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This is a discussion log of #zeronet:freenode.net. Most messages posted here (except from Ivanq) are created by others. Please don't report messages you don't like; communicate with me directly instead and I will remove them if they violate GitHub TOS.

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Ivanq: And another test Ivanq: And another one just in case Ivanq: Let's check whether PONGs are being sent correctly now Ivanq: The log is currently available at https://github.com/imachug/zeronet-irc-listener/issues/1 filips123: ZeroNetCrawler Hello! Do you work correctly? Ivanq: Yeah it does filips123: Ivanq What about logs until now? I guess that they are not needed to be present there as we (at least I) have them saved (from your file) and not there wasn't much important discussion. filips123: Also, can you also display time in your logs? filips123: Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/27643ed4413a492e17ea43f500acaae8/ZeroNet%20IRC%20logs.txt filips123: Let's check how file upload logs work... Ivanq: Give me a sec filips123: Ah, ok. Files are just displayed as links.

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Ivanq: filips123 I'm starting it on GuNIX now Ivanq: Ok, it works now. I hope it won't break Ivanq: I have to leave now so yeah... Ivanq: Oh, time!..

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(2019-11-09 15:12) Ivanq: Test message (2019-11-09 15:12) Ivanq: There, time is added now (2019-11-09 15:12) Ivanq: Bye! (2019-11-09 15:12) filips123: In which timezone it is? (2019-11-09 15:13) filips123: I might be good to have it in UTC. (2019-11-09 15:16) Ivanq: Aw, will fix

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(2019-11-09 21:16) Ivanq: Testing UTC timestamps (2019-11-09 21:17) Ivanq: THere (2019-11-09 21:17) filips123: Where is source code of bot? (2019-11-09 21:17) Ivanq: It's closed-source because my GitHub access token and IRC password are there, lol (2019-11-09 21:18) filips123: Can you remove them and post code? I would like to see how did you do that. (2019-11-09 21:20) Ivanq: Wait (2019-11-09 21:20) Ivanq: They say files expire in 2 hours! (2019-11-09 21:20) Ivanq: So please download the logs I posted (2019-11-09 21:21) filips123: Also, there are some problems with my .bashrc on PoNIX. Can you check this? (2019-11-09 21:21) Ivanq: Bot source code: main.zip (2019-11-09 21:21) Ivanq: What's wrong? (2019-11-09 21:22) Ivanq: It looks ok to me (2019-11-09 21:23) Ivanq: Actually I have to leave now, so unless you have some important problems, I'll leave soon (2019-11-09 21:24) Ivanq: filips123 (2019-11-09 21:26) Ivanq: Ok, actually leaving now

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15:46:39 <filips123> Ivanq Antifa just created PR on repository: https://github.com/HelloZeroNet/ZeroNet/pull/2296
15:50:10 <filips123> I don't know any we need 10 more files (COPYING, LICENSE, ChangeLog, INSTALL, CONTRIBUTORS) just for license change. All of that things are already described either in README (installation, documentation...) or GitHub itself (change-log is in GitHub Releases, contributors are also displayed automatically...). The only file changes needed would be
15:50:10 <filips123> LICENSE (with new license text) and README (with short license notice).
15:51:10 <Ivanq> Ok... so I guess INSTALL is not required
15:51:11 <filips123> Yes, this is how FSF recommends things, but this recommendations were created a long before GitHub had all this features and now they (recommendations) are basically useless.
15:51:59 <Ivanq> CONTRIBUTORS is not required as well as long as ZeroNet is distributed with Git
15:52:14 <Ivanq> How is COPYING different from LICENSE?
15:53:06 <filips123> Antifa says that LICENSE contains short license notice and COPYING full license text. But I don't know why is this needed if short license notice can already be explained in README or other docs.
15:53:38 <filips123> Multiple license-related files will also confuse GitHub to show "view license file"/"unknown license" instead of correct license.
15:54:35 <Ivanq> https://stackoverflow.com/a/5678716
15:56:27 <filips123> It "suggests" that, not requires. Most modern projects (even GPL-licensed) are only using one file. Multiple files also confuse GitHub and if everything is explained correctly, just LICENSE is probably enough.
15:56:53 <filips123> Also:
15:56:56 <filips123> > while the Producing Open Source Software book suggests either COPYING or LICENSE
15:57:31 <Ivanq> Yeah, I see.
15:57:41 <Ivanq> I just wanted to show that LICENSE+COPYING is not the only way
15:57:51 <Ivanq> *And* many projects don't use two files
15:58:12 <filips123> Yes, this is true
16:06:14 <filips123> I will need to go now, so please log messages if there will be any discussion
16:09:38 <Ivanq> kk
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18:18:24 <krzysztof113_> Hi
18:18:38 <krzysztof113_> antifa still around?
18:25:47 <Ivanq> Not really
18:25:51 <Ivanq> He hasn't shown up yet
18:25:52 <Ivanq> 
18:27:09 <krzysztof113_> haven't been in this chat for a long time, do I recall correctly that previously not registration was required?
18:28:11 <krzysztof113_> *no
18:30:42 <Ivanq> Registration is required if someone has used this username before AFAIK
18:30:57 <Ivanq> It's easy to register via NickServ... if you haven't done that already, lol
18:31:07 <krzysztof113_> at the moment it's required for everyone
18:31:36 <krzysztof113_> I had to, but it was at least problematic on a phone
18:31:42 <krzysztof113_> had to move to pc
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18:45:01 <ur_0x6a73> Hello.
18:45:14 <ur_0x6a73> My server went down a few hours ago, sorry.
18:45:27 <ur_0x6a73> It should work properly now though.
18:47:22 <ur_0x6a73> BTW, is antifa here?
18:52:17 <Ivanq> nope
18:53:10 <ur_0x6a73> Great.
18:53:21 <Ivanq> lol
18:56:45 <ur_0x6a73> yea, lol
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19:19:31 <Ivanq> Hey psymin
19:19:38 <psymin> Hey
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19:41:25 <ur_0x6a73> hey
19:41:32 <Ivanq> I've left for a sec... has anything happened?
19:42:13 <ur_0x6a73> Nope
19:45:51 <filips123> If antifa will come and I won't be online at that time (also if I won't say anything, even if I will be online, as I will probably leave this in background), please ask him this and give me the answer:
19:46:19 <filips123> Why do we need 10 more files just for license change? All of those things are already described either in README or GitHub itself. The only file changes needed would be LICENSE (with new license text) and README (with short license notice).In README, there is already an installation and usage section and documentation. Short license notice (LICENSE
19:46:19 <filips123> file in your changes) should also be just added to section of README.Change log and contributors are also displayed on GitHub website (change log is in GitHub Releases, contributors are also displayed automatically on list), so additional files are useless.Yes, this is how FSF recommends things, but these recommendations were created a long time
19:46:20 <filips123> before GitHub had all these features and now they (recommendations) are basically useless. Multiple license-related files will also confuse GitHub to show "view license file"/"unknown license" instead of correct license and most modern open-source projects just use single LICENSE file with short notice in README.
19:46:27 <filips123> I already aksed this on his PR on GitHub, but he still didn't reply.
19:46:49 <filips123> Here is that PR: https://github.com/HelloZeroNet/ZeroNet/pull/2296
19:47:42 <filips123> Also, this I another thing I want to ask him:
19:47:46 <filips123> So you own copyright for detecting and handling MIME types? Why then don't you sue Apache or other web servers which use the same way of handling MIME types?Or even better, where is your proof that you didn't steal that code from Apache or another web server?
19:48:01 <filips123> It is from ZeroNet's voting issue: https://github.com/HelloZeroNet/ZeroNet/issues/2273#issuecomment-552094293
19:49:30 <ur_0x6a73> OK
19:50:31 <ur_0x6a73> filips123: BTW, about that second question - I've already asked him the same thing and he just called everyone nazis
19:52:54 <psymin> is antifa a username or something?
19:53:20 <ur_0x6a73> Yep, it's that guy's github username.
19:53:39 <ur_0x6a73> I mean, the guy who spammed the hell out of Zeronet's issue tracker with pure nonsense.
19:54:02 <Ivanq> filips123 I'll try to
19:54:38 <Ivanq> We're waiting for a guy who wants to destroy our work, lol
19:54:43 <Ivanq> Better get back to OpenSSL bindings...
19:55:38 <filips123> psymin That user had multiple usernames. First of them was "hacktivist". After he was banned from GitHub multiple times for violating their ToS, he created "antifa" username. It was also banned and since then, he has new username almost every day.
19:55:54 <Ivanq> Is there a word filter here?
19:56:02 <filips123> Currently, his username is "CyberSecurityEngineer"
19:56:14 <Ivanq> One of his usernames was fukcyouintheass so you can kinda predict how much he wants to stop us...
19:56:22 <Ivanq> And I'm not referring to the meaning... I'm referring to typos
20:00:56 <ur_0x6a73> BTW, apparently, he's forking the Zeronet repo or adding reactions in it each time he's creating a new account, so It'd be trivial to create a simple utility for finding his new accounts
20:01:51 <Ivanq> Heeeeey
20:01:53 <Ivanq> That's an idea!
20:02:05 <Ivanq> Do you think GitHub API can monitor users?
20:02:19 <ur_0x6a73> Yea, I think so.
20:02:28 <ur_0x6a73> At least the v3 API should work.
20:02:39 <filips123> Even if it doesn't have API, we can still download HTML and parse it somehow
20:03:17 <filips123> This should be possible with Python, and if they require JS to load page, we can use Selenium WebDriver
20:03:22 <ur_0x6a73> Nah, I've checked it out a few hours ago. You can download the whole list of all forks and then check when user joined or when the repo was created.
20:04:02 <ur_0x6a73> I'll write some utility in Haskell once I finish doing some stuff right now (porting QuickJS to OpenBSD and playing Minecraft :p)
20:05:51 <filips123> How will you differ from real forks?
20:06:59 <filips123> There can be real new user who forked ZeroNet to create PR.
20:07:41 <ur_0x6a73> Hm, I guess manual verification is the way.
20:08:06 <ur_0x6a73> It'd be great to be able to use these to just report his accounts to Github tbh
20:09:10 <Ivanq> You'd better switch to a private discussion, lol
20:12:23 <ur_0x6a73> Yep, filips123 what do you think?
20:13:22 <filips123> Maybe you could also check if that account recently commented or downvoted a lot of comments on voting issue
20:13:44 <filips123> But it might be still good to manually review account before reporting
20:14:20 <filips123> Other than that, I don't have other ideas so we probably don't need to continue this discussion
20:18:13 <ur_0x6a73> Yeah, you're right.
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20:33:16 <Ivanq> Hello krzystof113
20:33:26 <Ivanq> krzysztof113
20:33:34 <Ivanq> Nothing interesting has happened
20:33:55 <Ivanq> We've thought about automatically finding antifa's new profiles though
20:34:05 <Ivanq> Maybe filips123 or ur_0x6a73 will write a script
20:40:16 <krzysztof113> 
20:42:45 <krzysztof113> nofish visits here?
20:43:18 <Ivanq> Not really...
20:43:25 <Ivanq> At least I haven't seen him commenting here
20:43:34 <Ivanq> It kinda difficult to talk to him in chat, you know
20:43:54 <Ivanq> Last time I made him come and chat only when I found an RCE...
20:44:09 <krzysztof113> RCE?
20:44:40 <Ivanq> Remote Code Execution
20:44:53 <krzysztof113> right
20:46:04 <krzysztof113> do you have knowledge about ZN roadmap?
20:46:40 <Ivanq> What roadmap? Do you mean the features we're going to add?
20:46:57 <krzysztof113> especially py3 rollout
20:46:59 <Ivanq> I'm working on some low-level stuff now. I want to get the license issue resolved ASAP so I'm making my won MIT libs
20:47:03 <Ivanq> *own
20:47:07 <filips123> Py3 is already availible
20:47:15 <Ivanq> By coincidence, these libs turned out to be faster than what ZeroNet uses...
20:47:18 <Ivanq> so that might be kinda helpful
20:47:26 <krzysztof113> I found that my extension doesn't work with py3...
20:47:28 <Ivanq> I'm making sure there are no memory leaks though, hi valgrind
20:47:33 <Ivanq> Which one?
20:48:02 <Ivanq> Just in case, I seldom visit IRC but you can often find me on matrix. I'm @ivanq:amorgan.xyz
20:48:17 <filips123> Then you need to manually fix it. Python 3 is incompatible with Python 2 so there may be some unsupported code in your extension
20:48:31 <krzysztof113> and there is no way to determine the client version
20:48:39 <Ivanq> Right.
20:48:51 <krzysztof113> I look for supporting only most popular version
20:48:53 <Ivanq> So you make two plugins: one for Py2 and another for Py3
20:48:57 <Ivanq> Actually, Py2 is kinda outdated...
20:49:06 <Ivanq> And it's EOL'ed in two months so yeah...
20:49:22 <krzysztof113> the python part work both with py3 and 2 but path is different
20:49:26 <filips123> Yes there is: use `zeroframe.cmd('serverInfo')` and check for `rev` and `version` keys of JSON response
20:49:48 <krzysztof113> it's browser extension, not plugin
20:49:50 <filips123> Also, you don't need to support Python 2 as its EOL is in 2 months
20:50:03 <Ivanq> Oh? It's not a plugin then, lol
20:50:11 <filips123> What's then problem with browser extension?
20:50:15 <filips123> And what it does?
20:50:42 <krzysztof113> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/zeronet-helper/
20:51:35 <Ivanq> Ah, *that* one
20:51:35 <filips123> If you can access ZeroNet's WebSocket API, you can use command I previously mentioned to check version.
20:51:36 <krzysztof113> I plan to switch path for py3 runtime/bin, but I'd like to know if it's crystalized
20:51:51 <filips123> Also, what exactly does not work?
20:51:51 <Ivanq> Well, it's stable if that's what you mean
20:52:37 <krzysztof113> it shouldn't be updating from py2 by itself?
20:52:47 <filips123> No, as it uses diffreant runtime
20:53:33 <krzysztof113> I was imaging that ZN will be updating like chrome and replacing it's version by itself...
20:53:42 <filips123> You need to manually download it, copy `data` folder into new version and start new one
20:53:50 <krzysztof113> but I guess it's too much expectation
20:53:56 <krzysztof113> I did
20:54:04 <filips123> After you have py3 version, you can automatically update to another newer py3 version
20:54:19 <filips123> The only problem is update from py3 to py3
20:54:28 <filips123> py2 to py3
20:54:39 <krzysztof113> do we have knowledge about percentage of py3 vs py2 version?
20:54:48 <filips123> Most people use py3 I think
20:55:05 <Ivanq> You can take a look at Stats
20:55:15 <filips123> I recommend you to check http://127.0.0.1:43110/Stats for peer versions
20:55:16 <krzysztof113> I had on client and proxy py2
20:55:17 <Ivanq> Unfortunately proxies Stats are disabled so we can't get a big overview
20:55:46 <Ivanq> Here are stats from my proxy though
20:55:51 <Ivanq> Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/5435120b31e6ed26b6e9505f0e5742e3/pasted.txt
20:55:55 <filips123> Also, please update to py3 as it has better performance and new features
20:56:23 <Ivanq> BTW, if you're only making an extension it should be rather easy to make it work on both py2 and py3
20:56:24 <filips123> Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/beae6cfb1a0e9501348b42b4da91a59f/pasted.txt
20:56:28 <krzysztof113> 0.7* means py3?
20:56:32 <filips123> Yes
20:57:01 <Ivanq> YEah
20:57:14 <krzysztof113> my script supports both python buy I wasn't even aware that py3 version have different path
20:57:24 <Ivanq> What path?
20:57:34 <Ivanq> ZeroNet-Internal/Websocket?
20:58:05 <filips123> Or maybe Python path?
20:58:08 <krzysztof113> py3 /runtime/bin/
20:58:26 <krzysztof113> py2 /Python
20:58:27 <Ivanq> Ah
20:58:45 <Ivanq> I guess nofish switched to another packaging system
20:58:47 <krzysztof113> I'm more of js guy then python
20:59:25 <krzysztof113> majority has 0.7*
21:00:56 <krzysztof113> so it's hard to erradicate py2 version?
21:02:17 <Ivanq> Well... some people prefer not to update unless necessary
21:03:07 <filips123> Update to supported Python version is not necessary?
21:03:48 <krzysztof113> support is not really relevant as it's bundled
21:04:12 <krzysztof113> it still wouldn't be updated by os package manager
21:04:32 <filips123> It is relevant. I'm talking about Python 2 EOL which will be on Jan 1 2020. After that, Python 2 won't receive any security fixes.
21:05:13 <filips123> (Finally...)
21:05:18 <krzysztof113> maybe I don't know if python was update along with ZN updates?
21:05:23 <krzysztof113> *updated
21:05:46 <filips123> No. I think that that feature was only added to py3 version.
21:06:18 <krzysztof113> so It's still not updated version
21:06:26 <filips123> But I suggested nofish to back-port it to py2.
21:06:58 <filips123> No, if you use py2 version, you need to manually download ZeroNet, copy your `data` folder and start new version
21:07:15 <filips123> After that, you can automatically update from py3 to newer py3 version from UI
21:07:51 <krzysztof113> that's not what I meant...
21:08:00 <krzysztof113> but maybe it's the wiskey
21:08:12 <filips123> What do you then mean?
21:08:46 <krzysztof113> the version of python bundled with py2 version of ZN was updated?
21:08:56 <filips123> No
21:09:06 <filips123> If you mean ZeroBundle
21:09:10 <krzysztof113> yes...
21:09:34 <krzysztof113> so the security patches of python were irrelevant
21:09:47 <krzysztof113> only upgrade do py3 is
21:13:49 <filips123> Yes... My point is that you need to update to py3 in order to receive new features and security fixes. I think that py3 version can update python bundled with it, but I'm now sure when is this used.
21:15:12 <krzysztof113> that's for sure
21:16:15 <krzysztof113> I have some concept for android (again) helper app for ZN...
21:16:32 <krzysztof113> do we have someone on board that can publish the app to google play?
21:18:35 <Ivanq> You might want to ask mkg20001 and d14na
21:19:36 <krzysztof113> spoke with Maciej some time ago and he wanted out of ZN
21:20:13 <krzysztof113> but you are right d14na has this ZN explorer in which I don't totally don't know what's about
21:27:05 <Ivanq> Why did he want to leave ZN though?
21:27:12 <Ivanq> I kinda know the answer but still...
21:28:02 <krzysztof113> I don't know, people change interest
21:32:33 <filips123> Ivanq Did you do anything about Git Center update or ZeroNet Reddit alternative?
21:32:53 <Ivanq> Not really... I don't have much free time now
21:33:02 <Ivanq> I also found out that I like low-level stuff more
21:33:27 <Ivanq> Writing OpenSSL bindings, my own cryptographic libraries and ZeroNet sandbox turned out to be more interesting than creating sites
21:33:42 <filips123> I know
21:33:57 <filips123> But Git Center would help you developing this things...
21:34:03 <Ivanq> Well somewhat
21:34:20 <Ivanq> Lol, can someone make me want to work on Git Center again... please
21:34:20 <krzysztof113> Ivanq sign in the clouds
21:35:04 <filips123> How?
21:36:14 <Ivanq> No idea
21:36:19 <Ivanq> I wouldn't ask you if I knew
21:37:02 <filips123> Also, one idea. It would be good that Git Center would support also other VCS systems (Git, Mercurial, Pijul...). I think that if new version of it (which should be written first) would be correctly modular, it shouldn't be hard to support multiple VCSs, maybe as some plugins. Also, then it might be good to call it Code Center as it won't be just
21:37:02 <filips123> for Git.
21:37:14 <filips123> But first you would need to make new Git Center version.
21:37:49 <Ivanq> "But first you would need to make new Git Center version." xD
21:50:28 <filips123> https://github.com/HelloZeroNet/ZeroNet/pull/2296
21:50:32 <filips123> Again
21:52:30 <krzysztof113> anyway gotta say that antifa IS persistent
21:54:29 <Ivanq> Eeeeeh
21:54:31 <Ivanq> Good old antifa
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22:45:04 <filips123> Do anyone has the logs of this discussion? I will need to restart my client but I don't want to lose logs.
22:58:05 <Ivanq> Well somewhat... idk whether I can export them from kiwix
22:58:09 <Ivanq> *kiwiIRC
23:00:57 <filips123> I think that KiwiIRC does not support this yet. So the only option is to just copy and paste text.
23:01:08 <filips123> Or is someone running logger in background?
23:05:02 <Ivanq> Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/b7302eb2812e3ca8b3cbef660c31f875/pasted.txt
23:05:14 <Ivanq> There. Some fast scripts and...

