Modern techniques for dependency resolution

[mratsim]

Just a recap of a short discussion with @haxscramper and @FedericoCeratto on modern dependency resolution.

Nimble found a certain combination of dependencies impossible to resolve even though there is actually a solution.

Modern package managers that handles tens of thousands of packages and/or multiversioning are gradually delegating dependency resolution to SAT solvers as this is a problem that can be modelled as a Satisfiability problem.

Writeups:

• Anaconda, the scientific python distribution which manages 10s of thousands of branches, versions, architectures, optional dependencies: https://www.anaconda.com/blog/understanding-and-improving-condas-performance. Note for personally using for data science, it is still way too slow.
• Mamba, a package manager for conda in C++ that is significantly faster: https://wolfv.medium.com/making-conda-fast-again-4da4debfb3b7

TLDR;

• Both are looking into SAT solver, conda was looking into using Z3 specifically https://github.com/Z3Prover/z3/issues/211. If we provide Z3, for DrNim nimble can piggyback on it.
• Mamba choose a pragmatic solution libsolv from the OpenSuse project which is very package management oriented: https://github.com/openSUSE/libsolv

Note: I think there are other approaches possible from writing that ourselves or using alternative theories like Integer Linear Programming (ILP) but it's more pragmatic to reuse existing blocks that were optimized and stabilized over years of usage here and regarding ILP, I tried to wrap the one for LLVM (http://isl.gforge.inria.fr/) or write one myself (https://github.com/mratsim/hydra) but those are really complex.

[FedericoCeratto]

Datapoints regarding distributing Z3: it is packaged in most distributions, it appears to be stable, without concerning dependencies, and runs on most architectures.

Then a valid solution is impossible, the dependency solver in apt/aptitude can suggest multiple alternative solutions that break/ignore one or more constraint each, starting with the less "aggressive" first. Z3 might help doing the same easily.

Also, https://ci.debian.net/doc/ runs automated tests against multiple solutions and across multiple packages to spot incorrect dependency constraints. Z3 could help doing local compilation tests against combinations of dependencies to spot similar issues.

[haxscramper]

Current implementation of dependency resolution does not construct explicit dependency graph, and instead just loops https://github.com/nim-lang/nimble/blob/95e6870f60655e81ff488779c7f589fe649061ec/src/nimble.nim#L64 though requirements, almost immediately installing them https://github.com/nim-lang/nimble/blob/95e6870f60655e81ff488779c7f589fe649061ec/src/nimble.nim#L84-L86 which I believe to be the source of such bugs as https://github.com/nim-lang/nimble/issues/505 and https://github.com/nim-lang/nimble/issues/887 (could be prevented with explicit dependency graph construction).

Maybe we could adopt an approach similar to https://hal.archives-ouvertes.fr/hal-00149566/document for mapping dependency requirements to something that is fed into z3

Related links:

• https://github.com/disruptek/golden/issues/21 Can't install with nimble: nimterop versions
• https://github.com/nim-lang/nimble/issues/505 Dependency resolution depends on the order in requires
• https://github.com/nim-lang/nimble/issues/766 Installing package fails to find the dependent package even though it exists.
• https://github.com/nim-lang/nimble/issues/887 nimble loops infinitely trying to install codependent requirements
• https://old.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/45ftk1/so_you_want_to_write_a_package_manager/

[stefantalpalaru]

Both are looking into SAT solver

For good reasons: https://research.swtch.com/version-sat

[dom96]

For good reasons: https://research.swtch.com/version-sat

This is a classic, if you haven't already then check out the "Alternatives?" section. Some of the suggestions may sound familiar.

Specifying a concrete version in a Nimble file has always been a bad idea and largely discouraged. I think that once lock files are merged into Nimble that we should look into disallowing concrete versions in "requires" completely (without lock files this is the only way you can hope to get reproducible builds).

