27.0.0: Photo view is very slowly

Thanks for your reply

What type of underlying server platform/resources are you running this one?

Linux VM

Which install method did you use for NC?

direct installed on the system, no docker/AIO

What steps have you already taken to tune your server? e.g. https://docs.nextcloud.com/server/latest/admin_manual/installation/server_tuning.html

https://www.c-rieger.de/nextcloud-installation-mit-nur-einem-skript-zero-sh/

Have you done anything to tune preview generation to your particular circumstances? (e.g. use of previewgenerator app, use of Imaginary, etc.)

I only use the previewgenerator without changes

Also, for good measure, anything interesting in your nextcloud.log during these slow periods?

Can you provide the output of./occ config:list system?

{ "system": { "passwordsalt": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***", "secret": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***", "trusted_domains": [ "46.38.250.28", "c.roehrl-online.de" ], "datadirectory": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***", "dbtype": "pgsql", "version": "27.0.0.8", "overwrite.cli.url": "https:\/\/c.roehrl-online.de", "dbname": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***", "dbhost": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***", "dbport": "", "dbtableprefix": "oc_", "mysql.utf8mb4": true, "dbuser": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***", "dbpassword": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***", "installed": true, "instanceid": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***", "activity_expire_days": 14, "auth.bruteforce.protection.enabled": true, "blacklisted_files": [ ".htaccess", "Thumbs.db", "thumbs.db" ], "cron_log": true, "enable_previews": true, "enabledPreviewProviders": [ "OC\\Preview\\PNG", "OC\\Preview\\JPEG", "OC\\Preview\\GIF", "OC\\Preview\\BMP", "OC\\Preview\\XBitmap", "OC\\Preview\\Movie", "OC\\Preview\\PDF", "OC\\Preview\\MP3", "OC\\Preview\\TXT", "OC\\Preview\\MarkDown" ], "filesystem_check_changes": 0, "filelocking.enabled": "true", "htaccess.RewriteBase": "\/", "integrity.check.disabled": false, "knowledgebaseenabled": false, "log_rotate_size": 104857600, "logfile": "\/var\/nc_data\/nextcloud.log", "logtimezone": "Europe\/Berlin", "memcache.local": "\\OC\\Memcache\\APCu", "memcache.locking": "\\OC\\Memcache\\Redis", "preview_max_x": "2048", "preview_max_y": "2048", "preview_max_scale_factor": 1, "redis": { "host": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***", "port": 0, "timeout": 0 }, "quota_include_external_storage": false, "share_folder": "\/Shares", "skeletondirectory": "", "trashbin_retention_obligation": "auto, 7", "mail_smtpmode": "smtp", "mail_smtpsecure": "tls", "mail_sendmailmode": "smtp", "mail_from_address": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***", "mail_domain": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***", "mail_smtpauthtype": "LOGIN", "mail_smtpauth": 1, "mail_smtphost": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***", "mail_smtpport": 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nextcloud / photos

27.0.0: Photo view is very slowly #1918