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(2019-11-10 06:24) Ivanq: Sorry, the listener was offline for a while... I'm invistigating, lol

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(2019-11-10 18:30) *ZeroNetCrawler* joined #zeronet (2019-11-10 18:32) filips123: Test (2019-11-10 18:53) krzysztof113 quit (2019-11-10 18:54) Ivanq: We're probably going to be unlucky with: (2019-11-10 18:54) Ivanq: TheNain38 (2019-11-10 18:54) Ivanq: radfish (2019-11-10 18:54) Ivanq: MuxZeroNet (2019-11-10 18:54) Ivanq: rainlime (2019-11-10 18:54) Ivanq: barrabinfc (2019-11-10 18:55) Ivanq: Th3B3st (2019-11-10 18:55) Ivanq: erqan (2019-11-10 18:55) Ivanq: nathantym (2019-11-10 18:55) Ivanq: Emeraude (2019-11-10 18:55) Ivanq: frerepoulet (2019-11-10 18:55) Ivanq: jTeego (2019-11-10 18:56) Ivanq: rarbg (2019-11-10 18:56) Ivanq: ppsfassa (2019-11-10 18:56) Ivanq: mishfit (2019-11-10 18:56) Ivanq: ajmeese7 (2019-11-10 18:57) Ivanq: Austin-Williams (2019-11-10 18:57) Ivanq: Good God... what happened to this guy? https://github.com/ajmeese7 (2019-11-10 18:58) Ivanq: Derson5 (2019-11-10 18:58) Ivanq: dldx (2019-11-10 18:58) Ivanq: EdenSG (2019-11-10 18:58) Ivanq: Erkan-Yilmaz (2019-11-10 18:58) Ivanq: gyulaweber (2019-11-10 18:59) Ivanq: shakna-israel (2019-11-10 18:59) Ivanq: justinwiley (2019-11-10 18:59) Ivanq: Nodeswitch (2019-11-10 18:59) Ivanq: RedbHawk (2019-11-10 18:59) Ivanq: dqwyy (2019-11-10 18:59) Ivanq: krikmo (2019-11-10 19:00) Ivanq: mnlg (2019-11-10 19:00) Ivanq: saber28 (2019-11-10 19:00) Ivanq: zwgshr (2019-11-10 19:00) Ivanq: Let me check whether any of them have assigned emails (2019-11-10 19:01) Ivanq: TheNain38 has Tox: A205506F2036B4118D0733F8FBECC42C72AA45ED565F80DA3B2E56EA8FAABB7F859E8F6D5552 (2019-11-10 19:15) Ivanq: Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/67cb8f8f048a14615c2fb9e0558a7088/pasted.txt (2019-11-10 19:17) filips123: Can you also check for ZeroID accounts? (2019-11-10 19:18) filips123: Also, I see that you left "none" for some of the accounts although they contain email in commit. (2019-11-10 19:18) Ivanq: Yeah, I haven't checked commits yet (2019-11-10 19:19) Ivanq: I just parsed their GitHub profiles for now (2019-11-10 19:19) Ivanq: I guess these would be more accurate (2019-11-10 19:19) krzysztof113 joined #zeronet (2019-11-10 19:19) filips123: Check all possible options... (2019-11-10 19:19) Ivanq: Yeah (2019-11-10 19:23) Ivanq: Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/492661c8d8c04752144888a02045479f/pasted.txt (2019-11-10 19:24) filips123: What about that two missing accounts? (2019-11-10 19:24) Ivanq: There are a few others without email as well (2019-11-10 19:25) filips123: So they are using that email generated by GitHub? (2019-11-10 19:26) Ivanq: Not really (2019-11-10 19:26) Ivanq: wait a sec (2019-11-10 19:26) Ivanq: Damn (2019-11-10 19:26) filips123: Then what? (2019-11-10 19:26) Ivanq: frerepoulet's selfhosted mail is down (2019-11-10 19:26) Ivanq: And I can't find jTeego at all! (2019-11-10 19:27) Ivanq: mnlg and MuxZeroNet both have closed emails (2019-11-10 19:27) Ivanq: Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/d5ddc8d166eec282c235c57323a8e9bb/pasted.txt (2019-11-10 19:27) Ivanq:** Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/3287c62a8fc5a73887daf67dfe2c46ab/pasted.txt

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(2019-11-10 19:44) *ZeroNetCrawler* joined #zeronet (2019-11-10 19:44) Ivanq: YAYYYYYYYYYYYYY (2019-11-10 19:45) Ivanq: It took it 10 minutes to reconnect, lol (2019-11-10 19:45) filips123: Why? (2019-11-10 19:45) filips123:** And why did it even disconnect?

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(2019-11-10 19:46) *ZeroNetCrawler* joined #zeronet (2019-11-10 19:46) Ivanq: Waiting till next IP change yeah (2019-11-10 19:47) filips123: Why does IP change? And why does it takes to long to reconnect? (2019-11-10 19:47) Ivanq: No ieda (2019-11-10 19:47) Ivanq: No idea (2019-11-10 19:47) Ivanq: I was using some unstable ways of reconnection (2019-11-10 19:47) Ivanq: I've just made it kill the script now (2019-11-10 19:48) Ivanq: We'll see whether it works better (2019-11-10 19:48) Ivanq: mnlg is the one who created ZeroWiki (2019-11-10 19:48) filips123: Also, this was missed from logs: (2019-11-10 19:48) filips123: > frerepoulet is probably up4@zeroid.bit (2019-11-10 19:49) krzysztof113 quit (2019-11-10 19:51) Ivanq: https://github.com/HelloZeroNet/ZeroNet/issues/2273#issuecomment-552227395 yayyyyyy (2019-11-10 19:52) krzysztof113* joined #zeronet (2019-11-10 19:58) filips123: I will try to set up LogBot.info for this channel (2019-11-10 19:58) filips123: But I don't know if it will work because I'm not channel OP (2019-11-10 19:59) Ivanq: Neither am I (2019-11-10 20:00) filips123: Ok, it doesn't work... Any other way to invite account if you are not OP? (2019-11-10 20:00) Ivanq: Is it an account or a service? (2019-11-10 20:01) filips123: https://freenode.logbot.info/ (2019-11-10 20:01) filips123: A channel OP can invite "globbot" into the channel using the IRC /invite command. (2019-11-10 20:01) Ivanq: Ok, I think you can't do that then (2019-11-10 20:06) filips123: Who is OP? (2019-11-10 20:06) Ivanq: Oh God (2019-11-10 20:07) filips123: I tried to find some other public logger but not many public IRC loggers exist. (2019-11-10 20:07) Ivanq: We don't even know who created ZeroWiki... (2019-11-10 20:07) Ivanq: And only a few years have passed... (2019-11-10 20:07) Ivanq: WTF, why the heck did nofish add archiving!! (2019-11-10 20:08) filips123: What? (2019-11-10 20:08) Ivanq: Uh? (2019-11-10 20:09) Ivanq: It's doublec (2019-11-10 20:09) Ivanq: Last seen: now (2019-11-10 20:10) Ivanq: Do you want me to tell him anything? (2019-11-10 20:10) filips123: First edits to few ZeroWiki pages were made by cub3@zeroid.bit (2019-11-10 20:12) Ivanq: Right... but I couldn't find any messages from him on ZeroTalk (2019-11-10 20:12) Ivanq: Anyways, I doubt we'll contact him (2019-11-10 20:18) Ivanq: Wait... GitHub says jTeego contributed but he didn't (2019-11-10 20:18) filips123: https://github.com/HelloZeroNet/ZeroNet/commits?author=jTeego (2019-11-10 20:19) Ivanq: Oh (2019-11-10 20:20) Ivanq: Ah, so he's TigerND actually! (2019-11-10 20:23) Ivanq: filips123 I have to leave now, can you ping everyone on ZeroNet as well? (2019-11-10 20:23) Ivanq: Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/440488cb3eb5065a1683602a5da69921/pasted.txt (2019-11-10 20:24) filips123: Ivanq Do you have their ZeroIDs? (2019-11-10 20:24) Ivanq: Not really (2019-11-10 20:24) filips123: Some are not using the same as on GitHub (2019-11-10 20:24) Ivanq: Erkan-Yilmaz was probably the guy who created ZeroVerse though (2019-11-10 20:24) Ivanq: TheNain38 has voted already (2019-11-10 20:24) filips123: Also, will creating ZeroTalk topic and mentioning their usernames be enough? (2019-11-10 20:25) filips123: And with similar message than in GitHub issue. (2019-11-10 20:27) Ivanq: I think so (2019-11-10 20:28) filips123: For now, I will just try to ping the same usernames as for GitHub, but if you know any that are different, please let me know. (2019-11-10 20:29) Ivanq: k (2019-11-10 20:29) Ivanq: Just use @erkan instead of Erkan-Yilmaz (2019-11-10 20:29) Ivanq: And remove TheNain38 (2019-11-10 20:29) Ivanq: And use @up4 for frerepoulet (2019-11-10 20:30) Ivanq: Oh, and maybe also ping the usernames from their emails (2019-11-10 20:30) filips123: How? (2019-11-10 20:31) filips123: Also, do you think this will be OK: (2019-11-10 20:31) krzysztof113: you're looking for ZN contributors in regard of license? (2019-11-10 20:31) filips123: Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/65cc64a4265ea30db5b3c4932983e12b/pasted.txt (2019-11-10 20:31) filips123: krzysztof113 Yes (2019-11-10 20:33) filips123: Ivanq ? (2019-11-10 20:36) Ivanq: lgtm (2019-11-10 20:36) filips123: Should user mentions be placed in topic content or in first comment? (2019-11-10 20:36) Ivanq: Topic content I think (2019-11-10 20:38) Ivanq: I'm leaving now, is that ok? (2019-11-10 20:38) filips123: Just wait few minutes until I create topic (2019-11-10 20:38) Ivanq: k (2019-11-10 20:41) filips123: http://127.0.0.1:43110/Talk.ZeroNetwork.bit/?Topic:1573418495_1LFu1BTScmY82HHtg3TY2jAuSrCYNsQWEY/Contributor+Agreement+for+License+Change

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(2019-11-10 20:45) *ZeroNetCrawler* joined #zeronet (2019-11-10 20:45) filips123: Testing LogBot logger... (2019-11-10 20:45) Ivanq: Lol, I can't open that link for some reason... (2019-11-10 20:46) Ivanq: Actually, ZeroNetCrawler reconnected rather quickly this time (2019-11-10 20:47) Ivanq: It works via Tor though... whatever (2019-11-10 20:47) Ivanq: Anyways, cool! We have some working loggers now (2019-11-10 20:48) Ivanq: doublec Have you left ZeroNet btw? (2019-11-10 20:48) doublec: Ivanq: no, I still use it (2019-11-10 20:48) Ivanq: Oh, are you doublec or do you have another ZeroID? (2019-11-10 20:48) Ivanq: I don't remember seeing your username (2019-11-10 20:49) doublec: Ivanq: I'm bluishcoder - I mirror my blog there (2019-11-10 20:49) Ivanq: Oh, cool! (2019-11-10 20:50) Ivanq: Gonna take a look at your blog soon... (2019-11-10 20:50) krzysztof113: is there a wall of fame for Zeronet? :) (2019-11-10 20:50) Ivanq: Yeah sure. There's just a big "nofish" name on it (2019-11-10 20:50) filips123: There is some section of known ZeroNet developers on ZeroWiki AFAIK (2019-11-10 20:50) Ivanq: It's on New ZeroWiki actually (2019-11-10 20:50) Ivanq: (the Krixano's one) (2019-11-10 20:50) Ivanq: Anyways, I have to leave now... Bye! (2019-11-10 20:51) Ivanq quit (2019-11-10 20:52) filips123: I will also need to go soon. Two loggers now work, so I hope I won't miss anything. (2019-11-10 21:02) krzysztof113 quit (2019-11-10 21:08) zeronet joined #zeronet (2019-11-10 21:10) zeronet: Where is my Serbian friend? :) (2019-11-10 21:13) zeronet: Because too much shit happened in GitHub I going to start a GitLab instance on a server owned by me. The new repository will be available on https://git.zeronet.website (2019-11-10 21:14) filips123: Oh, so you came here... (2019-11-10 21:14) filips123: You just missed Ivanq. (2019-11-10 21:14) zeronet: Yes because I have read you logs (2019-11-10 21:15) zeronet: I know (2019-11-10 21:15) filips123: And I will also go soon. (2019-11-10 21:15) filips123: And you discovered logs :) (2019-11-10 21:15) zeronet: Yes (2019-11-10 21:15) zeronet: Look (2019-11-10 21:16) zeronet: even if the GitHub repository not going to be comply with the license as I said right now I working on a GitLab instance which is going to include all those files what you hate (2019-11-10 21:16) zeronet: also that repository will be licensed under GLPv3+ (2019-11-10 21:16) zeronet: I will distribute ZeroNet in that way (2019-11-10 21:18) zeronet: I'm strongly against GitHub and I was banned from the HelloZeroNet repository more than 12 times (2019-11-10 21:18) zeronet: which is in its own disgusting (2019-11-10 21:18) zeronet: Tamas Kocsis is a shithead (2019-11-10 21:19) filips123: Because you violated their ToS (2019-11-10 21:19) zeronet: bullshit (2019-11-10 21:19) filips123: Spamming, trolling, death threats... (2019-11-10 21:20) zeronet: I was very respectfully reported that ZeroNet violates many licenses (and copyright of others) right after that my pull request is closed and the "code" I added is modified and included in ZeroNet core without giving me any credit (2019-11-10 21:20) zeronet: which is another copyright infringement (2019-11-10 21:20) zeronet: I don't see why the development should be limited to GitHub (2019-11-10 21:21) zeronet: Specially don't udnerstand how Tamas Kocsis can do copy from pull requests without giving credit to the contributor (2019-11-10 21:24) zeronet: don't come here to play the victim because ZeroNet is not the victim here (2019-11-10 21:27) zeronet: and honestly if ZeroNet repository is censored, users are discredited and the whole thing is run by a Hungarian neo-Nazi than GitHub repository should be ignored all together (2019-11-10 21:27) zeronet: there are many good people who can and will contribute to the new repository I going to set up (2019-11-10 21:28) zeronet: we don't need fucking fascists to ban people, discredit people, close pull request and than copy code from it and merge it in own name (2019-11-10 21:28) zeronet: what kind of person close a pull request and merge it in his own name? I tell you: a motherfucker (2019-11-10 21:29) zeronet: about the license under which ZeroNet is distributed I must say is a big shame that for years nobody even find it out that ZeroNet is violating neraly all licenses which shipped in the source code (2019-11-10 21:30) zeronet: when I reported this I was immediately attacked which is just as disgraceful as it sounds (2019-11-10 21:31) zeronet: then https://github.com/krixano and https://github.com/imachug come up with the idea of starting a vote (2019-11-10 21:31) zeronet: the vote which absolutely nonsense (2019-11-10 21:31) zeronet: there is nothing can be done but to remove the GPLv2 license and replace it with GPLv3+ (2019-11-10 21:32) zeronet: regarding the logs https://github.com/imachug/zeronet-irc-listener/issues/1 you mentioned that no need for LICENSE and COPYING whuile imachug also said that no need for INSTALL file either (2019-11-10 21:33) zeronet: I telling you again that GPLv3+ must represented as I did. (2019-11-10 21:34) zeronet: LICENSE has the short license as you seen, COPYING has the full license, INSTALL must have instructions on how to install ZeroNet, ChangeLog must list the latest changes in the source code (2019-11-10 21:34) filips123: > for years nobody even find it out that ZeroNet is violating neraly all licensesThen create your own big project big as ZeroNet and carefully check every dependency and dpendency of dependency for license. (2019-11-10 21:34) zeronet: this is how a normal person would do and this is how the Free Software Foundation recommends it. (2019-11-10 21:35) filips123: > when I reported this I was immediately attacked which is just as disgraceful as it soundsNo, you started spamming and trolling and with threats. (2019-11-10 21:35) zeronet: I actually going to rename ZeroNet (2019-11-10 21:35) zeronet: Do anyone knows why is called ZeroNet? (2019-11-10 21:35) zeronet: I can tell you (2019-11-10 21:36) filips123: > this is how a normal person would do and this is how the Free Software Foundation recommends it.Which normal person? All modern GitHub projects just use LICENSE file and explain other things in README or use GitHub tools for this. And GitHub also recommends this. (2019-11-10 21:36) zeronet: How many times I need to tell you (2019-11-10 21:36) zeronet: I DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT GITHUB (2019-11-10 21:36) filips123: Until you tell me something... (2019-11-10 21:37) zeronet: what you wanna hear? (2019-11-10 21:38) zeronet: When I give ZeroNet source code to somebody who has a GNU/Linux in they system all files includeing ChangeLog, INSTALL, LICENSE and COPYING should be shipped and the OS will decet those files accordingly (2019-11-10 21:38) filips123: Why do you need 10 more files if you can specify all those things in README, LICENSE and GitHub tools? And FSF recommendations were created a long before that gitHub tools exist. (2019-11-10 21:38) zeronet: who the fuck gives a damn about GitHub? (2019-11-10 21:39) zeronet: FSF recommendations were created a long before that gitHub tools exist :D Seriously? and the GPLv2 license when its written? 1991! :D (2019-11-10 21:39) filips123: Maybe because ZeroNet is hosted on GitHub? And it is the same with GitLab and any other modern VCS website. (2019-11-10 21:39) zeronet: not for long hosted there (2019-11-10 21:39) zeronet: I working on it (2019-11-10 21:39) filips123: ? (2019-11-10 21:39) zeronet: fuck Microsoft and you too if you want to put files into ZeroNet as GitHub says you must do (2019-11-10 21:41) zeronet: Here is the original ZeroNet: https://sourceforge.net/projects/zeronet/ this is why named ZeroNet, Tamas Kocsis started learning about Bitcoin and he was browsing SourceForge (https://sourceforge.net/projects/bitcoin/) and named his software ZeroNet (2019-11-10 21:41) filips123: > and the OS will decet those files accordingly - And what will it do with that files? Except that they will take unnecessary disk space? (2019-11-10 21:42) zeronet: I will rename ZeroNet and get rid of all the ZeroNetwork.bit domains as well (2019-11-10 21:42) filips123: Then you will just have Zero :) (2019-11-10 21:43) zeronet: I think ZeroNet should not ship in its source any third party resources like ZeroNetwork.bit (2019-11-10 21:44) filips123: And yes, that SourceForge ZeroNet is totally related to this ZeroNet... (2019-11-10 21:44) zeronet: it should be just a pure core which allows people to expand it without needing to download anything what Tamas Kocsis included in it (2019-11-10 21:44) filips123: That's why it needs to be re-licensed as MIT (at least core libraries). (2019-11-10 21:45) zeronet:** no no

