Closed paulmenzel closed 1 year ago
Hey @paulmenzel,
apparently you get no AS resolution after the BCIX hop (n.5), which is odd. From your trace I reckon the script fails to output AS info for both AS680 hops (n.6 and n.10). Is this behavior reproducible with other paths/AS numbers that you can tell, or does it happen only for AS680? Was this a one-off error or does it keep happening?
I tried locally and am unable to reproduce the behavior, plus all AS680 hops resolve fine:
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│ Trace to charite.de │
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Hop IP Address Loss% Ping avg AS Information
1. 172.18.112.1 0% 0.2 ms BOGON rfc1918 (Private Space)
2. 192.168.10.1 0% 0.5 ms BOGON rfc1918 (Private Space)
3. 10.0.0.1 0% 1.1 ms BOGON rfc1918 (Private Space)
4. 93-43-50-65.ip90.fastwebnet.it (93.43.50.65) 0% 6.2 ms [AS12874] FASTWEB, IT
5. 93-61-50-1.ip145.fastwebnet.it (93.61.50.1) 0% 2.5 ms [AS12874] FASTWEB, IT
6. ??? 100% * (No reply)
7. ??? 100% * (No reply)
8. 10.254.20.241 0% 7.5 ms BOGON rfc1918 (Private Space)
9. 89-97-200-190.ip19.fastwebnet.it (89.97.200.190) 0% 6.6 ms [AS12874] FASTWEB, IT
10. 62-101-124-25.fastres.net (62.101.124.25) 0% 16.0 ms [AS12874] FASTWEB, IT
11. cr-erl2-be1.x-win.dfn.de (80.81.193.222) 0% 28.0 ms IXP DE-CIX Frankfurt ()
12. cr-tub2-be10.x-win.dfn.de (188.1.146.210) 0% 37.2 ms [AS680] DFN Verein zur Foerderung eines Deutschen Forschungsnetzes e.V., DE
13. kr-charit1.x-win.dfn.de (188.1.235.78) 0% 37.9 ms [AS680] DFN Verein zur Foerderung eines Deutschen Forschungsnetzes e.V., DE
14. barrier.charite.de (193.175.73.8) 0% 44.1 ms [AS680] DFN Verein zur Foerderung eines Deutschen Forschungsnetzes e.V., DE
15. fw-keeep-globaltransit.charite.de (141.42.5.249) 0% 41.2 ms [AS680] DFN Verein zur Foerderung eines Deutschen Forschungsnetzes e.V., DE
16. s-www-gw.charite.de (141.42.206.113) 0% 42.1 ms [AS680] DFN Verein zur Foerderung eines Deutschen Forschungsnetzes e.V., DE
Trace completed in 15 seconds on 2023-02-20 20:30:08 CET
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│ AS path to charite.de │
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207013 WIFLY-AS (Local AS)
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╰12874 FASTWEB
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╰ IXP DE-CIX Frankfurt ()
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╰680 DFN Verein zur Foerderung eines Deutschen Forschungsnetzes e.V.
Yesterday it only happened with a few more domains but with others – also in DFN – it was fine.
