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SO Track #8

Open mhoo opened 10 years ago

mhoo commented 10 years ago

How many people will we have for the adult SO track?

mikeal commented 10 years ago

We won't know the total count until we get all the signups. I expect the ticket structure this year to yield more SO's and Kids than previous years.

mikeal commented 10 years ago

also, adding @aemaier to this thread.

aemaier commented 10 years ago

@mhoo Good idea. Do you have any interest in helping to facilitate these activities? I could help secure supplies, but this is not my area of expertise :)

mikeal commented 10 years ago

also adding @thelmka my mom! :)

thelmka commented 10 years ago

@mhoo , i will bring my crochet hooks, anna and I will buy the supplies but we will need a list from you. # of skeins of yarn needed, brushes, color sets, etc. But you get to be the teacher for knitting and watercolor, I can teach the basics of crochet. What ideas do your kids have on activities they would like to do or learn? What are there ages?

hueniverse commented 10 years ago

How about this crazy idea - we teach them some node basics!

mikeal commented 10 years ago

That's the plan for the kids track.

Also, this was in another thread, but the first day of content the Copter room will be open for the kids track. Could also bring the SO track in to program copters.

lyle commented 10 years ago

@thelmka Our (@mhoo and me) kids are 8,9, and 12 - I think all of them will be interested in the node intro and copter programing. @mikeal would it be helpful for me to (help) run these for the kids track?

I'm not sure I can pull together enough laptops for my kids - so this might be of issue for the SO Kids track in general.

Is 'Learn You The Node.js For Much Win!' our target for the kids track, or should we do a version that is more "kids" focused?

justinabrahms commented 10 years ago

I think having the option for "learn to node" is a great idea. I would be hesitant to have that be the only option, however. Lots of folks are happy for their SOs to be programmers, but don't want that for themselves. I worry that they might feel proselytized to.

Maybe its "learn to node" with a backup plan of someone going on a hike / swimming / something else? Maybe that's been the plan all along. :)

aulvi commented 10 years ago

@lyle I think it would be a blast to have you and the kids assist with the Copter track! Also, having a couple of kids "on the inside" often helps the other children feel more comfortable and shortens the shy period.

mikeal commented 10 years ago

@lyle oh yeah, i hadn't even thought about the fact that we'd need extra computers. I'm suppose to have a Kano coming in the mail soon, is something low cost like this an option? If it's cheap enough we can just buy a bunch.

mikeal commented 10 years ago

@lyle oh, and it would definitely help if you ran the kids track :)

mikeal commented 10 years ago

I feel like "Learn you node" is a great way to learn node if you're already semi-comfortable with programming. I think we could do something around copters that was simpler and also a little more engaging.

mikeal commented 10 years ago

adding @fortoria

also, should we start a separate thread for the Kids Track or do we think they'll be intertwined enough that we should just keep them together in this thread?

fortoria commented 10 years ago

Thanks. @mikeal - Seems like intertwined is fine. In the past, have you had a liason or how have you collaborated with Walker Creek staff to get hikes/tours/swimming arranged?

mikeal commented 10 years ago

We have a few contacts we work with there. Prior years we've had some constraints because of overlapping things happening at the Ranch but because we're now one of the largest groups they do we're the only thing happening. Basically, we figure out when we want to have those kinds of things and then ask them if the times work. If we do it enough in advance almost any day/time works but sometimes there are constraints, particularly when it comes to getting a life guard.

On the second full day I plan on integrating some of this stuff as an option for the regular attendees as well so if you'd like to an SO and/or Kids only hike/tour/swim you'll want to do it on Friday.

lyle commented 10 years ago

I think SO and Kids tracks will be mixed a bit so planning in one thread seems good.

Kids (SO welcome too) on Friday copters seems good and a swim in the afternoon would be a good way for everyone new to learn the property.