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(2019-11-10 21:48) *ZeroNetCrawler* joined #zeronet (2019-11-10 21:49) filips123: And it is back! (2019-11-10 21:49) zeronet: :D (2019-11-10 21:49) zeronet: So funny (2019-11-10 21:50) zeronet: this is a search engine for ZeroNet or this is an archiver? :D (2019-11-10 21:50) filips123: Logger of discussion (2019-11-10 21:50) zeronet: :D (2019-11-10 21:50) zeronet: XD (2019-11-10 21:50) filips123: I see that you are very excited! (2019-11-10 21:51) zeronet: ohh yes (2019-11-10 21:51) zeronet: I'm shaking in fear (2019-11-10 21:51) zeronet: :') (2019-11-10 21:54) filips123: Good for you. (2019-11-10 21:54) filips123: Can you explain why we will also receive your happiness too? (2019-11-10 21:54) zeronet: I'm working man (2019-11-10 21:54) zeronet: what is this cryptic shot (2019-11-10 21:55) zeronet: shit (2019-11-10 21:55) zeronet: talk to me normally (2019-11-10 21:55) filips123: Yes... (2019-11-10 21:56) zeronet: My real name is Antonio Bandita and I live in Spain, Madrid (2019-11-10 21:56) zeronet: if you want to know... (2019-11-10 21:57) zeronet: 8) (2019-11-10 22:02) zeronet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1fRcfcj5To Electronic money from Satoshi Nakamoto... Slash you into little pieces :D (2019-11-10 22:04) filips123: Explain? (2019-11-10 22:05) zeronet: Want you want to see in your log? tell me filips? (2019-11-10 22:06) filips123: What you want to display in log? (2019-11-10 22:07) zeronet: I'm Hungarian (2019-11-10 22:07) zeronet: in reality (2019-11-10 22:07) zeronet: and I'm someone who is a master in Wing Tsun (2019-11-10 22:07) zeronet: this helps to find me (2019-11-10 22:07) zeronet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_NuvNSJSJs (2019-11-10 22:09) zeronet: 8) (2019-11-10 22:10) filips123: I don't want to find you... (2019-11-10 22:11) zeronet: That would painful :') (2019-11-10 22:11) zeronet: be (2019-11-10 22:11) zeronet: I just want the best for ZeroNet (2019-11-10 22:11) zeronet: seriously (2019-11-10 22:12) zeronet: and I think that Tamas Kocsis and the shitty Github repository don't need for this, specially when its abusive and not giving credit to contributors (2019-11-10 22:12) zeronet: This all started because he did not given me any credit (2019-11-10 22:13) zeronet: I did a scan on the source code and tadaaa it showed me I'm not the only one whose copyrights and licenses are violated (2019-11-10 22:14) zeronet: I want ZeroNet to be on GPLv3+ (2019-11-10 22:14) zeronet: and most contributors want the same too (2019-11-10 22:14) zeronet: for a very clear reason (2019-11-10 22:14) filips123: Licenses were not violated intentionally (2019-11-10 22:14) zeronet: nobody cares (2019-11-10 22:15) zeronet: it is violated (2019-11-10 22:15) zeronet: that matters (2019-11-10 22:15) filips123: But MIT, or other similar permissive license, would make easier for third-party developers to integrate custom solutions for ZeroNet. (2019-11-10 22:15) filips123: The only think that would be licensed as MIT would be core libraries. Project as whole would still be licensed as GPL. (2019-11-10 22:16) filips123: thing (2019-11-10 22:19) filips123: That core libraries would be used for integration with third-party solutions. Project as whole would be used as today. (2019-11-10 22:19) filips123: The advantage of this would be that MIT is compatible with most other licenses so developers of that third-party solutions won't have to worry about incompatibles so much. (2019-11-10 22:21) filips123: I need to go now. (2019-11-10 22:21) filips123: Bye! (2019-11-10 22:21) filips123 quit (2019-11-10 22:25) zeronet: https://github.com/HelloZeroNet/ZeroBlog (2019-11-10 22:25) zeronet: https://github.com/HelloZeroNet/ZeroMail (2019-11-10 22:25) zeronet: all licensed under GPLv2 (2019-11-10 22:25) zeronet: XD (2019-11-10 22:25) zeronet: man... the problem is bigger than I thought (2019-11-10 22:26) zeronet: this can't be included also in ZeroNet anymore (2019-11-10 22:26) zeronet: :') (2019-11-10 22:26) zeronet: what a joke (2019-11-10 22:27) zeronet: XD (2019-11-10 22:29) zeronet: ZeroNet core must be licensed under GPLv3+ as the voting also indicates and this ones like ZeroBlog ZeroMail Talk and others should be MIT (2019-11-10 22:31) zeronet: https://github.com/HelloZeroNet/ZeroNet/issues/2273#issuecomment-552238666 @filips123 the violation happens all the time when you distribute the software under a license which not permitted! (2019-11-10 22:32) zeronet: also post here the message you sent to FSF (2019-11-10 22:36) zeronet: But MIT, or other similar permissive license, would make easier for third-party developers to integrate custom solutions for ZeroNet. XD XD XD GPLv3+ also makes it easy! It is compatible with Apache 2.0 and others so seriously remove the GPLv2 and upgrade to GPLv3+ (2019-11-10 22:37) zeronet: I'm so angry (2019-11-10 22:37) zeronet: wasting time for stupid voting while there no other option than upgrade the license to GPLv3+ (2019-11-10 22:38) zeronet: everyone who has knowledge about this license issue should upgrade they licenses in the repositories before even thinking about to distribute the ZeroNet software (2019-11-10 22:38) zeronet: also ZeroBlog and others also should be upgraded as MIT (2019-11-10 22:39) zeronet: wait (2019-11-10 22:39) zeronet: that is not possible either (2019-11-10 22:39) zeronet: all those also must be GPLv3! (2019-11-10 22:56) zeronet: I'm a Russian and I urge all nations to invade and bomb the shit out of the United States of America and Israel also attack Hungary and kill Orban Viktor and other fascist leaders in Europe (2019-11-10 22:56) zeronet: O:3 (2019-11-10 23:00) zeronet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jfGlWbNeIE <3 <3 <3 <3 (2019-11-10 23:02) psymin_* quit (2019-11-10 23:04) zeronet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCwDjduZ_BU Russian Secret Service vs American Terrorists XD

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(2019-11-11 15:53) *ZeroNetCrawler* joined #zeronet (2019-11-11 16:10) filips123: > Where is my Serbian friend? :) (2019-11-11 16:10) filips123: What? (2019-11-11 16:11) filips123: > ZeroBlog ZeroMail all licensed under GPLv2 (2019-11-11 16:11) filips123: > man... the problem is bigger than I thought (2019-11-11 16:11) filips123: > this can't be included also in ZeroNet anymore (2019-11-11 16:11) filips123: What do you don't understand? That are sites! Site license it not related to protocol/implementation license in any way! (2019-11-11 16:11) filips123: Do you think all websites then need to be open source if you use open source browser or because web is open source? (2019-11-11 16:12) filips123: > ZeroNet core must be licensed under GPLv3+ as the voting also indicates and this ones like ZeroBlog ZeroMail Talk and others should be MIT (2019-11-11 16:12) filips123: ZeroNet core libraries should be licensed under MIT. (2019-11-11 16:12) filips123: ZeroNet as whole project should be licensed as GPLv3+. (2019-11-11 16:12) filips123: ZeroNet sites should remain the same. (2019-11-11 16:13) filips123: > GPLv3+ also makes it easy! It is compatible with Apache 2.0 and others so seriously remove the GPLv2 and upgrade to GPLv3+ (2019-11-11 16:13) filips123: GPL forces developers to license code that uses GPL-licensed libraries also under GPL. This doesn't makes easy to use it and can also defect ZeroNet popularity in third-party solutions. (2019-11-11 16:14) filips123: > wasting time for stupid voting while there no other option than upgrade the license to GPLv3+ (2019-11-11 16:14) filips123: Future releases can also be licensed as MIT! (2019-11-11 16:15) filips123: > also ZeroBlog and others also should be upgraded as MIT (2019-11-11 16:15) filips123: Why? (2019-11-11 16:16) filips123: > Отаџбина моја! (2019-11-11 16:16) filips123: What? (2019-11-11 16:17) filips123: > The stupid crawler not even works (2019-11-11 16:17) filips123: It reconnects every few hours. But it works. (2019-11-11 16:18) filips123: > is there a guide to have multiple ZN instances on one machine? (2019-11-11 16:18) filips123: You can set up different UI port for each instance. (2019-11-11 16:33) zeronet joined #zeronet (2019-11-11 16:33) zeronet: nobody asked you about instances (2019-11-11 16:33) zeronet: and you clearly fucking don't understand the licenses (2019-11-11 16:34) zeronet: you talk about MIT like a retard (2019-11-11 16:34) zeronet: the ZeroNet core namely https://github.com/HelloZeroNet/ZeroNet is going to be GPLv3+ (2019-11-11 16:34) zeronet: I don't give a shit about anything else (2019-11-11 16:35) zeronet: but worth noting (2019-11-11 16:35) filips123: > nobody asked you about instances (2019-11-11 16:35) filips123: And what is this: (2019-11-11 16:35) zeronet: HelloZero ZeroBlog ZeroMail CAN'T BE LICENSED AS GPLv2!!!!!! (2019-11-11 16:35) filips123: > 00:26 krzysztof113 is there a guide to have multiple ZN instances on one machine? (2019-11-11 16:35) filips123: > HelloZero ZeroBlog ZeroMail CAN'T BE LICENSED AS GPLv2!!!!!! (2019-11-11 16:35) filips123: Why? (2019-11-11 16:36) zeronet: because they incompatible and you shipping them together! (2019-11-11 16:36) filips123: The aren't shipped together!!! (2019-11-11 16:36) zeronet: bullshit$ (2019-11-11 16:36) filips123: What do you don't understand? (2019-11-11 16:36) zeronet: they downloaded when user connects (2019-11-11 16:36) zeronet: automatically (2019-11-11 16:36) zeronet: at least hellozero and zeroname (2019-11-11 16:36) filips123: No they aren't (2019-11-11 16:36) filips123: The are only downloaded when you visit them (2019-11-11 16:37) filips123: You can change to use other sites than ZeroHello and ZeroName (2019-11-11 16:37) zeronet: HelloZero and ZeroName automatically downloading (2019-11-11 16:37) zeronet: don't bullshit me because you know that youo are wrong (2019-11-11 16:37) filips123: And as they are downloaded separetly, this don't count in license (2019-11-11 16:38) filips123: So what? Because Google links other site, should all other sites use Google's license? (2019-11-11 16:38) zeronet: actually HelloZero is forced on the users! (2019-11-11 16:38) zeronet: second (2019-11-11 16:38) filips123: You can change it to another site address (2019-11-11 16:38) zeronet: HelloZero is broken in Tor Browser (2019-11-11 16:38) filips123: Explain (2019-11-11 16:38) zeronet: because those who wrote the CSS don't understand the difference % and PX (2019-11-11 16:39) zeronet: Go and download tor browser and you will see (2019-11-11 16:39) filips123: Yes? Ok... (2019-11-11 16:40) filips123: ZeroHello can be changed with --homepage argument (2019-11-11 16:40) zeronet: Line 3500 in all.js in HelloZero also have a typo (2019-11-11 16:40) zeronet: "You can delete your site using the site's sidebar." (2019-11-11 16:41) zeronet: It should be: "You can't delete your site using the site's sidebar!" (2019-11-11 16:41) filips123: Why? (2019-11-11 16:41) zeronet: what why? (2019-11-11 16:41) zeronet: what you don0t udnerstand? (2019-11-11 16:41) filips123: You CAN delete it using site's sidebar (2019-11-11 16:41) zeronet: No you can't!!!! (2019-11-11 16:42) zeronet: you can delete sites you downloaded but not the ones which you own!!! (2019-11-11 16:42) filips123: What is then this? (2019-11-11 16:42) zeronet: "You can't delete your site using the site's sidebar!" (2019-11-11 16:42) filips123: Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/a72c55023b72d8e2f812d3486e495a27/slika.png (2019-11-11 16:42) filips123: For my own site! (2019-11-11 16:42) zeronet: no such thing (2019-11-11 16:43) zeronet: as I said line 3500 in all.js in HelloZero have a typo (2019-11-11 16:43) zeronet: You can delete your site using the site's sidebar. is WRONG (2019-11-11 16:43) zeronet: It should be "You can't delete your site using the site's sidebar!" (2019-11-11 16:44) filips123: Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/caf44c069a0247ed42e63eef9f0d3962/slika.png (2019-11-11 16:44) filips123: There is such button! (2019-11-11 16:44) zeronet: fuck you with your Windows shit (2019-11-11 16:44) zeronet: you think everyone fucking running shitty Windows? (2019-11-11 16:46) zeronet: Linux darkside 5.3.0-custom-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.3.7-darklord (2019-11-06) x86_64 GNU/Linux (2019-11-11 16:48) zeronet: Download py3 (run that), open ZeroNet in tor browser and than try to delete your own site! Also you will see that the CSS and the stupid PX values in that CSS quiet a bit looks shit! (2019-11-11 16:49) zeronet: In Hungary everyone using PX values in CSS? (2019-11-11 16:49) zeronet: What a shit! (2019-11-11 16:49) zeronet: You can say right 70% left side 30 % and than go and give values to #settings etc... (2019-11-11 16:49) zeronet:** not fucking pixels