Nim should also grow the ability to compile a package with a dependency on two different versions of the same package. I think I may have finally convinced Araq that this is necessary :)

[haxscramper]

Approximate current stats for nimble package requirement specifications:

total package count:      1565
processing ok:            1382
not using github:         51
http error when getting:  87
configuration parse fail: 19

verLater        (   > V    ): 28
verEarlier      (   < V    ): 4
verEqLater      (   >= V   ): 1759
verEqEarlier    (   <= V   ): 2
verIntersect    (> V & < V ): 37
verEq           (    V     ): 24
verAny          (    *     ): 319
verSpecial      (  #head   ): 34

[haxscramper]

I think it should be explicitly noted that while the addition of SAT solver might be considered debatable, the dependency resolution step of nimble should be refactored into explicit dependency graph construction with subsequent full download of packages to be installed. Current solution of resolving-packages-while-installing-packages-wile-resolving packages leads to overly verbose output where each dependency can be repeated, makes resolution dependent on order of requires statements, and makes it hardly possible to do things like nimble build and nimble test without installing anything.

Package can appear multiple times in the output if it is required by more than one package, but each additional encounter will have useless 'requirement already satisfied' message, cluttering output and making it much harder to determine what went wrong.

It is possible to get all necessary dependency information by parsing .nimble file, but without evaluating it, and while this might seem like an overly fragile approach it worked successfully for approximately 96% of the [processed] packages. It is not possible to account for all possible ways of writing package specification of course, but things like

  version       = pkgVersion # fae

  # paravim
  installExt    = @[
    "nim", "txt", "ttf", "glsl", "c", "h",
    when defined(windows):
      "dll"
    elif defined(macosx):
      "dylib"
    elif defined(linux):
      "so"
  ]

  # metar
  include metar/version

  version = metarVersion

  # plz
  version     = CompileDate.replace("-", ".")

Are extremely rare, and for these cases fully downloading packages before resolving it is the only solution (as well as non-github hostings (account for 3% of all packages).

[haxscramper]

Related nim forum discussion https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/7671

additional edit (not separate comment to avoid pings)

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Not to mention this `nimble test` command errored out and provided me with a following error message (as seen in terminal). Each `--path` is duplicated as many times as particular package was encountered. ``` /home/test/.nimble/bin/nim cpp --noNimblePath -d:NimblePkgVersion=0.1.2 --path:/ mnt/workspace/github/hnimast/src --path:/mnt/workspace/github/hmisc/src --path:/ home/test/.nimble/pkgs/cligen-1.2.2 --path:/home/test/workspace/git-sandbox/fusi on/src --path:/home/test/.nimble/pkgs/benchy-0.0.1 --path:/home/test/.nimble/pkg s/macroutils-1.0.0 --path:/home/test/.nimble/pkgs/compiler-1.4.6 --path:/home/te st/.nimble/pkgs/nimble-0.13.0 --path:/mnt/workspace/github/hmisc/src --path:/hom e/test/.nimble/pkgs/cligen-1.2.2 --path:/home/test/workspace/git-sandbox/fusion/ src --path:/home/test/.nimble/pkgs/benchy-0.0.1 --path:/mnt/workspace/github/hpp rint/src --path:/mnt/workspace/github/hdrawing/src --path:/mnt/workspace/github/ hmisc/src --path:/home/test/.nimble/pkgs/cligen-1.2.2 --path:/home/test/workspac e/git-sandbox/fusion/src --path:/home/test/.nimble/pkgs/benchy-0.0.1 --path:/mnt 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t/.nimble/pkgs/benchy-0.0.1 --path:/mnt/workspace/github/hnimast/src --path:/mnt /workspace/github/hmisc/src --path:/home/test/.nimble/pkgs/cligen-1.2.2 --path:/ home/test/workspace/git-sandbox/fusion/src --path:/home/test/.nimble/pkgs/benchy -0.0.1 --path:/home/test/.nimble/pkgs/macroutils-1.0.0 --path:/home/test/.nimble /pkgs/compiler-1.4.6 --path:/home/test/.nimble/pkgs/nimble-0.13.0 --path:/mnt/wo rkspace/github/hmisc/src --path:/home/test/.nimble/pkgs/cligen-1.2.2 --path:/hom e/test/workspace/git-sandbox/fusion/src --path:/home/test/.nimble/pkgs/benchy-0. 0.1 --path:/mnt/workspace/github/hnimast/src --path:/mnt/workspace/github/hmisc/ src --path:/home/test/.nimble/pkgs/cligen-1.2.2 --path:/home/test/workspace/git- sandbox/fusion/src --path:/home/test/.nimble/pkgs/benchy-0.0.1 --path:/home/test /.nimble/pkgs/macroutils-1.0.0 --path:/home/test/.nimble/pkgs/compiler-1.4.6 --p ath:/home/test/.nimble/pkgs/nimble-0.13.0 --path:/mnt/workspace/github/hmisc/src --path:/home/test/.nimble/pkgs/cligen-1.2.2 --path:/home/test/workspace/git-san dbox/fusion/src --path:/home/test/.nimble/pkgs/benchy-0.0.1 --path:/mnt/workspac e/github/hpprint/src --path:/mnt/workspace/github/hdrawing/src --path:/mnt/works pace/github/hmisc/src --path:/home/test/.nimble/pkgs/cligen-1.2.2 --path:/home/t est/workspace/git-sandbox/fusion/src --path:/home/test/.nimble/pkgs/benchy-0.0.1 --path:/mnt/workspace/github/hnimast/src --path:/mnt/workspace/github/hmisc/src --path:/home/test/.nimble/pkgs/cligen-1.2.2 --path:/home/test/workspace/git-san dbox/fusion/src --path:/home/test/.nimble/pkgs/benchy-0.0.1 --path:/home/test/.n imble/pkgs/macroutils-1.0.0 --path:/home/test/.nimble/pkgs/compiler-1.4.6 --path :/home/test/.nimble/pkgs/nimble-0.13.0 --path:/mnt/workspace/github/hmisc/src -- path:/home/test/.nimble/pkgs/cligen-1.2.2 --path:/home/test/workspace/git-sandbo x/fusion/src --path:/home/test/.nimble/pkgs/benchy-0.0.1 --path:/mnt/workspace/g ithub/nimspell/src --path:/mnt/workspace/github/hmisc/src --path:/home/test/.nim ble/pkgs/cligen-1.2.2 --path:/home/test/workspace/git-sandbox/fusion/src --path: /home/test/.nimble/pkgs/benchy-0.0.1 --path:'/home/test/.nimble/pkgs/fusion-#mat ching-fixup' --path:/home/test/.nimble/pkgs/cxxstd-0.1.0 --path:/mnt/workspace/g ithub/hmisc/src --path:/home/test/.nimble/pkgs/cligen-1.2.2 --path:/home/test/wo rkspace/git-sandbox/fusion/src --path:/home/test/.nimble/pkgs/benchy-0.0.1 --pat h:/mnt/workspace/github/hpprint/src --path:/mnt/workspace/github/hdrawing/src -- path:/mnt/workspace/github/hmisc/src --path:/home/test/.nimble/pkgs/cligen-1.2.2 --path:/home/test/workspace/git-sandbox/fusion/src --path:/home/test/.nimble/pk gs/benchy-0.0.1 --path:/mnt/workspace/github/hnimast/src --path:/mnt/workspace/g ithub/hmisc/src --path:/home/test/.nimble/pkgs/cligen-1.2.2 --path:/home/test/wo rkspace/git-sandbox/fusion/src --path:/home/test/.nimble/pkgs/benchy-0.0.1 --pat h:/home/test/.nimble/pkgs/macroutils-1.0.0 --path:/home/test/.nimble/pkgs/compil er-1.4.6 --path:/home/test/.nimble/pkgs/nimble-0.13.0 --path:/mnt/workspace/gith ub/hmisc/src --path:/home/test/.nimble/pkgs/cligen-1.2.2 --path:/home/test/works pace/git-sandbox/fusion/src --path:/home/test/.nimble/pkgs/benchy-0.0.1 --path:/ home/test/.nimble/pkgs/nimble-0.13.0 --path:/home/test/workspace/git-sandbox/fus ion/src --path:/home/test/.nimble/pkgs/cxxstd-0.1.0 --hints:off -r --path:. /mnt /workspace/github/haxdoc/tests/tFilterD ```