On Wednesday, February 19, 2014, Mikeal Rogers notifications@github.com wrote:

We have a few contacts we work with there. Prior years we've had some constraints because of overlapping things happening at the Ranch but because we're now one of the largest groups they do we're the only thing happening. Basically, we figure out when we want to have those kinds of things and then ask them if the times work. If we do it enough in advance almost any day/time works but sometimes there are constraints, particularly when it comes to getting a life guard.

On the second full day I plan on integrating some of this stuff as an option for the regular attendees as well so if you'd like to an SO and/or Kids only hike/tour/swim you'll want to do it on Friday.

Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHubhttps://github.com/mikeal/nodeconf2014/issues/8#issuecomment-35556521 .

fortoria commented 10 years ago

@mhoo - water color somewhat (I can do it/show what I do but not confident teaching) but more specifically nature journal hiking is something I have expertise in. I'm in no way opposed to having programming sessions with kids but I'd also like to take good advantage of our beautiful setting, proximity to trails and wildlife.

Also, if you (or anyone else) has experience with fiber arts, there's a nice tie-in with programming; directions following in order to achieve a specific garment. I know only the very basics of knitting, crochet and weaving.

mikeal commented 10 years ago

kicking this thread.

what supplies to we need, cause I need to order these soon.

also, i'd like to work out the schedule so that we can coordinate with the camp to have naturalists for hikes and life guards for swim time.

fortoria commented 10 years ago

(repost) Great. Just to reintroduce myself, I don't have any children of my own but I'm more than happy to assist with general kid wrangling/watching and helping with activities. Indoor and outdoor education (professional) experience in arts, crafts, nature and garden/farm ed.

lyle commented 10 years ago

@fortoria it would be wonderful if you helped with kid wrangling planning orginizing. @mhoo and I are getting married this Saturday and are a little wrapped up with all that. And are planning on hitting NodeConf supplie requests and plans early next week.

@mhoo plans to run a couple adult (kids welcomed) water color sessions.

I plan to be kid wrangling the whole time and plan to bring kid art supplies.

aemaier commented 10 years ago

Congrats on your marriage @lyle and @mhoo!

Here is a draft of the schedule for the SO/Kids track. The plan is to get feedback on this thread, and send out a final schedule to the SO email list this coming Friday or the following Monday. Please reply by end of day Thursday, 6/26 if you want to comment on or edit this schedule.

Also, anyone who has volunteered to run a session: Please let us know what materials you need sometime this week so that we can order. Hopefully @mikeal will have numbers posted by tomorrow (Monday 6/23) to help with figuring this out. If anyone wants to help facilitate who hasn't been tagged, or has been tagged who doesn't want to facilitate, let me know. Thanks everyone!

THURSDAY 7/3

Buses arrive throughout afternoon.

1-5 pm: Canoe/Swim at Pond--open to all attendees (naturalist on duty)

6 pm: Dinner with attendees in dining hall

FRIDAY 7/4

8 am: Breakfast with attendees in dining hall

9:30 am: SO Track meets on patio in front of dining hall. Choice of activities:

10:30 am: Adult hike (assemble on patio in front of dining hall)

12 pm: Lunch with attendees in dining hall

1:30 pm: SO Track meets on patio in front of dining hall. Choice of activities:

6 pm: DInner with attendees in dining hall

Campfire after dinner (time TBD)

SATURDAY 7/5

8 am: Breakfast with attendees in dining hall

9:30 am: SO Track meets on main patio in front of dining hall. Choice of activities:

12 pm: Lunch with attendees in dining hall

1:30 pm: SO Track meets on patio in front of dining hall. Choice of activities:

6 pm: DInner with attendees in dining hall

Campfire after dinner (time TBD)

SUNDAY 7/6

8 am: Breakfast with attendees in dining hall

9:30 am: Free time

12 pm: Lunch

1 pm: Buses start to return to SF

thelmka commented 10 years ago

I would like to do a tydye with markers and very kid friendly craft on saturday morning 9:30. Bring something you already own that has stains and make it fun and wearable again. (If it is like last year we may have some sponsor shirts to use too.) Fiber arts saturday 1:30 I will share some basic crochet stiches and use yarns and twigs for a windchime project. Feel free to bring your hooks and yarn but some will be available.