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(2019-11-11 18:59) *ZeroNetCrawler* joined #zeronet (2019-11-11 18:59) zeronet: nice (2019-11-11 18:59) filips123: Yes (2019-11-11 19:00) zeronet: How old are you filips? (2019-11-11 19:00) zeronet: just a question (2019-11-11 19:00) filips123: Why do you need to know? (2019-11-11 19:00) zeronet: I don't need to (2019-11-11 19:00) zeronet: but I ask because I'm interested (2019-11-11 19:06) zeronet: GPLv3+: 48.5% (50) (2019-11-11 19:06) zeronet: GPLv3-only: 29.1% (30) (2019-11-11 19:06) zeronet: (y) (2019-11-11 19:07) zeronet: two more vite for GPLv3+ and the voting can be ended (2019-11-11 19:07) zeronet: vote (2019-11-11 19:07) filips123: Why? (2019-11-11 19:07) filips123: We need 100% consent (2019-11-11 19:07) zeronet: you will never have 100% consent you retard (2019-11-11 19:07) zeronet: are you and krixano a fucking kid? (2019-11-11 19:08) filips123: Almost 100% consent... (2019-11-11 19:08) zeronet: what the fuck are you talking about? (2019-11-11 19:08) zeronet: not everyone need to vote (2019-11-11 19:08) filips123: We need agreement from contributors to change license (2019-11-11 19:09) zeronet: I 'm a contributor too and you, imachug and krixano can suck my dick (2019-11-11 19:09) zeronet: he voting can be closed (2019-11-11 19:09) zeronet: clearly most contributors voted for GPLv3+ (2019-11-11 19:11) zeronet: only you, imachug and krixano are so fucking disgusting that want to limit the use of ZeroNet so you motherfuckers are threath to ZeroNet NOT ME (2019-11-11 19:12) zeronet: I'm someone who did reported this license issue and I do have way more knowledge about licenses than all you 3 combined (2019-11-11 19:13) zeronet: I also archiving the vote because I suspect clear fraud behind it anyways (2019-11-11 19:13) zeronet: https://web.archive.org/web/20191111191046/https://github.com/HelloZeroNet/ZeroNet/issues/2273 (2019-11-11 19:13) zeronet: look at those options (2019-11-11 19:13) zeronet: 6 times mentions GPLv3-only and 2 times mentions GPLv3+ as options (2019-11-11 19:14) zeronet: clearly who wrote that text is a fucking retard (2019-11-11 19:14) zeronet: and many contributors voiced they concerns about the same thing as me (2019-11-11 19:15) zeronet: you imachug and krixano deserve to be spitted on the face (2019-11-11 19:15) zeronet: I'm sorry to say but this is the truth (2019-11-11 19:15) zeronet: just reading the fucking comments what you 3 posted (2019-11-11 19:15) zeronet: is very shameful (2019-11-11 19:16) filips123: > 6 times mentions GPLv3-only and 2 times mentions GPLv3+ as options (2019-11-11 19:16) filips123: What? (2019-11-11 19:16) zeronet: the fucking voting options (2019-11-11 19:16) filips123: What's wrong with them? (2019-11-11 19:17) zeronet: GPLv3 and Lax if you accept switching to either GPLv3 or later or to GPLv3-only or a Lax/Permissive licenseGPLv3+ and Lax if you accept switching to either GPLv3 or later or a Lax/Permissive licenseGPLv3-only and Lax if you accept switching to either GPLv3-only or a Lax/Permissive licenseGPLv3+ if you accept switching to GPLv3 or (2019-11-11 19:17) zeronet: laterGPLv3-only if you accept switching to GPLv3-onlyGPLv3 if you accept switching to either GPLv3 or later or to GPLv3-only (2019-11-11 19:17) zeronet: count it how many times mentions GPLv3-only and how many times mentions GPLv3+ (2019-11-11 19:17) zeronet: you motherfuckers manipulating even the voting (2019-11-11 19:18) filips123: GPLv3+ => 4 times (2019-11-11 19:18) filips123: GPLV3 only => 3 times (2019-11-11 19:18) zeronet: no (2019-11-11 19:18) zeronet: 2 (2019-11-11 19:18) filips123: 4 times (2019-11-11 19:18) zeronet: thow fucking times (2019-11-11 19:18) zeronet: two (2019-11-11 19:18) filips123: GPLv3 and Lax if you accept switching to either GPLv3 or later or to GPLv3-only (2019-11-11 19:18) filips123: GPLv3 if you accept switching to either GPLv3 or later or to GPLv3-only (2019-11-11 19:19) zeronet: and what is that OR to GPLv3-only you fucking retard? (2019-11-11 19:19) filips123: Yes, OR. So both GPLv3+ and GPLv3 only have 4 options (2019-11-11 19:19) zeronet: bullshit (2019-11-11 19:19) zeronet: you motherfuckers want ZeroNet to be on GPLv3-only (2019-11-11 19:19) zeronet: fucking krixano was the fisr who voted (2019-11-11 19:20) zeronet: and he voted GPLv3-only (2019-11-11 19:20) zeronet: I tell you now (2019-11-11 19:20) zeronet: NOT GOING TO HAPPEN (2019-11-11 19:20) filips123: Oh? How suprising... Somebody has to put first vote, right? (2019-11-11 19:20) zeronet: ZeroNet is going to be GPLv3+ or NOTHING (2019-11-11 19:20) filips123: And he changed his vote later (2019-11-11 19:20) filips123: Why? (2019-11-11 19:20) zeronet: what why? (2019-11-11 19:21) zeronet: because most contributors do listen to me!!!!! (2019-11-11 19:21) filips123: For example, why it can't be permissive license? (2019-11-11 19:21) zeronet: they see all these conversations and they are not retarded like you imachug and krxano (2019-11-11 19:21) zeronet: because you cant fucking switch from GPL to any other license (2019-11-11 19:22) zeronet: how many times I need to say (2019-11-11 19:22) filips123: Yes, sure. People on 4Chan and Reddit also saw all your conversations and comments. (2019-11-11 19:22) zeronet: ?? (2019-11-11 19:22) zeronet: I don't give a shit (2019-11-11 19:22) filips123: You can! Future releases can be relisensed to other license. Many projects already did that. (2019-11-11 19:22) zeronet: they can lick my ass as well (2019-11-11 19:22) zeronet: I will not allow you motherfucker to destroy ZeroNet (2019-11-11 19:23) zeronet: is going to be GPLv3+ (2019-11-11 19:23) zeronet: got it? (2019-11-11 19:23) filips123: Allowing more people to use ZeroNet would destroy it? (2019-11-11 19:23) zeronet: because you can't fucking switch the license you rearded fuck (2019-11-11 19:23) zeronet: it must be GPL (2019-11-11 19:23) zeronet: and it can't be GPLv2! (2019-11-11 19:23) filips123: You can! (2019-11-11 19:23) zeronet: NO (2019-11-11 19:23) filips123: Future releases can be relisensed to other license. (2019-11-11 19:23) zeronet: NO (2019-11-11 19:24) filips123: Why? (2019-11-11 19:24) zeronet: You can't revoke my rights and nobody can revoke the rights granted under GPL you fucking idiot (2019-11-11 19:24) filips123: What is then with all projects which switched from GPL to MIT/BSD? (2019-11-11 19:24) zeronet: nobody did that (2019-11-11 19:24) zeronet: show me just one you fuck (2019-11-11 19:24) filips123: Nobody will revoke your rights! only future releases would be licensed as MIT! (2019-11-11 19:25) zeronet: I clearly said (2019-11-11 19:25) zeronet: I will distribute ZeroNet under GPLv3+ NO MATTER WHAT (2019-11-11 19:25) filips123: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_relicensing (2019-11-11 19:25) zeronet: Who said fucking MIT in the voting you fuck (2019-11-11 19:26) filips123: What? (2019-11-11 19:26) zeronet: show me where MIT leads the voting you retard (2019-11-11 19:26) zeronet: clearly most contributors want the same as me (2019-11-11 19:27) zeronet: you krixano and fucking imachug is the only one who spamming the comments in the voting trying to limit the us of ZeroNet (2019-11-11 19:27) filips123: > The Vorbis library was originally licensed as LGPL, but in 2001 the license was changed to the BSD license with endorsement of Richard Stallman to encourage adoption. (2019-11-11 19:27) filips123: > In 2010 the OGRE project changed their license from the LGPL to the MIT License; a simpler license text was given as reason. (2019-11-11 19:27) filips123: > Another case was the relicensing of GPLv2 licensed linux kernel header files to the BSD license by Google for their Android library Bionic. (2019-11-11 19:27) filips123: In 2014 Gang Garrison 2 relicensed from GPLv3 to MPL for improved library compatibility. (2019-11-11 19:27) zeronet: They all own the entire software (2019-11-11 19:27) zeronet: you fucking retard (2019-11-11 19:28) filips123: And what is the difference if contributors agree? (2019-11-11 19:28) zeronet: nobody owns ZeroNet (2019-11-11 19:28) filips123: ? (2019-11-11 19:28) zeronet: and it is distributed to more than 2.000 people (2019-11-11 19:28) zeronet: under GPL (2019-11-11 19:28) filips123: So it is in public domain? (2019-11-11 19:28) zeronet: it is (2019-11-11 19:28) filips123: Then you can relicense it to any license you want. (2019-11-11 19:28) zeronet: if not GPLv3+ than ZeroNet is on the public domain automatically (2019-11-11 19:29) filips123: Then you can relicense it to any license you want. (2019-11-11 19:29) zeronet: not my contribution (2019-11-11 19:29) zeronet: You fucking filips (2019-11-11 19:29) filips123: Then your contribution (so nothing) is not in public domain? (2019-11-11 19:29) zeronet: I going to punch you in the face if I ever see you (2019-11-11 19:30) zeronet: I even print the MIT license and you going to eat it (2019-11-11 19:30) filips123: (And then you are wondering why were you banned from GitHub...) (2019-11-11 19:30) zeronet: How many times I need to say (2019-11-11 19:30) zeronet: ZeroNet is going to be liberated from all those fucking censors who censring the GitHub repository (2019-11-11 19:31) zeronet: in the other hand I dont give a shit about GitHub (2019-11-11 19:31) filips123: Permissive license would make it more liberated (2019-11-11 19:31) zeronet: only you care about fucking GitHub because you are on fucking Windows and probably using GitHub desktop (2019-11-11 19:31) zeronet: what permissive you fuck? (2019-11-11 19:31) zeronet: where the MIT license allows patents? (2019-11-11 19:31) zeronet: nowhere (2019-11-11 19:32) filips123: > A permissive software license, sometimes also called BSD-like or BSD-style license, is a free-software license with minimal requirements about how the software can be redistributed. Examples include the GNU All-permissive License, MIT License, BSD licenses, Apple Public Source License and Apache license. As of 2016, the most popular free-software (2019-11-11 19:32) filips123: license is the permissive MIT license.[ (2019-11-11 19:32) filips123: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permissive_software_license (2019-11-11 19:32) zeronet: in the other hand ZeroNet is violated more than 3 different licenses and copyrights of many people FOR FUCKING YEARS (2019-11-11 19:32) zeronet: so fuck you now filips (2019-11-11 19:33) zeronet: go and hangyourself with the MIT lucense sticked deep into your fucking ass (2019-11-11 19:33) filips123: It was not intentionally! (2019-11-11 19:33) filips123: Then you create big project and care about all license stuff yourself. (2019-11-11 19:33) zeronet: I will not intentionally beat the shit ouot of you and throw a bullet into your head (2019-11-11 19:34) zeronet: I will say to the police it was not intentional (2019-11-11 19:34) zeronet: they fucking don't believe it (2019-11-11 19:34) zeronet: right in this moment ZeroNet is a criminal project! (2019-11-11 19:35) zeronet: criminal copyright infringement as well because the project collected more than 10 BTC with that distributing illegal software (2019-11-11 19:35) zeronet: criminal copyright infringement for financial gain and direct violation of many licenses (2019-11-11 19:36) zeronet: you now cry to me about MIT license? fuck you! (2019-11-11 19:36) zeronet: Is going to be GPLv3+ and we will be protected from fucking Tamas Kocsis as well (2019-11-11 19:37) zeronet: GPLv3+ protectes users from abusive maintainers and have requirements which states need to give credit to contributors (2019-11-11 19:37) zeronet: considering that Tamas Kocsis has a mania to merge pull request in his name GPLv3+ is essential! (2019-11-11 19:38) zeronet: THis is why most people vote for GPLv3+ (2019-11-11 19:38) zeronet: they do understand what I'm saying (2019-11-11 19:38) zeronet: they not retarded like you, krixano and imachug (2019-11-11 19:39) zeronet: I going to register a patent also just noting this (2019-11-11 19:39) zeronet: I incorporate ZeroNet into my system (2019-11-11 19:40) zeronet: and the good thing is that EVERYONE can register a patent and nobody can sue the other for doing so! (2019-11-11 19:42) zeronet: Under GPLv3+ ZeroNet will have a bright future and will spread like a virus! You will see! (2019-11-11 19:44) filips123: But it will force and third-party solution built on ZeroNet to be licensed as GPLv3+ as well (2019-11-11 19:44) zeronet: No (2019-11-11 19:44) zeronet: third party licenses like Apache 2.0 MIT BSD all compatible with GPLv3+ (2019-11-11 19:44) valdikss quit (2019-11-11 19:45) filips123: > No; incorporating or linking against GPL requires that your project-as-a-whole be distributed under GPL. But you can include MIT licensed parts (or another GPL-compatible license) in the project. Also, it depends. (2019-11-11 19:46) zeronet: you try to argue but you have no point! (2019-11-11 19:46) zeronet: don't you realize? (2019-11-11 19:46) filips123: Explain (2019-11-11 19:46) zeronet: you talk nonsense (2019-11-11 19:47) filips123: Explain so I will now (2019-11-11 19:48) filips123:* know (2019-11-11 19:48) zeronet: Whatch something from Debian legal team instead (2019-11-11 19:49) zeronet: Debian Legal: https://youtu.be/QeesybDNgQw?t=81 (have 22 views) ;( (2019-11-11 19:50) filips123: Can you do a summary? (2019-11-11 19:50) zeronet: no

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(2019-11-12 18:03) *ZeroNetCrawler joined #zeronet (2019-11-12 18:08) Ivanq joined #zeronet (2019-11-12 18:25) nocent parted #zeronet (2019-11-12 18:54) zeronet* joined #zeronet (2019-11-12 18:54) zeronet: Ivanq (2019-11-12 18:54) Ivanq: Oh, hi (2019-11-12 18:54) zeronet: tell me about you fascist actions (2019-11-12 18:54) Ivanq: Are you monitoring the chat or what? (2019-11-12 18:55) Ivanq: You've joined just now but it looks like if you were looking for me or something... (2019-11-12 18:55) Ivanq: What fascist actions are you talking about? (2019-11-12 18:55) zeronet: We couldn't connect to the server :( Closing Link: 78.157.211.238 (* Banned ) (2019-11-12 18:55) zeronet: talk about this (2019-11-12 18:55) zeronet:* We couldn't connect to the server :( Closing Link: 78.157.211.238 ( Banned ) (2019-11-12 18:55) Ivanq: Oh? (2019-11-12 18:55) zeronet: youa re a fucking Nazi shit (2019-11-12 18:55) Ivanq: What's that IP? (2019-11-12 18:55) Ivanq: Where did you find that at all? (2019-11-12 18:55) zeronet: thats awhat are no? you Hungarian shit (2019-11-12 18:55) Ivanq: Can we please stop being harmful and talk about problems instead? (2019-11-12 18:56) Ivanq: What is the "We couldn't connect" message? (2019-11-12 18:56) Ivanq: Where did it come from? (2019-11-12 18:56) zeronet: you and other Hungarians are reported more than 12 account to GitHub and now to freenode also (2019-11-12 18:56) zeronet: I tell you waht you fuck (2019-11-12 18:56) Ivanq: Oh (2019-11-12 18:56) zeronet: Fucking freenode (2019-11-12 18:56) Ivanq: I haven't reported you (2019-11-12 18:56) zeronet: bullshit (2019-11-12 18:56) Ivanq: I mean.. at least you don't harness me here (2019-11-12 18:56) Ivanq: ...much (2019-11-12 18:57) zeronet: the big ZeroNet (2019-11-12 18:57) zeronet: huh? (2019-11-12 18:57) zeronet: censorship resistant shit (2019-11-12 18:57) zeronet: don't you Hungarian Nazi shit feel shameful? (2019-11-12 18:57) Ivanq: Uh sorry but I don't (2019-11-12 18:57) Ivanq: Feel free to harness everyone on ZeroNet (2019-11-12 18:57) zeronet: by the way the other half of the people here on freenode are from Washington DC (2019-11-12 18:57) Ivanq: But please remain respectful on where we develop it (2019-11-12 18:58) zeronet: Hungary, Poland and fucking USA (2019-11-12 18:58) zeronet: all there are fascist Nati states (2019-11-12 18:58) zeronet: Nzi fuck (2019-11-12 18:58) Ivanq: How is that related to software development? (2019-11-12 18:58) zeronet: ZeroNet is not belong to Hungary (2019-11-12 18:58) zeronet: neither to you (2019-11-12 18:58) zeronet: did you invented Bitcoin? (2019-11-12 18:59) zeronet: did you invented BitTorrent? (2019-11-12 18:59) Ivanq: No I didn't (2019-11-12 18:59) Ivanq: If you're referring to me, not us (2019-11-12 18:59) Ivanq: idk whether there's a Satoshi hiding anywhere nearby... (2019-11-12 18:59) zeronet: Even Tamas Kocsis stated that ZeroNet is inspored by BitTorrent who worked on similar network (2019-11-12 18:59) zeronet: inspired (2019-11-12 19:00) Ivanq: Hm... not really, it wasn't a similar network (2019-11-12 19:00) zeronet: basically you all violating licenses of many people, infringing copyrights of many people including me (2019-11-12 19:00) Ivanq: I mean... all networks are about the same (2019-11-12 19:00) Ivanq: And ZeroNet just made it really easy for non-technical users (2019-11-12 19:01) Ivanq: you just download and use it ... most other networks don't have good UI unfortunately (2019-11-12 19:01) zeronet: So (2019-11-12 19:01) zeronet: when the fuck you stop distributing ZeroNet? (2019-11-12 19:02) zeronet: for more than a week I recording everything on GitHub (2019-11-12 19:02) Ivanq: Ok, we are* violating lots of licenses (2019-11-12 19:02) Ivanq: Now, let me ask you a question, ok? (2019-11-12 19:02) Ivanq: Just answer yes or no (2019-11-12 19:02) Ivanq: zeronet (2019-11-12 19:02) zeronet: sure (2019-11-12 19:02) zeronet: what is the question