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│ Trace to www.mpimet.mpg.de │
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Hop IP Address Loss% Ping avg AS Information
1. o2.box (192.168.1.1) 60% 0.8 ms BOGON rfc1918 (Private Space)
2. loopback1.0002.acln.01.ber.de.net.telefonica.de (62.52.201.185) 80% 21.7 ms [AS6805] TDDE-ASN1, DE
3. bundle-ether16.0003.dbrx.01.ber.de.net.telefonica.de (62.53.2.84) 80% 6.8 ms [AS6805] TDDE-ASN1, DE
4. ae1-0.0001.prrx.01.ber.de.net.telefonica.de (62.53.11.125) 80% 7.2 ms [AS6805] TDDE-ASN1, DE
5. dfn.bcix.de (193.178.185.42) 40% 17.1 ms IXP BCIX (Berlin Commercial Internet Exchange)
6. cr-ham1-be8.x-win.dfn.de (188.1.144.57) 60% 20.1 ms (WIN-IP / IP networking on DFN's Wissenschaftsnetz "X-WiN")
7. ??? 100% * (No reply)
8. ??? 100% * (No reply)
9. ??? 100% * (No reply)
10. www.mpimet.mpg.de (136.172.142.6) 60% 23.2 ms (RIPE-ERX-136-172-0-0 / RIPE Network Coordination Centre)
Trace completed in 36 seconds on 2023-02-20 08:17:44 CET
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│ AS path to www.mpimet.mpg.de │
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6805 TDDE-ASN1 (Local AS)
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╰ IXP BCIX (Berlin Commercial Internet Exchange)
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│ Trace to amerika.zedat.fu-berlin.de │
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Hop IP Address Loss% Ping avg AS Information
1. o2.box (192.168.1.1) 80% 0.5 ms BOGON rfc1918 (Private Space)
2. loopback1.0002.acln.01.ber.de.net.telefonica.de (62.52.201.185) 80% 6.8 ms [AS6805] TDDE-ASN1, DE
3. bundle-ether16.0004.dbrx.01.ber.de.net.telefonica.de (62.53.2.94) 80% 6.8 ms [AS6805] TDDE-ASN1, DE
4. ae2-0.0001.prrx.01.ber.de.net.telefonica.de (62.53.11.127) 80% 6.3 ms [AS6805] TDDE-ASN1, DE
5. dfn.bcix.de (193.178.185.42) 20% 16.9 ms IXP BCIX (Berlin Commercial Internet Exchange)
6. kr-tub272-0.x-win.dfn.de (188.1.235.242) 80% 17.2 ms (WIN-IP / IP networking on DFN's Wissenschaftsnetz "X-WiN")
7. ??? 100% * (No reply)
8. ??? 100% * (No reply)
9. ??? 100% * (No reply)
10. s51-7010-core-eth1-1.router.fu-berlin.de (160.45.246.38) 20% 17.3 ms (FULAN / Freie Universitaet Berlin)
11. amerika.router.fu-berlin.de (130.133.2.1) 80% 16.9 ms (RIPE-ERX-130-133-0-0 / RIPE Network Coordination Centre)
Trace completed in 44 seconds on 2023-02-20 08:43:26 CET
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│ AS path to amerika.zedat.fu-berlin.de │
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6805 TDDE-ASN1 (Local AS)
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╰ IXP BCIX (Berlin Commercial Internet Exchange)
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│ Trace to www.tu-berlin.de │
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Hop IP Address Loss% Ping avg AS Information
1. o2.box (192.168.1.1) 80% 0.7 ms BOGON rfc1918 (Private Space)
2. loopback1.0002.acln.01.ber.de.net.telefonica.de (62.52.201.185) 80% 6.5 ms [AS6805] TDDE-ASN1, DE
3. ??? 100% * (No reply)
4. ae2-0.0001.prrx.01.ber.de.net.telefonica.de (62.53.11.127) 80% 6.2 ms [AS6805] TDDE-ASN1, DE
5. dfn.bcix.de (193.178.185.42) 20% 16.7 ms IXP BCIX (Berlin Commercial Internet Exchange)
6. kr-tub248.x-win.dfn.de (188.1.235.118) 80% 16.8 ms (WIN-IP / IP networking on DFN's Wissenschaftsnetz "X-WiN")
7. ??? 100% * (No reply)
8. ??? 100% * (No reply)
9. ??? 100% * (No reply)
10. tu-berlin.de (130.149.7.201) 20% 18.1 ms (RIPE-ERX-130-138-0-0 / RIPE Network Coordination Centre)
Trace completed in 36 seconds on 2023-02-20 08:44:17 CET