thelmka commented 10 years ago

Congrats to @lyle and @mhoo. See you soon.

lyle commented 10 years ago

@mikeal / @aemaier any word on count for the amount of kids we may have in the Kids programing track? And do we think they will have laptops? Perhaps we should be thinking of the group I am running as the older kids, or an alternative group to @thelmka's craft group. My concern is really about the kids not having computers to work with. Yes on the copters on the afternoon on Friday.

mikeal commented 10 years ago

Preliminary numbers: 50 Significant Others, 30 kids over 3 years old.

mikeal commented 10 years ago

@lyle if you have some cheap laptops I can purchase on amazon I can buy them today and have them in time.

mikeal commented 10 years ago

Here are the responses in terms of ages of all the children, kids not yet 1 year old I've marked as 0:

10, 3, 1, 6, 3, 9, 6, 2 1, 12, 10, 8, 6, 4, 2, 0, 0, 8, 0, 4, 1, 8, 4, 2, 9, 1, 8, 3, 0, 6, 2, 4, 2, 11 9, 6, 9, 6, 6, 6, 4, 3, 0, 9, 9

lyle commented 10 years ago

Looks like for the mature kids (7 and up) we have about 18 kids (including mine). Some of these may be interested in Programing, but we can do great craft type stuff. Lets skip the purchasing of laptops. If we have enough kids with laptops to warrant a session on getting up and running with node then I will make sure that happens. @mhoo suggested that the kids that are really into the programing tack could go to some of the normal-track sessions. Does that sound ok, or should we make sure the programing track happens? I am good either way. But have different research to do at this point for purchasing suggestions.

lyle commented 10 years ago

Materials for Older Kids track I assume that these projects will take place in the dinning hall, we might want to have butcher paper to help in cleanup.

Cardboard Sculpture/Structure Creating

Making Clay Things and Firing them in the Camp-Fire

Working Phone/Cat5 wire into Jewelry and such

lyle commented 10 years ago

@mikeal if we definitely want a dedicated Kids Programing track then we will want all participants to be able to pair up and have a machine. Here is a good $200 chrome-book, which, with some tweeking, can take Node. I can take the students through Learn You The Node.js For Much Win - with some basics as well. But I have to say I am getting pretty excited about all these other non-digital things we can do with the kids. + Copters.

mikeal commented 10 years ago

@lyle ok, all ordered. I sent you the confirmation email just to doublecheck that I got everything.

The chrome books were limited to 3 per order so that's how many I got.

mhoo commented 10 years ago

7/4: watercolor basics 7/5: watercolor journaling - good for ages 10-12 up - a very focused 8 or 9 year old may not make it the whole session but could opted out as needed - class size ideally doesn't exceed 25, if @thelmka & @aemaier or @fortoria want to join me we could push class size to 30+

Supplies: Paint set - will need one set for each participant: paint 1st choice or if less expensive is needed: paint 2nd choice

Paper

plus one pack of

we will need plastic/paper cups for water - which we can probably borrow from the kitchen

for the journaling class: clipboards - maybe you already have these?? always handy - if too much $$$ let me know and I will see if I can get boards from hardware store cut to size

Fiber Arts 7/5 1:30 - 4 ish - I could do a basics of crochet with @thelmka? what shall we do OR another Watercolor session I am flexible -

Scheduling looks good to me, combining "hike" with journaling - is more like walk, sit, paint - very little exercise involved - but I can come up with some kind of "painting nature" cheat sheet so folks that didn't come Friday can come Saturday - will need 30 min prep time in dinning hall to prep to go out and paint if getting supplies is an issue please let me know

mikeal commented 10 years ago

how many of these paint sets do i buy?

mikeal commented 10 years ago

i'm going to assume 30.

mikeal commented 10 years ago

One last thing: space.