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(2019-11-12 19:05) *ZeroNetCrawler* joined #zeronet (2019-11-12 19:05) Ivanq: [10:04:53 PM] you know exactly which lines are originates from me (2019-11-12 19:06) Ivanq: (just repeating for ZeroNetCrawler) (2019-11-12 19:07) zeronet: you shithead talking that I did not contributed to ZeroNet while clearly I did, you also said here: https://github.com/HelloZeroNet/ZeroNet/issues/2273#issuecomment-552288731"Btw, AFAIK translations are contributions - not to code, but to data." (2019-11-12 19:07) Ivanq: Translations are contributions. (2019-11-12 19:07) Ivanq: Ideas are not contributions. (2019-11-12 19:07) zeronet: if fucking translations are contributions according to yourself than I demand that you give me credit for my contribution in UiRequest.py (2019-11-12 19:08) Ivanq: What. Code. Did. Nofish. Copy? (2019-11-12 19:08) filips123 joined #zeronet (2019-11-12 19:08) Ivanq: Hey filips123 (2019-11-12 19:08) zeronet: Actually I did not shared ideas! I shared code in a pull request! Which was closed and the code copied and modified in order to discredit me (2019-11-12 19:08) Ivanq: We're having a small battle here... (2019-11-12 19:08) Ivanq: zeronet What code did nofish copy? (2019-11-12 19:08) Ivanq: Just line numbers please. (2019-11-12 19:10) zeronet: https://github.com/HelloZeroNet/ZeroNet/pull/2248 (2019-11-12 19:10) zeronet: go and see yourself (2019-11-12 19:10) Ivanq: No, I don't understand what code nofish copied. Please point me at the copied code. (2019-11-12 19:11) zeronet: You know exactly (2019-11-12 19:11) zeronet: I was fixed multiple problems in ZeroNet (2019-11-12 19:11) zeronet: including the font loading (2019-11-12 19:11) zeronet: you are fucking disgraceful Hungarian shit (2019-11-12 19:11) Ivanq: No, I don't know what code nofish copied. (2019-11-12 19:11) Ivanq: Can you point me at the lines? (2019-11-12 19:11) Ivanq: Or at least at the parts (2019-11-12 19:12) zeronet: you can see his merges (2019-11-12 19:12) zeronet: and can see my submission (2019-11-12 19:12) zeronet: clearly he copied from me (2019-11-12 19:13) Ivanq: No, it's not clear to me. (2019-11-12 19:13) Ivanq: Krixano has attached some diffs (2019-11-12 19:13) zeronet: because you arw a fucking Hungarian retarded shit (2019-11-12 19:13) Ivanq: And literally no code was copied (2019-11-12 19:13) zeronet: yes (2019-11-12 19:13) filips123: So handling MIME types according to IANA is copyrighted? (2019-11-12 19:13) Ivanq: Can you support your opinion with something more than harnessing? (2019-11-12 19:13) zeronet: for years ZeroNet had many problems with font's encoding etc (2019-11-12 19:13) zeronet: I fixed it (2019-11-12 19:13) Ivanq: If no one reported these problems before, there were no problems. (2019-11-12 19:14) zeronet: and it was so embarrassing that my pull request was closed and my additions merged in his name (2019-11-12 19:14) zeronet: yes (2019-11-12 19:14) zeronet: I can show you one report right nwo (2019-11-12 19:14) Ivanq: filips123 By the way, I managed to make sslcrypto more than 3 times less than pyelliptic and pybitcointools combined while being as fast! (2019-11-12 19:14) Ivanq: And even faster (2019-11-12 19:14) zeronet: ready? (2019-11-12 19:14) filips123: Ivanq Nice! (2019-11-12 19:15) Ivanq: I've checked libsecp256k1 just now and it looks like you can't make it use any other curve (2019-11-12 19:15) Ivanq: They made quite a few optimizations for it (2019-11-12 19:15) zeronet: https://github.com/HelloZeroNet/ZeroNet/issues/2249 Fonts don't loading in Tor Browser issue opened by Krixano (2019-11-12 19:15) Ivanq: So I guess ZeroNet would have to use both coincurve and sslcrypto (2019-11-12 19:15) zeronet: than I said: The pull request can be closed: https://github.com/HelloZeroNet/ZeroNet/issues/2249#issuecomment-546692245 (2019-11-12 19:15) Ivanq: zeronet Opened 16 days ago. (2019-11-12 19:16) Ivanq: Yeah (2019-11-12 19:16) Ivanq: Now what? (2019-11-12 19:16) zeronet: and you! YOU said: This should only be closed when your PR is merged. https://github.com/HelloZeroNet/ZeroNet/issues/2249#issuecomment-546692800 (2019-11-12 19:16) Ivanq: Right (2019-11-12 19:16) zeronet: my PR was never merged! (2019-11-12 19:16) Ivanq: "When" doesn't imply your PR will be merged for sure... anyways (2019-11-12 19:16) zeronet: you are a fucking disgusting shit (2019-11-12 19:16) zeronet: even contradicting yourself (2019-11-12 19:16) Ivanq: nofish would merge your code (and I'd support him) if you didn't add caching (2019-11-12 19:16) filips123: The changed were implemented in DIFFERENT way! (2019-11-12 19:16) Ivanq: You added caching whilst literally everyone told you not to do that (2019-11-12 19:17) zeronet: what a joke (2019-11-12 19:17) Ivanq: We also recommended you to use some best practices, or at least be similar to the code we're using (2019-11-12 19:17) zeronet: what a fucking joke (2019-11-12 19:17) filips123: And you added unneeded cache. (2019-11-12 19:17) zeronet: yeah (2019-11-12 19:17) zeronet: I did (2019-11-12 19:17) zeronet: and he merged everything except the chache (2019-11-12 19:18) Ivanq: Not "merged" (2019-11-12 19:18) zeronet: unneeded cache? wtf! (2019-11-12 19:18) Ivanq: He looked at your ideas, and wrote his own code (2019-11-12 19:18) Ivanq: Because no one f**** needed it! (2019-11-12 19:18) filips123: The only similar thing is handling MIME types according to IANA. And this is not copyrightable because it is idea. (2019-11-12 19:18) zeronet: I can show you 15 minutes long video on ZeroNet which will expire in 10 minutes (2019-11-12 19:18) zeronet: how logic is that? (2019-11-12 19:18) zeronet: abnormal fucks (2019-11-12 19:18) Ivanq: Don't you understand that text files shouldn't always be cached? (2019-11-12 19:18) Ivanq: At least for .... how much did you hard-code? (2019-11-12 19:19) zeronet: you can decrease the caching value (2019-11-12 19:19) zeronet: don't you? (2019-11-12 19:19) filips123: Where? (2019-11-12 19:19) zeronet: in UiRequest.py (2019-11-12 19:19) Ivanq: Do you really think users will do that? (2019-11-12 19:19) filips123: You can also increase it... (2019-11-12 19:19) zeronet: yes (2019-11-12 19:19) Ivanq: Users are dumb, live with it. (2019-11-12 19:19) zeronet: I do absolutely beleive that HTML files should be chached for a week (2019-11-12 19:19) Ivanq: ZeroNet users aren't programmers (2019-11-12 19:20) Ivanq: And I don't. (2019-11-12 19:20) Ivanq: Now what? (2019-11-12 19:20) zeronet: fuckyourself (2019-11-12 19:20) Ivanq: Come on, do you think that blogs should be cached for a week? (2019-11-12 19:20) zeronet: that (2019-11-12 19:20) zeronet: yes (2019-11-12 19:20) Ivanq: Do you think that posts should only be added once a week? (2019-11-12 19:20) zeronet: I think (2019-11-12 19:20) Ivanq: Are you kidding me? (2019-11-12 19:20) zeronet: Actually it is a practice (2019-11-12 19:20) filips123: I can show you a website which won't be able to be updated more than once per week because of your caching. (2019-11-12 19:20) zeronet: caching HTML for 3 days to 1 week (2019-11-12 19:20) Ivanq: zeronet It's not a practice... (2019-11-12 19:20) Ivanq: idk where you found it (2019-11-12 19:20) Ivanq: Can you show me where it's recommended or used at least? (2019-11-12 19:21) zeronet: not in Hungary that's for sure (2019-11-12 19:21) Ivanq: I'm not from Hungary. (2019-11-12 19:21) zeronet: there was a long argument about this caching thing (2019-11-12 19:21) zeronet: we had more than 300 comments regarding this (2019-11-12 19:21) zeronet: all thse topics are gone (2019-11-12 19:22) Ivanq: filips123 Lol (2019-11-12 19:22) Ivanq: I've just noticed that I'm using pyaes as well... (2019-11-12 19:22) Ivanq: So my code is only 1/3 smaller (2019-11-12 19:22) zeronet: Account name: ivanq Real name: Auto-crawler Connected to adams.freenode.net (Budapest, HU, EU) Securely connected via SSL/TLS (2019-11-12 19:22) Ivanq: Still not bad though (2019-11-12 19:22) filips123: Freenode has servers in Budapest (2019-11-12 19:22) Ivanq: zeronet They're gone because you deleted them (2019-11-12 19:23) zeronet: than fuck freenode as well (2019-11-12 19:23) filips123: Most users from south or east Europe will connect to it (2019-11-12 19:23) Ivanq: Where did you find that? zeronet (2019-11-12 19:23) zeronet: I hope the whole CIA is here now (2019-11-12 19:23) Ivanq: Oh, I found it (2019-11-12 19:24) zeronet: I'm threatening to kill Americans in masses and also to hang Zionist fucks in Israel and elsewhere (2019-11-12 19:24) zeronet: now what (2019-11-12 19:24) Ivanq: Would you mind to take a look at ZeroNetCrawler? (2019-11-12 19:24) Ivanq: It's also running from my account (2019-11-12 19:24) Ivanq: zeronet How is that related to programming? (2019-11-12 19:24) zeronet: not related in any ways (2019-11-12 19:24) filips123: Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/5f6d3be8cc7313efb5ffe8b6f91d2102/2880px-Map_of_freenode_servers.svg%5B1%5D.png (2019-11-12 19:24) zeronet: but maybe connected to Hungarian fucks (2019-11-12 19:25) filips123: That are Freenode servers (2019-11-12 19:25) zeronet: I don't open your links (2019-11-12 19:25) filips123: And I would then open your ZIP bombs? (2019-11-12 19:25) zeronet: XD (y) (2019-11-12 19:25) Ivanq: filips123 Actually... ZeroNet uses bitcoin lib which is about 0.5 MB (2019-11-12 19:25) zeronet: I did not renamed it (2019-11-12 19:25) zeronet: thats was your luck (2019-11-12 19:25) filips123: ? (2019-11-12 19:25) zeronet: Yes indeed I sent ZIP bombs (2019-11-12 19:26) Ivanq: What for? (2019-11-12 19:26) zeronet: as a gift for you (2019-11-12 19:26) filips123: Oh, thank you! (2019-11-12 19:26) Ivanq: I appreciated it, thanks! (2019-11-12 19:27) Ivanq: I'm going to make a biiiiig bomb for you for your next birthday, I'm sure you'll like it! (2019-11-12 19:27) zeronet: I can do better (2019-11-12 19:27) zeronet: ;) (2019-11-12 19:27) zeronet: I hope you will ship it with ZeroNet source code (2019-11-12 19:28) Ivanq: Oh, sure (2019-11-12 19:28) Ivanq: We'll leave it packed ok? (2019-11-12 19:28) filips123: zeronet Can you explain what did you mean with this: (2019-11-12 19:28) filips123: > also this frame mania is going to hit ZeroNet very badly (2019-11-12 19:28) filips123: > I don't use stupid frames on any of my nodes (2019-11-12 19:28) filips123: > The more a plugin depends on frames the more vulnerable it is to attacks not to mention the frame API become a dependency and so if something happens with the frame the whole plugin can be thrown to the trash (2019-11-12 19:28) filips123: > innovate! don't let the frame "stop you" in creating something unique and independent. ZeroNet can be used in many-many ways which doesn't require you to follow the original structure (2019-11-12 19:28) zeronet: exactly (2019-11-12 19:28) Ivanq: filips123 Do you know whether OpenSSL is included to most Linux distributions? (2019-11-12 19:28) zeronet: and comment filips123? (2019-11-12 19:29) Ivanq: zeronet Are you running a ZeroNet instance on some public site? (2019-11-12 19:29) filips123: Ivanq I think it should be, but I'm not sure...đ (2019-11-12 19:29) zeronet: yes I do on hundreds of sites each node using Tor so good luck (2019-11-12 19:30) Ivanq: Oh, cool! (2019-11-12 19:30) Ivanq: Can you link me to some of your sites? (2019-11-12 19:30) zeronet: :D (2019-11-12 19:30) zeronet: :') (2019-11-12 19:30) Ivanq: uh? (2019-11-12 19:30) zeronet: NEVER (2019-11-12 19:30) Ivanq: Just a single one would be enough... (2019-11-12 19:30) Ivanq: I'm really interested (2019-11-12 19:30) Ivanq: Then what's the point of running it? (2019-11-12 19:30) Ivanq: If you're not interested in sharing it (2019-11-12 19:30) filips123: zeronet Isn't point of sites that you share them? (2019-11-12 19:30) Ivanq: Why do you keep a public instance then? (2019-11-12 19:30) zeronet: you will die with this interest (2019-11-12 19:30) Ivanq: Yeah sure (2019-11-12 19:31) zeronet: never will know (2019-11-12 19:31) Ivanq: :( (2019-11-12 19:31) zeronet: (y) (2019-11-12 19:31) zeronet: :D (2019-11-12 19:31) zeronet: develop something for my custom built Kali: Linux darkside 5.3.0-custom-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.3.7-darklord (2019-11-06) x86_64 GNU/Linux (2019-11-12 19:32) Ivanq: What do you want me to develop? (2019-11-12 19:32) filips123: You still didn't answer what do you mean with "frame mania" which "is going to hit ZeroNet very badly"... (2019-11-12 19:32) zeronet: ZeroNet malware (2019-11-12 19:32) zeronet: like IPFS worm (2019-11-12 19:32) filips123: ? (2019-11-12 19:32) Ivanq: Oh, can you explain how it'd work? (2019-11-12 19:32) Ivanq: Also, what do you want me to develop for your Kali? (2019-11-12 19:33) zeronet: it would be shipped from Hungary in the source code of ZeroNet and would attack socialists all around the world (2019-11-12 19:33) zeronet: good ahh? (2019-11-12 19:33) Ivanq: No (2019-11-12 19:33) zeronet: :O (2019-11-12 19:33) zeronet: :D (2019-11-12 19:34) Ivanq: filips123 Do you know whether zeronet.io ships Python 3 ZeroNet now? (2019-11-12 19:34) filips123: Yes (2019-11-12 19:34) Ivanq: I mean... it looks like the x86 version is still py2 (2019-11-12 19:34) Ivanq: And yeah I've just found out that I have a 32-bit OS installed (2019-11-12 19:34) zeronet: :D (2019-11-12 19:35) filips123: Yep, Python 3 bundle does not have x86 version (2019-11-12 19:35) zeronet: Python 3.7.5 (default, Oct 27 2019, 15:43:29) [GCC 9.2.1 20191022] on linux (2019-11-12 19:35) filips123: Yes? (2019-11-12 19:35) Ivanq: Hm. Gonna fix that (2019-11-12 19:36) zeronet: gonna fix that? (2019-11-12 19:36) zeronet: :D (2019-11-12 19:36) Ivanq: I was actually looking for OpenSSL (2019-11-12 19:36) zeronet: you can do it in a second just extract the zip bomb (2019-11-12 19:36) Ivanq: I wasn't sure whether ZeroBundle included OpenSSL, I thought it did (2019-11-12 19:37) filips123: Ivanq Also see https://github.com/HelloZeroNet/ZeroNet/issues/2246 (2019-11-12 19:37) Ivanq: Oh, libeay32 is in tools actually (2019-11-12 19:37) zeronet: So what about the license? (2019-11-12 19:37) Ivanq: Ah? (2019-11-12 19:38) Ivanq: Oh, got it (2019-11-12 19:38) Ivanq: I'm going to rewrite some stuff to make it MIT-licensed to make sure switching licenses is easier (2019-11-12 19:38) Ivanq: I've rewritten bencode.py already (2019-11-12 19:38) Ivanq: and I'm about to add sslcrypto to ZeroNet (2019-11-12 19:39) zeronet: I warning you that I will distribute zeroNet under GPLv3+ no matter what you do (2019-11-12 19:39) Ivanq: Sure (2019-11-12 19:39) zeronet: nothing you can do which change this (2019-11-12 19:39) Ivanq: Sure (2019-11-12 19:39) Ivanq: Not that we need it... (2019-11-12 19:40) zeronet: most developers MORE THAN 50% already voted to GPLv3+ (2019-11-12 19:40) filips123: If all incompatibilities are fixed with alternative libraries, there is not need to distribute it under GPLv3... (2019-11-12 19:40) zeronet: so the voting can be stopped (2019-11-12 19:40) filips123: No it can't be (2019-11-12 19:40) zeronet: yes it can (2019-11-12 19:41) Ivanq: What law says that you can ignore others? (2019-11-12 19:42) zeronet: Than close the repository and stopi distributing ILLEGAL copies of ZeroNet (2019-11-12 19:42) zeronet: STOP THE DISTRIBUTION OF ZERONET (2019-11-12 19:42) zeronet: Explain to me one other thing (2019-11-12 19:43) zeronet: why the fuck @HelloZeroNet and @shortcutme is listed in the voting when they ARE THE SAME PERSON? (2019-11-12 19:43) filips123: Why not? (2019-11-12 19:44) zeronet: ahh (2019-11-12 19:44) zeronet: fraud fucks (2019-11-12 19:44) filips123: ? (2019-11-12 19:44) zeronet: I disrecpect anything you do in that repository (2019-11-12 19:44) zeronet: and I can tell you if you license any plugin under MIT I will remove that license and add GPLv3+ (2019-11-12 19:44) Ivanq: Sure (2019-11-12 19:44) Ivanq: Relicensing MIT code under GPLv3+ is allowed (2019-11-12 19:45) Ivanq: Right? (2019-11-12 19:45) filips123: (y) (2019-11-12 19:45) zeronet: NO (2019-11-12 19:45) filips123: YES (2019-11-12 19:45) zeronet: Not allowed (2019-11-12 19:45) filips123: Prove (2019-11-12 19:45) zeronet: you can't remove the MIT license! (2019-11-12 19:45) zeronet: is like relicensing Bitcoin to GPLv3+ (2019-11-12 19:46) zeronet: you fucking retard (2019-11-12 19:46) Ivanq: It is allowed (2019-11-12 19:46) Ivanq: ... (2019-11-12 19:46) zeronet: It is NOT allowed! (2019-11-12 19:46) Ivanq: You can use MIT code in GPLv3+ software (2019-11-12 19:46) zeronet: yes (2019-11-12 19:46) zeronet: you can USE (2019-11-12 19:46) zeronet: but no remove the license! (2019-11-12 19:46) zeronet: not (2019-11-12 19:46) Ivanq: I mean... you can use ZeroNet under GPLv3+ if it's licensed under MIT (2019-11-12 19:46) zeronet: NO (2019-11-12 19:46) Ivanq: Wait you can (2019-11-12 19:46) Ivanq: Yes you can (2019-11-12 19:46) zeronet: And you can't relicense ZeroNet to anything else but GPL (2019-11-12 19:47) filips123: Yes you can (2019-11-12 19:47) Ivanq: Contributors won't be able to do something on your copy (2019-11-12 19:47) Ivanq: But they'll be able to do that stuff on our MIT copy (2019-11-12 19:47) zeronet: and fucking clear all other contributors clearly want GPLv3+ (2019-11-12 19:49) zeronet: what you gonna do? send them a message that "Sorry I imachug inform you that your voting as acontributor doesn't matter, I will relicense ZeroNet under MIT (illegally by the way) (2019-11-12 19:49) Ivanq: Of course we can't re-license their code under MIT (2019-11-12 19:49) Ivanq: But we can relicense the code that others voted for (2019-11-12 19:49) zeronet: you will send to every contributor a message sorry your code will be stolen and will be licensed against your will on MIT? (2019-11-12 19:50) zeronet: This is the end of ZeroNet far as I can tell (2019-11-12 19:50) Ivanq: Or we can rewrite their code if we really really need to MIT-license it (2019-11-12 19:50) zeronet: the whole project is crashed (2019-11-12 19:50) filips123: Explain again (2019-11-12 19:50) Ivanq: But why? (2019-11-12 19:50) zeronet: YOU can rewrite code BUT CAN'T CHANGE THE LICENSE TO ANYTHING BUT GPL! (2019-11-12 19:51) Ivanq: Uh we can (2019-11-12 19:51) filips123: Why? (2019-11-12 19:51) Ivanq: If those who wrote that code want* it to be relicensed to MIT, we can do that (2019-11-12 19:51) zeronet: because I know how licenses works (2019-11-12 19:51) zeronet: you two maniac have no idea (2019-11-12 19:51) zeronet: you don't even know what is a loop in Python (2019-11-12 19:51) Ivanq: for (2019-11-12 19:51) zeronet: shut your mouth (2019-11-12 19:51) Ivanq: while (2019-11-12 19:51) Ivanq: LMAO (2019-11-12 19:52) filips123: > you don't even know what is a loop in Python (2019-11-12 19:52) filips123: Says someone who thinks caching files for a whole week without revocation is good idea... (2019-11-12 19:53) zeronet: yes it is (2019-11-12 19:53) Ivanq: Elaborate please. (2019-11-12 19:53) zeronet: who needs to cache videos lets say a 700MB videos for 10 minutes? (2019-11-12 19:53) Ivanq: VIDEOS (2019-11-12 19:53) Ivanq: F** videos (2019-11-12 19:53) Ivanq: Not text files (2019-11-12 19:54) zeronet: you fucking kidding me right? downloading it 70 times (2019-11-12 19:54) filips123: I changed website more than one per week (2019-11-12 19:54) ZaZ quit (2019-11-12 19:55) Ivanq: Just in case you don't know... (2019-11-12 19:55) Ivanq: ZeroNet stores files locally (2019-11-12 19:56) zeronet: ohh yeah? (2019-11-12 19:56) filips123: Yes (2019-11-12 19:57) zeronet: and what if the video is not on the local node? (2019-11-12 19:57) zeronet: I mean (2019-11-12 19:57) zeronet: I do have gateways to zeroNet (2019-11-12 19:57) zeronet: and is open for the clearweb (2019-11-12 19:57) filips123: Yes? (2019-11-12 19:57) zeronet: yes (2019-11-12 19:57) filips123: Then you can change cache yourself for your own instance (2019-11-12 19:57) zeronet: :D (2019-11-12 19:58) filips123: Yes (2019-11-12 19:58) Ivanq: Do whatever you want to to your public proxies (2019-11-12 19:58) Ivanq: But that shouldn't affect other peers (2019-11-12 19:59) zeronet: I want to show something (2019-11-12 19:59) Ivanq: What? (2019-11-12 20:00) Ivanq: ... (2019-11-12 20:01) Ivanq: Cool (2019-11-12 20:02) Ivanq: Such a thing (2019-11-12 20:03) zeronet: @HelloZeroNet said: (2019-11-12 20:03) zeronet: I have pushed modifications in Rev4250 that has updated list of bundled (2019-11-12 20:03) zeronet: content types based on this PR and also solves the font loading (2019-11-12 20:03) zeronet: problems. (2019-11-12 20:03) zeronet: Adding long cache values is not a great idea as the content can change any time. (2019-11-12 20:03) zeronet: BASED ON WHAT? (2019-11-12 20:03) zeronet:** :O