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│ AS path to www.tu-berlin.de │
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6805 TDDE-ASN1 (Local AS)
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╰ IXP BCIX (Berlin Commercial Internet Exchange)
Others worked:
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│ Trace to bigbluebutton.molgen.mpg.de │
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Hop IP Address Loss% Ping avg AS Information
1. o2.box (192.168.1.1) 80% 0.6 ms BOGON rfc1918 (Private Space)
2. loopback1.0002.acln.01.ber.de.net.telefonica.de (62.52.201.185) 80% 14.2 ms [AS6805] TDDE-ASN1, DE
3. bundle-ether16.0004.dbrx.01.ber.de.net.telefonica.de (62.53.2.94) 80% 7.2 ms [AS6805] TDDE-ASN1, DE
4. ae2-0.0001.prrx.01.ber.de.net.telefonica.de (62.53.11.127) 80% 5.9 ms [AS6805] TDDE-ASN1, DE
5. dfn.bcix.de (193.178.185.42) 20% 17.2 ms IXP BCIX (Berlin Commercial Internet Exchange)
6. ??? 100% * (No reply)
7. ??? 100% * (No reply)
8. ??? 100% * (No reply)
9. ??? 100% * (No reply)
10. bigbluebutton.molgen.mpg.de (141.14.15.170) 20% 18.7 ms [AS680] DFN Verein zur Foerderung eines Deutschen Forschungsnetzes e.V., DE
Trace completed in 14 seconds on 2023-02-20 08:13:21 CET
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│ AS path to bigbluebutton.molgen.mpg.de │
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6805 TDDE-ASN1 (Local AS)
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╰ IXP BCIX (Berlin Commercial Internet Exchange)
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╰680 DFN Verein zur Foerderung eines Deutschen Forschungsnetzes e.V.
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│ Trace to www.mpim-bonn.mpg.de │
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Hop IP Address Loss% Ping avg AS Information
1. o2.box (192.168.1.1) 80% 0.8 ms BOGON rfc1918 (Private Space)
2. loopback1.0002.acln.01.ber.de.net.telefonica.de (62.52.201.185) 80% 7.0 ms [AS6805] TDDE-ASN1, DE
3. bundle-ether16.0003.dbrx.01.ber.de.net.telefonica.de (62.53.2.84) 80% 7.2 ms [AS6805] TDDE-ASN1, DE
4. ae1-0.0001.prrx.01.ber.de.net.telefonica.de (62.53.11.125) 80% 7.2 ms [AS6805] TDDE-ASN1, DE
5. dfn.bcix.de (193.178.185.42) 20% 16.9 ms IXP BCIX (Berlin Commercial Internet Exchange)
6. cr-han2-be7.x-win.dfn.de (188.1.144.137) 80% 18.4 ms (WIN-IP / IP networking on DFN's Wissenschaftsnetz "X-WiN")
7. ??? 100% * (No reply)
8. ??? 100% * (No reply)
9. ??? 100% * (No reply)
10. 195.37.234.33 20% 19.6 ms [AS680] DFN Verein zur Foerderung eines Deutschen Forschungsnetzes e.V., DE
11. out (195.37.209.187) 80% 26.2 ms [AS680] DFN Verein zur Foerderung eines Deutschen Forschungsnetzes e.V., DE
Trace completed in 31 seconds on 2023-02-20 08:18:44 CET
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│ AS path to www.mpim-bonn.mpg.de │
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6805 TDDE-ASN1 (Local AS)
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╰ IXP BCIX (Berlin Commercial Internet Exchange)
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╰680 DFN Verein zur Foerderung eines Deutschen Forschungsnetzes e.V.
Would you mind sharing the output of:
whois 188.1.144.57 | grep -i -E "^netname:|^orgname:|^org-name:|^owner:|^descr:|^country:" | grep -i -E "^orgname:|^org-name:|^owner:" | cut -d ':' -f 2 | sed 's/^[ \t]*//' | while read -r line; do echo -n "$line / "; done | sed 's/ \/ $//'
and
host -t TXT "57.144.1.188.origin.asn.cymru.com" | awk -F'"' 'NR==1{print $2}' | sed 's/\ *|\ */|/g'
from the machine you ran the traces from?