We have two smallish rooms we can use on the back side of the bath house. This would probably be better than using the cafeteria.

mikeal commented 10 years ago

@mhoo your first choice watercolor set won't ship quick enough (it'll take like a month), but the price is fine. do you have another top choice or should i go with the cheaper one you suggested?

mikeal commented 10 years ago

@mhoo what do you think about this one? http://www.amazon.com/Prang-Washable-Watercolor-Assorted-16016/dp/B000QE7ZCG/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1403817909&sr=8-3&keywords=prang+watercolors

lyle commented 10 years ago

@mikeal, @mhoo says a 8 base color set is good and importantly a pallet for mixing colors is important, so the lid of some sets has that. this set, though pricy has the pallet in the lid.

As for space, the rooms sound good. For the clay work it might be best to be outside near a hose.

mikeal commented 10 years ago

ok, just ordered. the only one i was actually able to get a good enough guaranteed shipping date on was the second choice from the original post.

also, the 30-inch paper wouldn't arrive for months. the only option i could find for that size (30-inch) was to buy rolls of it that we'll need to cut :(

lyle commented 10 years ago

@mhoo and I will get the 30" paper at a local art shop and bring it with us.

lyle commented 10 years ago

@micheal, if you can change the shipping of the laptops to my place I can get a jump on them being in dev mode and install node on them: Lyle Troxell 10880 Alba Rd, Unit A Ben Lomond, CA, 95005

I'll look for a printer.

On Thursday, June 26, 2014, Mikeal Rogers notifications@github.com wrote:

ok, just ordered. the only one i was actually able to get a good enough guaranteed shipping date on was the second choice from the original post.

also, the 30-inch paper wouldn't arrive for months. the only option i could find for that size (30-inch) was to buy rolls of it that we'll need to cut :(

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mikeal commented 10 years ago

Damn, tried to change it but it's too late :(

Feel free to grab some staff on the 3rd to help you get them in dev mode at the ranch if you like.

On Jun 26, 2014, at 5:10PM, Lyle Troxell notifications@github.com wrote:

@micheal, if you can change the shipping of the laptops to my place I can get a jump on them being in dev mode and install node on them: Lyle Troxell 10880 Alba Rd, Unit A Ben Lomond, CA, 95005

I'll look for a printer.

On Thursday, June 26, 2014, Mikeal Rogers notifications@github.com wrote:

ok, just ordered. the only one i was actually able to get a good enough guaranteed shipping date on was the second choice from the original post.

also, the 30-inch paper wouldn't arrive for months. the only option i could find for that size (30-inch) was to buy rolls of it that we'll need to cut :(

— Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub https://github.com/mikeal/nodeconf2014/issues/8#issuecomment-47287547.

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lyle commented 10 years ago

Sounds good. Also, I might join you all on the 2nd and get them going. I'll let you know.

On Thursday, June 26, 2014, Mikeal Rogers notifications@github.com wrote:

Damn, tried to change it but it's too late :(

Feel free to grab some staff on the 3rd to help you get them in dev mode at the ranch if you like.

On Jun 26, 2014, at 5:10PM, Lyle Troxell <notifications@github.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','notifications@github.com');> wrote:

@micheal, if you can change the shipping of the laptops to my place I can get a jump on them being in dev mode and install node on them: Lyle Troxell 10880 Alba Rd, Unit A Ben Lomond, CA, 95005

I'll look for a printer.

On Thursday, June 26, 2014, Mikeal Rogers <notifications@github.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','notifications@github.com');> wrote:

ok, just ordered. the only one i was actually able to get a good enough guaranteed shipping date on was the second choice from the original post.

also, the 30-inch paper wouldn't arrive for months. the only option i could find for that size (30-inch) was to buy rolls of it that we'll need to cut :(

— Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub https://github.com/mikeal/nodeconf2014/issues/8#issuecomment-47287547.