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You add one common piece of code as PR and that project won't be able to use it anymore, lol. (2019-11-12 20:25) zeronet: if then else is also common (2019-11-12 20:25) filips123: zeronet Because nobody reported problems (2019-11-12 20:26) zeronet: Substantial similarity, in US copyright law, is the standard used to determine whether a defendant has infringed the reproduction right of a copyright. The standard arises out of the (2019-11-12 20:26) zeronet: recognition that the exclusive right to make copies of a work would be meaningless if copyright infringement were limited to making only exact and complete reproductions of a work. (2019-11-12 20:26) filips123: Also, if you add while loop as PR, does this mean that is is now copyrighted by you? (2019-11-12 20:26) zeronet: no but certainly this software has something from me! (2019-11-12 20:26) zeronet: thats my point (2019-11-12 20:27) Ivanq quit (2019-11-12 20:30) zeronet: ohh so you learned fast what is a loop filips123? (2019-11-12 20:30) zeronet: congratulations (2019-11-12 20:30) zeronet: :D (2019-11-12 20:30) filips123: > In most computer programming languages, a while loop is a control flow statement that allows code to be executed repeatedly based on a given Boolean condition. The while loop can be thought of as a repeating if statement. (2019-11-12 20:30) zeronet: lol (2019-11-12 20:30) zeronet: you area joke (2019-11-12 20:31) zeronet: you know what is a range? (2019-11-12 20:31) filips123: In Python? (2019-11-12 20:31) zeronet: yes in for loops (2019-11-12 20:32) filips123: > Return an object that produces a sequence of integers from start (inclusive) to stop (exclusive) by step. (2019-11-12 20:32) zeronet: stop copy paste from you Dummy book :D (2019-11-12 20:34) filips123: It is not my Dummy book (2019-11-12 20:34) zeronet: :D (2019-11-12 20:34) zeronet: fine (2019-11-12 20:35) zeronet: you live in Serbia right? (2019-11-12 20:35) filips123: No (2019-11-12 20:35) zeronet: .si domain clearly indicates that (2019-11-12 20:36) filips123: No it doesn't (2019-11-12 20:36) filips123: .si is not domain for Serbia (2019-11-12 20:36) filips123: .rs is (2019-11-12 20:36) zeronet: ooh sorry (2019-11-12 20:37) zeronet: right (2019-11-12 20:37) zeronet: .si is for Siberia? (2019-11-12 20:37) zeronet: :D (2019-11-12 20:37) zeronet: (y) (2019-11-12 20:37) filips123: No (2019-11-12 20:37) zeronet: Slovenia? (2019-11-12 20:38) filips123: Yes (2019-11-12 20:38) zeronet: ohh (2019-11-12 20:38) zeronet: I always hated cCTLD's (2019-11-12 20:38) filips123: Why? (2019-11-12 20:39) zeronet: because it just stupid (2019-11-12 20:39) zeronet: .bit .club .international or .DEV is way better (2019-11-12 20:39) zeronet: .dev I like it (2019-11-12 20:40) filips123: And more expensive (2019-11-12 20:41) zeronet: but at least have privacy (2019-11-12 20:41) zeronet: right Miha Štamcar? (2019-11-12 20:41) zeronet: Miha Štamcar (2019-11-12 20:41) zeronet: :D (2019-11-12 20:41) zeronet: is your name right? (2019-11-12 20:41) zeronet: Miha Štamcar (2019-11-12 20:41) zeronet: :D (2019-11-12 20:42) reallll joined #zeronet (2019-11-12 20:43) belcher quit (2019-11-12 20:44) zeronet: you also use Windows right Miha Štamcar? According to one of your videos you do: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NobSglb5c5s (2019-11-12 20:44) filips123: > you also use Windows (2019-11-12 20:45) filips123: You could figure out this yesterday when I said I use Windows... (2019-11-12 20:45) zeronet: :D You are not anonymous anymore (2019-11-12 20:45) zeronet: Miha Štamcar alias filips123 (2019-11-12 20:46) filips123: Just that you know, I didn't buy that domain... (2019-11-12 20:46) zeronet: You could learn from me filips123! ;) (2019-11-12 20:46) zeronet: Well I see in the video your entire Desktop :D (2019-11-12 20:47) zeronet: even your domain name is listed in the end of that video (2019-11-12 20:47) filips123: Desktop from 3 years ago (2019-11-12 20:47) zeronet: :D (2019-11-12 20:47) zeronet: (y) (2019-11-12 20:48) zeronet: No worry (2019-11-12 20:48) zeronet: I'm not a bad guy you may think (2019-11-12 20:49) zeronet: I just hate fascists like Hungarians and Polish people (2019-11-12 20:49) filips123: Just that you know: Not all Hungarians and Polish people are fascists (2019-11-12 20:50) zeronet: :D (2019-11-12 20:50) zeronet: Are you sure about that? (2019-11-12 20:50) filips123: Are you sure? (2019-11-12 20:51) zeronet: let me show you what happened in Warsaw yesterday (2019-11-12 20:52) zeronet: ‘Europe is dying!’ Tens of thousands of far-righters march in ‘independence’ parade https://www.rt.com/news/473179-poland-independence-nazi-march/ (2019-11-12 20:52) zeronet: NAZI MARCH (2019-11-12 20:53) zeronet: If this not enough check this one: Delegations from Hungary and Italian fascists FN have joined the march (2019-11-12 20:53) zeronet: organised by Polish fascists to mark Poland’s independence day (2019-11-12 20:53) filips123: Yes, i know. But not all of them are such. (2019-11-12 20:53) zeronet: Delegation from Hungary and Italian fascists in Poland (2019-11-12 20:53) zeronet: https://twitter.com/dreamdef1/status/1193902988865224704 (2019-11-12 20:54) zeronet: if not all of them like that than why the fuck they not beating up this fascists? I would even cut they fucking heads with a sword! (2019-11-12 20:55) filips123: Some don't care, some can't, some don't have time, some don't want to be involved in politics... (2019-11-12 20:57) zeronet: Even if they say anything against neo-Nazis the police would come and beat the Anti-Fascists! Not the neo-Nazis! They beating the anti fascists! (2019-11-12 20:57) zeronet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4CG8O5iz-g (2019-11-12 21:00) krzysztof113 joined #zeronet (2019-11-12 21:00) zeronet: aparently in Europe ANTI-FASCISTS are a threat and no-Nazis are protected by the police! WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT? TELL ME! (2019-11-12 21:00) krzysztof113: Hello (2019-11-12 21:00) krzysztof113: how to get auth_address of site? (2019-11-12 21:01) zeronet: data folder (2019-11-12 21:01) zeronet: users.json (2019-11-12 21:02) filips123: It is also in zeroframe.cmd('siteInfo') udner auth_address key (2019-11-12 21:02) krzysztof113: ha, but I need auth_address of merger site (2019-11-12 21:02) krzysztof113: is it possible to get? (2019-11-12 21:02) zeronet: I told you (2019-11-12 21:03) zeronet: DATA folder USERS.json (2019-11-12 21:03) krzysztof113: from within application (2019-11-12 21:03) filips123: Run command from merger site itself? (2019-11-12 21:04) zeronet: (y) Than filips123 (2019-11-12 21:04) krzysztof113: actually it's that broadcasts from meger are signed by auth_adr of merger site (2019-11-12 21:04) krzysztof113: I'd like to identify self send message from PeerMessage (2019-11-12 21:05) krzysztof113: sorry if it's too hard question (2019-11-12 21:05) zeronet:** I don't know be honest with you