I'm under the impression you're getting different whois / Team Cymru DNS lookup results than I am. For example in your first trace, when I run it locally I also pass through the hop cr-ham1-be8.x-win.dfn.de (188.1.144.57)
, but unlike your output (which appears to be a fallback whois lookup), my asn
maps that correctly to AS680 (and that happens through a DNS lookup using Team Cymru).
Also (shooting in the dark here), but is that high packet loss percentage in your traces normal?
$ whois 188.1.144.57 | grep -i -E "^netname:|^orgname:|^org-name:|^owner:|^descr:|^country:" | grep -i -E "^orgname:|^org-name:|^owner:" | cut -d ':' -f 2 | sed 's/^[ \t]*//' | while read -r line; do echo -n "$line / "; done | sed 's/ \/ $//'
Verein zur Foerderung eines Deutschen Forschungsnetzes e.V.
$ host -t TXT "57.144.1.188.origin.asn.cymru.com" | awk -F'"' 'NR==1{print $2}' | sed 's/\ *|\ */|/g'
680|188.1.0.0/16|DE|ripencc|1994-08-05
Also (shooting in the dark here), but is that high packet loss percentage in your traces normal?
No idea, where that comes from.
$ mtr -z -s 10 -r -c 10 bigbluebutton.molgen.mpg.de
Start: 2023-03-08T21:54:34+0100
HOST: ersatz Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev
1. AS??? o2.box 90.0% 10 0.6 0.6 0.6 0.6 0.0
2. AS6805 loopback1.0003.acln 90.0% 10 6.5 6.5 6.5 6.5 0.0
3. AS6805 ae14-0.0002.dbrx.02 90.0% 10 6.7 6.7 6.7 6.7 0.0
4. AS6805 ae1-0.0002.prrx.02. 90.0% 10 6.4 6.4 6.4 6.4 0.0
5. AS??? dfn.bcix.de 10.0% 10 17.0 17.3 17.0 17.6 0.2
6. AS??? ??? 100.0 10 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
7. AS??? ??? 100.0 10 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
8. AS??? ??? 100.0 10 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
9. AS??? ??? 100.0 10 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
10. AS680 bigbluebutton.molge 10.0% 10 17.5 17.5 17.1 18.1 0.3
There is no packet loss with ping
.
$ ping -c10 o2.box
PING o2.box(_gateway (fe80::1%eno1)) 56 data bytes
64 bytes from _gateway (fe80::1%eno1): icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.615 ms
64 bytes from _gateway (fe80::1%eno1): icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.720 ms
64 bytes from _gateway (fe80::1%eno1): icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=0.673 ms
64 bytes from _gateway (fe80::1%eno1): icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=0.577 ms
64 bytes from _gateway (fe80::1%eno1): icmp_seq=5 ttl=64 time=0.589 ms
64 bytes from _gateway (fe80::1%eno1): icmp_seq=6 ttl=64 time=0.573 ms
64 bytes from _gateway (fe80::1%eno1): icmp_seq=7 ttl=64 time=0.550 ms
64 bytes from _gateway (fe80::1%eno1): icmp_seq=8 ttl=64 time=0.575 ms
64 bytes from _gateway (fe80::1%eno1): icmp_seq=9 ttl=64 time=0.680 ms
64 bytes from fe80::1%eno1: icmp_seq=10 ttl=64 time=0.603 ms
--- o2.box ping statistics ---
10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 13499ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.550/0.615/0.720/0.053 ms
Hello @paulmenzel,
have there been any changes lately to your results? I still find this puzzling, because I cannot reproduce this behavior in any way on any of my test boxes.
Curious if it was just a temporary network hiccup (those latencies), or Cymru fault (the missing output), or the behavior is consistent.
Have a nice day!
I am using
Then:
The AS path information is missing the last AS680. It’s present in the
mtr
output: