6Ir
mtl Session 7 Care Coordination Module Cut1: https://bcove.video/2QZmN1z
mtl Session 7 Med Management Module REDO Cut1: https://bcove.video/2S4jJhO
mtl Session 8 Psy Module Cut1: https://bcove.video/2GrOQT9
mtl Session 8 Aggregate Module Cut1: https://bcove.video/2A4TctU
mtl Session 8 Care Coordination Module Cut1: https://bcove.video/2S6nJOR
mtl Session 8 Suicide Prevention Module Cut 1: https://bcove.video/2QY65j4
mtl Session 8 Med Management Module Cut1: https://bcove.video/2GoDork
mtl Session 9 Aggregate Module Cut1: https://bcove.video/2GriKXD
mtl Session 9 Suicide Prevention Module Cut1: https://bcove.video/2A6BQwz
mtl Session 9 Med Management Module Cut1: https://bcove.video/2GsyKJ4
mtl Session 9 Psychotherapy Module Cut1: https://bcove.video/2A7E9zx
mtl Session 9 Care Coordination Module Cut1: https://bcove.video/2A0X2Eg
mtl Session 10 Suicide Prevention Module Cut 1: https://bcove.video/2SaRRIP
mtl Session 10 Med Management Module Cut1: https://bcove.video/2R9NC3i
mtl Session 10 Aggregate Module Cut1: https://bcove.video/2S8LAgZ
mtl Session 10 Care Coordination Module Cut1: https://bcove.video/2R6u7Zd
mtl Session 10 Psychotherapy Module Cut1: https://bcove.video/2Gtdtiu
mtl Session 11 Cut1: https://bcove.video/2GpFqaD
mtl Session 12 Cut1: https://bcove.video/2GsZWr6