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(2019-11-13 22:19) zeronet: I also renaming the program and cleaning up the mess in the Python code, removing plugins and replacing HelloZeroNet with one which doesnt advertise or force users to download the shit from Tamas Kocsis (2019-11-13 22:24) zeronet: I advise everyone again to send an email to contributor@zeronet.website or you will be NOT given any credit in the new version of the software which complies with all the licenses which included in the source code. I warning you that, if you don't send an email you automatically providing me a copyright waiver! (2019-11-13 22:28) zeronet: Since ZeroNet has LOST ITS LICENSE and ALL COPYRIGHTS I give you an opportunity the last time to send an email to CONTRIBUTOR@ZERONET.WEBSITE if you don't send the email you AUTOMATICALLY providing me a COPYRIGHT WAIVER meaning that you never again can claim rights in the software! (2019-11-13 22:28) KiloLima: Wtf is this. (2019-11-13 22:28) zeronet: This is a legal warning! (2019-11-13 22:29) KiloLima: on irc? (2019-11-13 22:29) zeronet: Yes because Tamas fucking Kocsis is censoring GitHub!!! (2019-11-13 22:29) KiloLima: So a zeronet fork? (2019-11-13 22:29) zeronet: No (2019-11-13 22:29) KiloLima: with a new name? (2019-11-13 22:30) zeronet: It comes without HelloZero and ZeroName (2019-11-13 22:30) zeronet: also the code if fixed (2019-11-13 22:30) zeronet: you can use it on Gateways (2019-11-13 22:30) zeronet: Host your website under any domain name on ZeroNet even .com (2019-11-13 22:31) zeronet: The new name will be announced soon (2019-11-13 22:31) KiloLima: Can you write a pastebin of everything (2019-11-13 22:31) KiloLima: on paster.li (2019-11-13 22:31) zeronet: Right now I registering the domains (2019-11-13 22:31) zeronet: Hablas Espanol? (2019-11-13 22:35) zeronet: New name, new license and NO OWNER! We get rid of Tamas Kocsis and the Hungarian neo-Nazis who censoring GitHub, violating licenses and infringing copyright of many people! I did contributed to ZeroNet and no credit is given to me, Tamas Kocsis merged my pull request in his own name, than I sent them a warning about the license and asked to stop (2019-11-13 22:35) zeronet: the distribution of the Illegal Software to which Tamas Kocsis replied "nobody cares". Well motherfucker I do care and I make sure that no more abuse is permitted. ZeroNet (new name coming) is BELONGS TO EVERYONE not to some Hungarian neo-Nazi shithead in Budapest! (2019-11-13 22:37) zeronet: I did requested multiple times to replace the license and I got harasshed that ZeroNet is going to be rewritten under a different license than GPL, @imachug even claimed PROPRIETARY RIGHTS on ZeroNet as an attempt to stop me! (2019-11-13 22:40) filips123 joined #zeronet (2019-11-13 22:40) filips123: > I warning everyone that ZeroNet is distributed illegally and I going to take legal action against the owners of the HelloZeroNet repository (2019-11-13 22:40) zeronet: that is correct (2019-11-13 22:40) filips123: Only copyright hodler whose license is being violated can take legal action (2019-11-13 22:40) filips123: > I also contacted vultr.com which hosting zeronet.io and it is going to be taken down (2019-11-13 22:40) zeronet: you can write it down all of these messages into your textbook you fuck (2019-11-13 22:40) filips123: Says someone which violated GitHub ToS for many times... (2019-11-13 22:41) filips123: > you can write it down all of these messages into your textbook you fuck (2019-11-13 22:41) zeronet: Bullshit (2019-11-13 22:41) filips123: IRC does not support multi-line messages (2019-11-13 22:41) zeronet: Tamas Kocsis just covering up the facts because he is a criminal neo-Nazi shit (2019-11-13 22:41) zeronet: and you @filips123 and @imachug are the same (2019-11-13 22:41) filips123: > if you contributed to ZeroNet please send an email to contributor⊙zw if you don't send email to this address the upcoming release of ZeroNet will not include your name! (2019-11-13 22:41) zeronet: criminals (2019-11-13 22:41) filips123: What? (2019-11-13 22:41) zeronet: You hear me (2019-11-13 22:41) zeronet: you are a fucking criminal (2019-11-13 22:42) zeronet: if you distribute ZeroNet under this license you are a criminal (2019-11-13 22:42) zeronet: what you don't understand? (2019-11-13 22:42) filips123: Yes. Death threats of course won't make you criminal... (2019-11-13 22:42) zeronet: go back to fucking github and suck the dick of Tamas (2019-11-13 22:42) zeronet: also "ZeroNet" is going to be renamed (2019-11-13 22:42) filips123: Again, you can do: (2019-11-13 22:42) filips123: > if you contributed to ZeroNet please send an email to contributor⊙zw if you don't send email to this address the upcoming release of ZeroNet will not include your name! (2019-11-13 22:42) zeronet: and NOT going to be developed on GitHub (2019-11-13 22:42) filips123: Can not (2019-11-13 22:42) zeronet: I said it a week ago I working on a GitLab instance (2019-11-13 22:43) filips123: Or yes? Where it will be? On your super secure private servers? (2019-11-13 22:43) zeronet: It is hosted at 1984.is in Iceland (2019-11-13 22:43) zeronet: yes super secure (2019-11-13 22:43) filips123: > I also renaming the program and cleaning up the mess in the Python code, removing plugins and replacing HelloZeroNet with one which doesnt advertise or force users to download the shit from Tamas Kocsis (2019-11-13 22:43) filips123: Yes, you will get "Zero" (2019-11-13 22:43) filips123: From "ZeroNet" (2019-11-13 22:43) zeronet: No (2019-11-13 22:43) zeronet: No ZeroShit (2019-11-13 22:44) zeronet: I cleaning up the entire source code from this spam (2019-11-13 22:44) filips123: Yes? (2019-11-13 22:44) filips123: How?đ (2019-11-13 22:44) zeronet: yes (2019-11-13 22:44) filips123: How? (2019-11-13 22:44) zeronet: what how? (2019-11-13 22:45) filips123: How you will do this? (2019-11-13 22:45) zeronet: first main.py and sitemanager.py is cleaned up (2019-11-13 22:45) filips123: "cleaning up the entire source code from this spam" and "cleaning up the mess in the Python code, removing plugins and replacing HelloZeroNet" (2019-11-13 22:45) filips123: So, how? (2019-11-13 22:45) zeronet: no plugins or shit from Tamas Kocsis going to be loaded or downloaded (2019-11-13 22:46) filips123: Isn't point of ZeorNet (and any network) to download things? (2019-11-13 22:46) zeronet: I also contacted NameCoin developers for assistance (2019-11-13 22:47) zeronet: The Hungarian shitheads in Budapest can fuckthemself (2019-11-13 22:47) zeronet: I liberate this program from Hungarian neo-Nazis and you should be thankful! (2019-11-13 22:47) filips123: Yes? (2019-11-13 22:47) zeronet: Yes (2019-11-13 22:48) zeronet: I dont care if they running to the Orban and jump on his dick (2019-11-13 22:48) zeronet: ZeroNet is not ZeroNet anymore (2019-11-13 22:48) zeronet: and not belongs to any Hungarian (2019-11-13 22:48) filips123: So how execly will you "liberate this program" and what exactly did you contacted NameCoin for? (2019-11-13 22:48) zeronet: Also (2019-11-13 22:48) zeronet: did you even noticed that most nodes are in the USA? (2019-11-13 22:48) filips123: And? (2019-11-13 22:49) zeronet: Nodes are spread over fascist countries (2019-11-13 22:49) zeronet: This is changing (2019-11-13 22:49) filips123: > and not belongs to any Hungarian - Tamas will still have copyright to code he wrote... (2019-11-13 22:49) filips123: > This is changing - How will you change this? Force people into hosting/stopping hosting nodes? (2019-11-13 22:49) zeronet: I also offering free servers VPS to all developer who contribute to the new software (2019-11-13 22:49) filips123: Yes, very decentralized... (2019-11-13 22:49) zeronet: I also offering free servers VPS to all developer who contribute to the new software! (2019-11-13 22:49) filips123: All nodes on your VPS (2019-11-13 22:49) zeronet: no (2019-11-13 22:50) zeronet: Is not mine (2019-11-13 22:50) zeronet: but I pay for it! (2019-11-13 22:50) zeronet: It is hosted at https://1984.is (2019-11-13 22:50) filips123: Yes, one provider, very decentralized (2019-11-13 22:50) zeronet: I spend my own money to make sure you will have a node in a secure location (2019-11-13 22:51) zeronet: keep your opinion to yourself go to GitHub and suck up to the Hungarian shitheads (2019-11-13 22:51) zeronet: go ahead filips123 (2019-11-13 22:51) filips123: In one location (2019-11-13 22:51) filips123: Centralization... (2019-11-13 22:51) zeronet: In ICELAND! <3 (2019-11-13 22:52) filips123: Simple DDoS or provider goes down for any other reason and whole "decentralized" network is gone... (2019-11-13 22:52) zeronet: What is centralized in this you maniac? (2019-11-13 22:52) zeronet: LOL (2019-11-13 22:52) zeronet: Dream my boy (2019-11-13 22:52) zeronet: 1984.is owners are those who helped WikiLekas become WikiLeaks (2019-11-13 22:52) filips123: One provider, one owner, one payer, one location (2019-11-13 22:53) zeronet: you have no fucking clue what are you talking about (2019-11-13 22:53) filips123: You don't know what decentralized means (2019-11-13 22:53) zeronet: I know one thing for sure (2019-11-13 22:53) filips123: Yes? So hosting whole network on one provider is decentralized? (2019-11-13 22:53) zeronet: at 1984 nobody spies on tor bridges or nodes and certainly you can run on them ZeroNet (2019-11-13 22:54) zeronet: You are free to fucking host the main nodes in Fascist states (2019-11-13 22:54) filips123: ? (2019-11-13 22:54) zeronet: I will not (2019-11-13 22:54) filips123: Yes, so centralization... (2019-11-13 22:55) zeronet: You don't even know what that mean (2019-11-13 22:55) zeronet: Whe you fucking go to GitHub that is not centralization you retarded fuck? (2019-11-13 22:55) filips123: What is then point of doing such "decentralized" network if all nodes are hosted on same provider? You can then just use normal server instead... (2019-11-13 22:55) zeronet: Whe you fucking go to GitHub that is not centralization you retarded fuck? (2019-11-13 22:56) filips123: So explain how your "decentralized" network hosted on one provider will be different from GitHub? (2019-11-13 22:56) filips123: What is then point of doing such "decentralized" network if all nodes are hosted on same provider? You can then just use normal server instead... (2019-11-13 22:56) zeronet: I said GitLab instances will be at 1984.is and I offering for developers free credit to host they own nodes there! I pay from my own pocket! (2019-11-13 22:57) filips123: Yes! If nodes will be hosted there, they will not be decentralized! (2019-11-13 22:57) zeronet: Far as I know Tamas Kocsis has about 90,000 USD collected so far with this ZeroShit and spent not a single dollar to promote ZeroNet or help developers (2019-11-13 22:57) zeronet: 90,000 USD for fascist fucks! (2019-11-13 22:57) zeronet: WHAT A SHAME! (2019-11-13 22:58) filips123: Because he wrote 90% of ZeroNet himself (2019-11-13 22:58) zeronet: He did not (2019-11-13 22:58) zeronet: He dont even speak English man (2019-11-13 22:58) filips123: Explain (2019-11-13 22:58) zeronet: He also stolen my contribution and merged in his name! (2019-11-13 22:59) zeronet: Who the fuck beleive that fuck anymore? (2019-11-13 22:59) zeronet: I think I will not use .io domain (2019-11-13 22:59) zeronet: this is so stupid (2019-11-13 22:59) zeronet: .io (2019-11-13 22:59) filips123: > He also stolen my contribution and merged in his name! Who the fuck beleive that fuck anymore? - Nobody... (2019-11-13 23:00) zeronet: I register a new name for ZeroNet under the .DEV TLD (2019-11-13 23:00) filips123: Ah, yes. This is that TLD that Google stole from develoeprs which were using .dev for testing local domains... (2019-11-13 23:01) zeronet: :D (2019-11-13 23:01) zeronet: WHAT? (2019-11-13 23:01) zeronet: and the .local? (2019-11-13 23:01) zeronet: what about that? (2019-11-13 23:01) zeronet: .home? (2019-11-13 23:01) zeronet: Google aslo stolen that? (2019-11-13 23:01) zeronet: :D (2019-11-13 23:01) filips123: https://webmasters.stackexchange.com/questions/122337/google-dev-domain-strangely-redirects-to-https (2019-11-13 23:01) filips123 quit (2019-11-13 23:01) zeronet: I hope they not going to still .arpa (2019-11-13 23:02) zeronet: XD (2019-11-13 23:05) zeronet: What about this? https://webmasters.stackexchange.com/questions/122337/google-dev-domain-strangely-redirects-to-https I don't get it! .dev is a great domain! (2019-11-13 23:06) zeronet: way better than .io (2019-11-13 23:09) zeronet: But (2019-11-13 23:09) zeronet: .io isn’t a subject domain (officially a “Generic” TLD, or gTLD); it’s (2019-11-13 23:09) zeronet: for a country! (“Country Code” TLD, or ccTLD). What country? The British Indian Ocean Territory. (2019-11-13 23:09) zeronet: This archipelago of 1,000 islands and no permanent inhabitants is the (2019-11-13 23:09) zeronet: web presence of most developer tools. (It’s not so uncommon: .tv is (2019-11-13 23:09) zeronet: actually the ccTLD for Tuvalu). (2019-11-13 23:09) zeronet: This is somewhat dangerous because the rules and support for ccTLDs are (2019-11-13 23:09) zeronet: less protective for users than gTLDs: if the country changes it mind, (2019-11-13 23:09) zeronet: they can revoke the domain (war in Libya brought down a .ly domain). But my real problem with .io, and why I’m glad .dev is here, is that the “country” involved with .io is problematic.The (2019-11-13 23:09) zeronet: British Indian Ocean Territory has 0 permanent inhabitants because the (2019-11-13 23:09) zeronet: UK forcibly deported the Chagossians (the people living there) 50 years (2019-11-13 23:09) zeronet: ago. Why? Maybe to protect an endangered species? Or protect them from (2019-11-13 23:09) zeronet: extreme weather? No, to make room for a US military base within striking distance of Asia (also used for torture during the Global War on Terror). (2019-11-13 23:10) zeronet: .io equals to TERROR and seems the UK happy to sell .io domains and probably they buying weapons with that money! (2019-11-13 23:10) zeronet: https://medium.com/windmill-engineering/dev-is-a-better-io-why-we-moved-to-tilt-dev-9fc8321693d3 (2019-11-13 23:12) zeronet:** So, while I hate Google I agree with them on that developers need a domain and .DEV is perfect for that.

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(2019-11-13 23:18) *ZeroNetCrawler* joined #zeronet (2019-11-13 23:30) zeronet: I know well that Tamas Kocsis is spying on everyone who uses ZeroNet and he doing so by monitoring http://127.0.0.1:43110/1HeLLo4uzjaLetFx6NH3PMwFP3qbRbTf3D/ and the peers which sharing it (2019-11-13 23:32) zeronet: this is why he get his money from a German corporation very possible ZeroNet is under heavy surveillance by the German and Hungarian secret services (2019-11-13 23:35) zeronet: some even recommended to the neo-Nazi DailyStormer to move to ZeroNet https://blog.torproject.org/tor-project-defends-human-rights-racists-oppose (2019-11-13 23:38) zeronet: Tamas Kocsis lives ina fascist state and dis not moved his little finger to use ZeroNet agains Hungary because he loves being white in Budapest neo-Nazi shit that what he is (2019-11-13 23:39) zeronet: censoring GitHub, copy code from closed pull request and merging it in his own name, violating more than 3 different licenses and infringes the copyrights of many people for years dont fucking tell me he is somebody, in my eyes he is just another capitalist shithead who advocates for fascism (2019-11-13 23:39) zeronet: he did absolutely nothing positive using ZeroNet (2019-11-13 23:40) zeronet: he don't even speak English but appaering in Ted Talks in New York talking about nonsense (2019-11-13 23:40) zeronet: he also don't know what is the difference between open source and free software (2019-11-13 23:41) zeronet: not to mention the big decentralized ZeroNet is developed on fucking GitHub (2019-11-13 23:42) zeronet: GitHub is very decentralized sure... I seen even @filips123 @imachug and others running ZeroNet on Windows sucking up for Microsoft both on GitHub and on they devices (2019-11-13 23:43) zeronet: not to mention more than 12 of my accounts is SUSPENDED on gitHub because I come forward and reported them for copyright infringement and license violations what they do for years! (2019-11-13 23:44) zeronet: don't fucking advertise you illegal software as censorship resistant when you censoring people you shithead! Do you hear me Tamas? (2019-11-13 23:46) zeronet: he don't have the courage to come to IRC and open his fucking mouth, noo he is too much embarrassed to hear the truth (2019-11-13 23:47) zeronet: They even monitoring this channel: https://github.com/imachug/zeronet-irc-listener/issues/1 (2019-11-13 23:53) zeronet: Look at this: @imachug trying to monitor even GitHub (2019-11-13 23:53) zeronet: 20:02:05 Do you think GitHub API can monitor users? (2019-11-13 23:53) zeronet: the same fucking guy who tried to claim proprietary rights in ZeroNet and threatened me with DMCA (2019-11-13 23:56) zeronet: don't you feel shit @imachug? and you @shortcutme alias @hellozeronet? (I ping you on GitHub from Freenode because your fucking crawler will post there everything) (2019-11-13 23:58) zeronet: I told to imachug he should send DMCA to more than 1,900 people who forked ZeroNet but I'm the target because I'm not afraid to say that they are Hungarian neo-Nazis in Budapest who running the GitHub repository (2019-11-13 23:59) zeronet: Hungarian and Polish and German neo-Nazis to be more specific (2019-11-14 00:00) zeronet: They bullshitting me but when people come to IRC and ask for help they help nothing (2019-11-14 00:00) zeronet: look: (2019-11-14 00:00) zeronet: (2019-11-13 18:49) finkfox: hi. i'm new to zeronet. i'm wondering, is it possible to develop/run zeronet websites without javascript? (2019-11-14 00:01) zeronet: (2019-11-13 18:50) finkfox: also, both tutorial links on this site don't work: https://zeronet.io/docs/site_development/getting_started/ (2019-11-14 00:01) zeronet: (2019-11-13 18:55) finkfox quit (2019-11-14 00:01) zeronet: I can tell you the answer finkfox (2019-11-14 00:02) zeronet: you can't run that ZeroNet which released by the nazis without JavaScript and you must stay locked into the FRAME (for security) (2019-11-14 00:03) zeronet: I remind everyone that in the name of "security" Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan bombed now for more than 17 years nearly every day (2019-11-14 00:03) zeronet: in the name of security Orban Viktor built 520 KM long electrified razor fences (2019-11-14 00:03) KiloLima: If we're talking about the term and usage of "ZeroNet" or "ZNet" they are, under U.S. federal protections, the property of the Corporation which first recorded the usage of the term and the particulars of the apparatus for patents and the usage of the term would be considered trademark pending if it was used in private discussion between employees under contract by a Corporation operating under U.S. law. (2019-11-14 00:04) KiloLima: It's like when you send certified mail to yourself of your screenplay, considered the 'poorman's patent' (2019-11-14 00:04) zeronet: what? there are trademark with this name? (2019-11-14 00:04) zeronet: :O (2019-11-14 00:04) KiloLima: that applies to internal corporate discussions on internal corporate chat systems. (2019-11-14 00:04) zeronet: I check now WIPO (2019-11-14 00:05) KiloLima: Hesitation to file motion under DMCA Safe Harbor was due to the project being open source and used for the promotion of decentralization (2019-11-14 00:05) zeronet: no (2019-11-14 00:05) KiloLima: Any attempt to trademark the name can be quashed in the United States due to the Corporate discussion. (2019-11-14 00:05) zeronet: hesitation is because they have no license! (2019-11-14 00:05) zeronet: the GPLv2 license is TERMINATED (2019-11-14 00:05) KiloLima: As I understand the term "ZeroNet" was coined by an employee at my company in 2014. (2019-11-14 00:05) zeronet: :O (2019-11-14 00:06) KiloLima: Unless anyone has verifiable proof that the term was used prior to that, the Corporation holds the power to file an injunction against any trademark against (2019-11-14 00:06) KiloLima: filing for the term "ZeroNet" and "ZNet" (2019-11-14 00:06) zeronet: I'm looking for the trademark right now (2019-11-14 00:07) KiloLima: Corporation determined not to file DMCA due to it's usage and developers not intending on patenting or trademarking the technology or terminology. (2019-11-14 00:07) psymin quit (2019-11-14 00:07) zeronet: what corporation was that? (2019-11-14 00:08) KiloLima: However the terminology is primarily under the legal protections of the United States law, specifically New York State, when it comes any patent, trademark or copyright being filed in the United States. (2019-11-14 00:08) zeronet: in which state? (2019-11-14 00:08) zeronet: New York (2019-11-14 00:08) zeronet: lol (2019-11-14 00:09) KiloLima: The ltds/llc's data was superseded to a LLC in a former UK colony in 2016. (2019-11-14 00:09) zeronet: I found 10 trademark (2019-11-14 00:09) zeronet: some European (2019-11-14 00:09) KiloLima: If anyone attempts to use trademark, copyright, or patent "ZeroNet" or "ZNet" with the US PTO, the Corporation has the right to file a motion to quash the patent (2019-11-14 00:10) zeronet: depends (2019-11-14 00:10) KiloLima: just like it's considering doing now in Texas with a VPN patent filing that's under contestment between an Eastern European and Israeli company. (2019-11-14 00:10) zeronet: For that KiloLima they need to have the trademark in the same class (2019-11-14 00:11) KiloLima: Under WIPO rules. (2019-11-14 00:11) zeronet: You can't enforce a US trademark in Europe! (2019-11-14 00:11) zeronet: I do have trademark at USPTO (2019-11-14 00:11) zeronet: I know it (2019-11-14 00:12) KiloLima: The proprietary and private internal discussion would bring about the necessary evidence to quash an attempt to trademark, copyright or patent it, if the Corporation allows for the NDA's to modified for such purpose. (2019-11-14 00:12) KiloLima: US intellectual property can be enforced in the European Union with the creation of WIPO. (2019-11-14 00:12) KiloLima: Under the DMCA. (2019-11-14 00:13) zeronet: The thing is if "ZeroNet" is released under GPLv3+ license as it is REQUIRED than anyone including you can apply for a patent! (2019-11-14 00:13) KiloLima: Filing a Safe Harbor Cease & Desist can have bandwidth upstream providers terminate agreements with the violator. (2019-11-14 00:13) zeronet: NO (2019-11-14 00:13) zeronet: Is not that simple (2019-11-14 00:14) KiloLima: It has been done, in the Nederlands and Deuchland, in the past. (2019-11-14 00:14) KiloLima: 2013 if I recall correctly. (2019-11-14 00:15) KiloLima: US Laws alongside corporate strongarming can cripple any violator. (2019-11-14 00:15) KiloLima: I have successfully filed, personally, under the DMCA, in places such as Bosnia (2019-11-14 00:15) zeronet: All trademark I found in WIPO (World Intellectual Property Organization) for the term "zeronet" is INACTIVE! (2019-11-14 00:15) zeronet: Non of them are active (2019-11-14 00:16) KiloLima: The USPTO takes precedence over WIPO when it is in the interests of the United States Government (i.e. IRS) (2019-11-14 00:16) zeronet: no my boy (2019-11-14 00:16) KiloLima: When was the inactive filing on WIPO listed? (2019-11-14 00:17) zeronet: oldest from 1997 T-Mobile Deutcheland (2019-11-14 00:17) zeronet: the most trademarks which are inactive are from ZERO.NET (2019-11-14 00:17) KiloLima: That would take precedence over the U.S. Corporation's motion to quash as they have the time. (2019-11-14 00:17) zeronet:** https://www3.wipo.int/branddb/en/