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mikeal commented 10 years ago

Ok, they are scheduled to arrive on the 2nd, so let's hope they get here before I head downtown :)

On Jun 26, 2014, at 5:25PM, Lyle Troxell notifications@github.com wrote:

Sounds good. Also, I might join you all on the 2nd and get them going. I'll let you know.

On Thursday, June 26, 2014, Mikeal Rogers notifications@github.com wrote:

Damn, tried to change it but it's too late :(

Feel free to grab some staff on the 3rd to help you get them in dev mode at the ranch if you like.

On Jun 26, 2014, at 5:10PM, Lyle Troxell <notifications@github.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','notifications@github.com');> wrote:

@micheal, if you can change the shipping of the laptops to my place I can get a jump on them being in dev mode and install node on them: Lyle Troxell 10880 Alba Rd, Unit A Ben Lomond, CA, 95005

I'll look for a printer.

On Thursday, June 26, 2014, Mikeal Rogers <notifications@github.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','notifications@github.com');> wrote:

ok, just ordered. the only one i was actually able to get a good enough guaranteed shipping date on was the second choice from the original post.

also, the 30-inch paper wouldn't arrive for months. the only option i could find for that size (30-inch) was to buy rolls of it that we'll need to cut :(

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aemaier commented 10 years ago

Schedule has been updated to reflect the comments. PLEASE LET ME KNOW if anything still needs to be adjusted. Email with the schedule will be going out to the SO track this weekend!! My plan when I send out the email is to ask kids to bring t-shirts they want to dye for @thelmka's session (we can use extra sponsor t-shirts but they'll be huge).

@lyle If it would be helpful I can also ask that if any of the older kids have their heart set on learning to program, they bring an extra laptop if possible. Not sure if this would help since the laptops might not be set up, but as @mikeal said we can always have staff members help out with that. Let me know if you think that's a good idea. Also, I am calling your segment the "Kids Technology Track." This can include both computer and non-computer activities that are a little older and more complex than the Arts and Crafts Track. If need be, we can always merge the two kids tracks together at certain points as well. I designated Friday afternoon Node Copter/Fireworks time for all on SO track who are interested--I think that @aulvi may be available to help with this as well.

Thanks everyone!

lyle commented 10 years ago

@aemaier all this sounds good. I would love to get a feel for how many of the kids want to learn to code a bit and would like to bring a machine. Kids Tech Track sounds good to me.

mikeal commented 10 years ago

@lyle the chromebooks arrived, i'll bring them to the July 2nd dry-run at NPM Inc if you're around.

aemaier commented 10 years ago

@lyle

Sending out the email schedule to SO track today. Asked that those who plan to bring an extra laptop respond to the email--will let you know if I hear back from anyone.

On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Mikeal Rogers notifications@github.com wrote:

@lyle https://github.com/lyle the chromebooks arrived, i'll bring them to the July 2nd dry-run at NPM Inc if you're around.

— Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub https://github.com/mikeal/nodeconf2014/issues/8#issuecomment-47439580.

lyle commented 10 years ago

Saw the email, looks great. Thanks.

On Sunday, June 29, 2014, Anna Maier notifications@github.com wrote:

@lyle

Sending out the email schedule to SO track today. Asked that those who plan to bring an extra laptop respond to the email--will let you know if I hear back from anyone.

Anna Maier Master of Public Policy Candidate, 2015 University of California, Berkeley | Goldman School of Public Policy

aemaier@gmail.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','aemaier@gmail.com'); | (206) 334-5848

On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Mikeal Rogers <notifications@github.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','notifications@github.com');> wrote:

@lyle https://github.com/lyle the chromebooks arrived, i'll bring them to the July 2nd dry-run at NPM Inc if you're around.

— Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub https://github.com/mikeal/nodeconf2014/issues/8#issuecomment-47439580.

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