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(2019-11-14 00:20) *ZeroNetCrawler* joined #zeronet (2019-11-14 00:20) zeronet: You know what is the Berne Convention? Berne Convention for the Protection of Literary and Artistic Works. It is signed in Switzerland. (2019-11-14 00:21) zeronet: the largest copyright treaty to date (2019-11-14 00:22) zeronet: Nobody likes the United States (2019-11-14 00:22) zeronet: show me one person who respects US law elsewhere han the USA (2019-11-14 00:22) KiloLima: USPTO + Corporate, in this current era, would not hesitate to terminate that convention in the name of the Project of the New American Century. (2019-11-14 00:22) KiloLima: The UK. (2019-11-14 00:22) KiloLima: Canada. (2019-11-14 00:22) zeronet: Imperialists (2019-11-14 00:22) KiloLima: Australia, New Zealand (2019-11-14 00:22) KiloLima: South Africa (2019-11-14 00:22) KiloLima: Nederlands. (2019-11-14 00:22) zeronet: sure they love exploiting the poor (2019-11-14 00:22) KiloLima: Esp. the Nederlands. (2019-11-14 00:23) zeronet: Yeah (2019-11-14 00:23) zeronet: EU is in NATO (2019-11-14 00:23) zeronet: All EU countries are in the fucking NATO (2019-11-14 00:23) zeronet: Switzerland not (2019-11-14 00:23) zeronet: :P (2019-11-14 00:23) KiloLima: But Suisse takes EU grant money (2019-11-14 00:23) KiloLima: and implementing EU directives. (2019-11-14 00:23) zeronet: NO (2019-11-14 00:24) zeronet: The EU wants money from us! (2019-11-14 00:24) KiloLima: AMLD5 was being implemented in Switzerland. If I recall correctly (2019-11-14 00:24) KiloLima: Anti Money Laundering, Directive 5, from the FATF, was being implemented in CH. (2019-11-14 00:24) KiloLima: and even Liechtenstein. (2019-11-14 00:24) zeronet: Well that is another thing (2019-11-14 00:25) KiloLima: No, that's implementing EU directives (2019-11-14 00:25) KiloLima: without referendum. (2019-11-14 00:25) zeronet: but if you commit a financial crime in the USA and come to Switzerland from here they will not extradite at all (2019-11-14 00:25) KiloLima: under the fear of being restricted/barred from European markets (2019-11-14 00:25) KiloLima: and EU markets. (2019-11-14 00:25) zeronet: Switzerland is not part of the EU neither in EU economic area (2019-11-14 00:26) KiloLima: Under Strarsbourg, they can get the UK or NL to enforce it (2019-11-14 00:26) KiloLima: and CH will comply. (2019-11-14 00:26) zeronet: we don't give a shit about EU directives (2019-11-14 00:26) KiloLima: I've seen them do it with ProtonLabs in Geneve. (2019-11-14 00:26) zeronet: LOL (2019-11-14 00:26) zeronet: ProtonLabs will just show a middle finger if any country asking them about customers (2019-11-14 00:26) zeronet: I can guarantee (2019-11-14 00:27) KiloLima: I've seen the U.S. push requests via the UK to CH via Strasburg and Geneve Prosecutors' Office bend over. (2019-11-14 00:27) zeronet: If they share any personal information without a Cantonal Court order they will get locked up in jail! (2019-11-14 00:27) zeronet: Privacy here is very very strict! (2019-11-14 00:27) KiloLima: I've seen the U.S. push requests via the UK to CH via Strasburg and Geneve Prosecutors' Office bend over. (2019-11-14 00:27) KiloLima: The Prosecutor bends over (2019-11-14 00:27) zeronet: never (2019-11-14 00:27) KiloLima: for every British request. (2019-11-14 00:27) zeronet: forget that (2019-11-14 00:28) zeronet: absolutely false (2019-11-14 00:28) KiloLima: under US direction (2019-11-14 00:28) zeronet: no no (2019-11-14 00:28) KiloLima: That's why I've listed it as an unsafe country for confidential data. (2019-11-14 00:28) zeronet: It can't happen! If they do as I said ProtonMail employees get JAIL sentence! (2019-11-14 00:28) zeronet: :D (2019-11-14 00:29) KiloLima: You are not understanding. (2019-11-14 00:29) zeronet: Depend what confidential data (2019-11-14 00:29) KiloLima: the Geneva Prosecutor will demand ProtonLabs hand over data (2019-11-14 00:29) KiloLima: at the request of the UK (2019-11-14 00:29) KiloLima: under US supervision (2019-11-14 00:29) zeronet: I would recommend to host your digital stuff in ICELAND (2019-11-14 00:29) KiloLima: quite quickly (2019-11-14 00:29) zeronet: Show me tha case (2019-11-14 00:29) KiloLima: Choe Ayling (2019-11-14 00:29) zeronet: give me a case number and I look up the court records (2019-11-14 00:30) KiloLima: they supplied data (2019-11-14 00:30) KiloLima: without a warrant being furnished first (2019-11-14 00:30) KiloLima: under UK request (2019-11-14 00:30) KiloLima: ProtonLabs (2019-11-14 00:30) KiloLima: Geneva approved after the fact (2019-11-14 00:30) KiloLima: it was a publicity stunt (2019-11-14 00:30) zeronet: I'm looking (2019-11-14 00:30) KiloLima: they fell for it (2019-11-14 00:30) zeronet: what was the base? (2019-11-14 00:30) KiloLima: Look at ProtonMail's transparency report. (2019-11-14 00:31) KiloLima: They implemented IP tracking at the request of the prosecutors office in Geneva which was technically a foreign request because it came from another country (2019-11-14 00:32) zeronet: actually right now the Swiss Police have centers for monitoring extortion and cyber crimes (2019-11-14 00:32) zeronet: The Federal Secret Service also got a lot of power in 2016 (2019-11-14 00:33) zeronet: but not without a valid court order (2019-11-14 00:33) KiloLima: ProtonMail is under the FSS direction because they fit the criteria under the BURF (2019-11-14 00:33) KiloLima: or whatever the law was labeled in 2016. (2019-11-14 00:34) zeronet: :D (2019-11-14 00:34) zeronet: Seems you know a lot ;) (2019-11-14 00:35) KiloLima: I studied CH as a child. (2019-11-14 00:35) KiloLima: And intensively studied it while incarcerated as a child for no crime. (2019-11-14 00:35) zeronet: Now you are in the US I see (2019-11-14 00:36) zeronet: :O (2019-11-14 00:36) zeronet: Where you was locked up? (2019-11-14 00:36) KiloLima: England. (2019-11-14 00:36) zeronet: I hate UK (2019-11-14 00:36) zeronet: :@ (2019-11-14 00:36) zeronet: I was living in Euston in London (2019-11-14 00:37) KiloLima: I can't even discuss it publicly because I received a threat of sterilization a few years ago. Now I don't care. I am childfree and proud. (2019-11-14 00:37) zeronet: WTF (2019-11-14 00:37) KiloLima: The devil you know, is the better than the one you don't. Which is why I prefer the U.S. (2019-11-14 00:37) KiloLima: Except for taxation. (2019-11-14 00:37) zeronet: Who harassed you? MI5 MI6? (2019-11-14 00:38) KiloLima: Standard State Agencies. (2019-11-14 00:38) zeronet: SICK! A children locked up! fuck them! (2019-11-14 00:38) zeronet: Like in the USA (2019-11-14 00:38) zeronet: they locking up children in cages! (2019-11-14 00:39) KiloLima: It was the start, in England, in 2010. (2019-11-14 00:39) KiloLima: I feel no remorse for anyone, under any circumstances, except my financial bottomline and company alumni. (2019-11-14 00:39) KiloLima: Some would say that's sociopathic, I say it's apart of looking after Number 1. (2019-11-14 00:39) zeronet: I actually moving to Shenzen in 2 years! (2019-11-14 00:39) zeronet: You know ehere is Shenzen? (2019-11-14 00:40) KiloLima: I've been looking at Shenzen for a while. (2019-11-14 00:40) zeronet: :O (2019-11-14 00:40) zeronet: You like it don't you? :P (2019-11-14 00:40) KiloLima: The hardware manufacturing output is amazing. (2019-11-14 00:40) zeronet: I <3 Shenzen! (2019-11-14 00:40) KiloLima: The development is great. (2019-11-14 00:40) zeronet: greater than in California thats for sure (2019-11-14 00:41) KiloLima: Tokyo and Osaka has an edge on certain Western cultures however. A bit torn on that. (2019-11-14 00:41) zeronet: Ahh (2019-11-14 00:41) zeronet: Osaka (2019-11-14 00:41) zeronet: fucking US military base (2019-11-14 00:41) zeronet: no thanks (2019-11-14 00:43) zeronet: Shenzen! I will die there probably (2019-11-14 00:43) zeronet: seriously (2019-11-14 00:43) zeronet: I going to live in Shenzen forever (2019-11-14 00:43) zeronet: Far from this EU and US bullshit (2019-11-14 00:45) zeronet: In China at leat nobody cares if I screaming about fuck the UNited States of Fascist America (2019-11-14 00:45) zeronet: they even give me weapons :D (2019-11-14 00:47) zeronet: Seriously, If you hate the US, UK, CA, AU etc China is the SAFEST place! CIA can't do anything to you there :P (2019-11-14 00:48) zeronet: also I can hop on a train and go to Russia without any problem :P (2019-11-14 00:50) zeronet: Maybe I join to WeChat dev team :P (2019-11-14 00:54) psymin joined #zeronet (2019-11-14 00:54) zeronet: Tamas Kocsis is even a Sinophobe who talks how China blocking ZeroNet but I can tell you is not true! I have servers in China too and I can connect to my node without using Tor (2019-11-14 00:56) zeronet: Tamas Kocsis @HelloZeroNet is a neo-Nazi Sinophobe shithead who was giving talk in New York and talked shit about China because that what the US wanted to hear... China bad, Russia bad, Iran bad, US, UK etc lovely! Right! Fuck him (2019-11-14 00:58) zeronet: Look at this Engineers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4-q-gqSr60 (y) (2019-11-14 01:01) KiloLima: I am going to setup WeChat later to order some stuff in (2019-11-14 01:01) KiloLima: Prefer WeChat than WhatsApp. (2019-11-14 01:05) KiloLima: In July 2019, we received a request for information that was approved by the Swiss judiciary involving a case in another EU country, which upon further assessment, we suspect could be targeting a whistleblower. We have refused to hand over data while seeking further clarification from the authorities as to why this request for information was approved in the first place, and asking for Swiss authorities to re-check the (2019-11-14 01:05) KiloLima: facts of the case. (2019-11-14 01:05) KiloLima: https://protonmail.com/blog/transparency-report/ (2019-11-14 01:06) KiloLima: In April 2019, upon the order of the Swiss judiciary in a case of clear criminal conduct, we enabled IP logging against a specific user account which is engaged in illegal activities which contravene Swiss law. Pursuant to Swiss law, the user in question will also be notified and afforded the opportunity to defend against this in court before the data can be used in criminal proceedings. (2019-11-14 01:07) KiloLima: In May 2018, upon the request from the top law enforcement officer from an EU country in a case involving terrorism with an imminent threat, we disabled an account and rendered assistance, with the assurance from Swiss authorities that a court order was on its way to us. We did indeed receive the court order. Per our standard procedure for cases like this, we will attend the court hearing to learn details from the (2019-11-14 01:07) KiloLima: relevant authorities about this case and to ensure that all applicable due process was followed. (2019-11-14 01:07) KiloLima: ASSURANCE IS ALL THAT IS NEEDED! (2019-11-14 01:07) KiloLima: Great work Switzerland (2019-11-14 01:07) zeronet: I don't see anything bad in this (2019-11-14 01:09) KiloLima: They modified configuration to capture IP address (2019-11-14 01:09) zeronet: :D (2019-11-14 01:09) KiloLima: they rendered assistance without a warrant, just with assurance that one would be furnished in the future. (2019-11-14 01:09) KiloLima: They've contested 1 case out of 100. (2019-11-14 01:09) zeronet: I also use ProtonVPN as you see (2019-11-14 01:10) zeronet: There is nothing what you can do to track me not even the FBI (2019-11-14 01:10) zeronet: :D (2019-11-14 01:10) zeronet: I sue secure core which is even more secure than just connecting to one VPN server (2019-11-14 01:10) KiloLima: https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonVPN/comments/6jablj/this_is_protonvpn_on_the_vpn_comparison_chart_of/djdvsj8/ (2019-11-14 01:10) zeronet: most servers in Switzerland are underground 1000m deep in the Alps (2019-11-14 01:11) KiloLima: the logs can be /null/ (2019-11-14 01:11) zeronet: it is null (2019-11-14 01:11) KiloLima: and not stored in the ram cache (2019-11-14 01:11) KiloLima: enabling trezor data reassembly (2019-11-14 01:11) zeronet: but they can monitor the connection with wireshark if needed (2019-11-14 01:12) KiloLima: Perfect Privacy offers more features and security (2019-11-14 01:12) zeronet: I find back in 2017 that NSA targeted my computer (2019-11-14 01:12) zeronet: I still have the logs (2019-11-14 01:12) KiloLima: at a higher price, but execution isn't that great. (2019-11-14 01:12) zeronet: I asked than ProtonVPN to investogate (2019-11-14 01:12) zeronet: and truly the IP belongs to NSA (2019-11-14 01:12) zeronet: I was targeted by them directly (2019-11-14 01:14) KiloLima: you must have been juicy (2019-11-14 01:14) KiloLima: hiding dem nudes (2019-11-14 01:15) zeronet: I'm someone who is a high profile target (2019-11-14 01:15) zeronet: I can tell you that (2019-11-14 01:16) KiloLima: I'm going to rest. (2019-11-14 01:16) KiloLima: Seems like the channel has become shitttalk central over here. (2019-11-14 01:16) zeronet: The IP range from which they attacked me is also listed on CRYPTOME (2019-11-14 01:17) zeronet: I even captured they attacks with WireShark and switched servers after the capture (2019-11-14 01:17) zeronet: when I notified ProtonVPN about the attack they pretty well mitigated and since then I don't seen anything regarding NSA (2019-11-14 01:18) zeronet:** I can also upload the Captured data to proof what I'm saying

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