Open fredrik1984 opened 1 year ago
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q4731015 has a wrong end day for AK, correct should be 23 January 1953. See https://portrattarkiv.se/details/sj9PGLAlnmUAAAAAABgSNQ
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5966411 is missing i-ort (Lundell i Ebbetorp), and he was member of two parties during his time: lmb and h. Source: bio book 2, p. 292. There is also no link to the photo archive
OT I activated a tool Mix and Match - manual - video - could be an candidate for the project to match datasets with Wikidata....
@fredrik1984 back to you to confirm / explain or just close issue
Nisser on arz looks ok 😅
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5944957 incorrect birth date. Correct: 1818-03-24, source Biografibanden nr 4, s. 112 Missing i-ort (Stockholm and Halmstad)
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6218207 incorrect birth date. Correct: 1803-08-11. Source https://portrattarkiv.se/details/NhqpvvI9tpAAAAAAAAApnw and Biografibanden nr 2 s. 114. Missing i-ort (Gryt)
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5776520. Has two i-ort but one is missing (Örebro, senare Stockholm) Source https://portrattarkiv.se/details/sj9PGLAlnmUAAAAAABfsbA And the parties are not the same in Wikidata as in the biografiband
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6185927 Missing party "FK:s kons grupp", source https://portrattarkiv.se/details/sj9PGLAlnmUAAAAAABfP-Q
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q52951 Two "date of birth", the correct is 1820-02-15.
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5936769 party: ministriella p, Imp source https://portrattarkiv.se/details/sj9PGLAlnmUAAAAAABfRgQ
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5807346. Party: lmp
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q52964 the second period is missing, FK för Sth l 1876-1893 o 1895 (18.4.1895)-1900 (2.4.1900), source Biografiband nr 1, s. 278
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6085569 Party: centern 1876-1878, nya centern 1883-1887, nya Imp 1888- 1890
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6185927 Two "death date", the correct is 1875-09-29 source https://portrattarkiv.se/details/sj9PGLAlnmUAAAAAABfP-Q
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6149374 misses i-ort (Lindén i Gamleby, Lindén i Vimmerby), and correct end date in FK (1956-01-21). https://portrattarkiv.se/details/sj9PGLAlnmUAAAAAABgcoQ
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5554662 should also have i-ort "Andersson i Södergården" (https://portrattarkiv.se/details/sj9PGLAlnmUAAAAAABgbRw).
Otherwise, he will be confused with this MP: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5553810 + https://portrattarkiv.se/details/sj9PGLAlnmUAAAAAABgbhA
@fredrik1984 Q5776520#P102 feels like a mess with "parties" without dates... any other sources /thoughts
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6185927 Two "death date", the correct is 1875-09-29
@Lottabrorsson Thanks Wikidata can handle more facts that contradict each other and we then do a decision that normally is based on the source with most trust get preferred or as in this case the sources that is from the time nearest the event - the death book Q10478639 in this case --- I have updated P570 with the death book link swe eng se longer post about mismatches Wikidata <-> Riksarkivet SBL that we track and could be accessed by Riksarkivet with SPARQL
we try to report back to Riksarkivet SBL in email and often get feedback as email but we have a small chaos to understand when they change and what they have changed as they dont have a change stream compare Wikidata change stream
[ ] Q6085569
Party: centern 1876-1878, nya centern 1883-1887, nya Imp 1888- 1890
- please use WD objects and not text strings.... there is an discussion that we need some research paper about Swedish parties ... see 252#issuecomment-1516974332 What constitutes a party before 1900 is not always clear. But in the Swerik project, we have also decided to use the bio books as our bible. However, in the end, we might merge some of the party names that represent the same party but with different names.
[X] Q52964
[X] Q5807346
[X] Q5936769
[X] Q5944957
[X] Q6149374
[X] Q5554662
- Q5553810#P1889
I simply think that exact "party" dates are missing because there were no clear-cut shifts when someone "left" a "party" and "joined" another. I think that the stated years in bio books build on approximately for when MPs joined different "lists" and when they voted for proposals that these "lists" favored. But I will start to ask my historians colleagues about this! Maybe we can at least get a better name for "party" in Wikidata when it comes to the 19th century.
because there were no clear-cut shifts
I had thoughts before to add sourcing circumstances P1480
I tried to match Andreas Önnerfors, Mystiskt brödraskap – mäktigt nätverk: studier i det svenska 1700-talsfrimureriet with a WIkibase instance from Gothia University FactGrid were I felt the trust of the match should be documented see T266745
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5923219 has no link to the portrait archive. Bio book 3, p. 130.
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1448829 has no i-ort (Rönn-Christiansson i Göteborg) and no link to the portrait archive. Bio book 4, p. 144.
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5560111 misses exact start/end dates for AK (1943-08-03 –– 1958-09-03). https://portrattarkiv.se/details/sj9PGLAlnmUAAAAAABfR-A
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q3162739 misses specific start/end dates for AK (1947-12-09 –– 1952). Then he was AK member again 1953–1961. https://portrattarkiv.se/details/sj9PGLAlnmUAAAAAABfNcQ
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5923219 has no link to the portrait archive. Bio book 3, p. 130.
@fredrik1984 lesson learned is
I add pictures I don't find with no value
Nota Bene the search engine on SPA don't work good with pictures with a lot of text so sometimes they can be difficult to find...
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5768483 missing exact "end date" for the period 1882-1886: 1886-12-27 source: https://portrattarkiv.se/details/sj9PGLAlnmUAAAAAABgbSA
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5609230 missing party: centern
@Lottabrorsson Which centern is it ? SPARQL textstring "centern"
The wiki article Eugène Clairfelt dont help us...
Sorry, I don´t know. I just use Biografibanden. Maybe I can figure out which one they refer to/mean when the use "centern". Or what do you think @fredrik1984
@Lottabrorsson is right here: we use the bio books as the bible. @salgo60 if you look at the "hierarchical party tree" in the beginning of the books, you see that there was a "party" called "centern" 1873–1882. Which of course should not be confused with the current centerpartiet!
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q3054681 missing end date 1881-03-30. Party: in biografibandet it says "FK:s konservativa grupp" source: https://portrattarkiv.se/details/sj9PGLAlnmUAAAAAABfQAw
I think we need some good curated data. Wikidata needs some good sources,,,,
"One antipattern" I have seen in WD is that "Liberalerna" has been set for a lot of parties in the old days I have tried to clean that in WD but Wikidata is an open plattform so you never now 😭
%20%20(sample(?bild)%20AS%20?bild)%20%0A?birth%20?death%20?partyLabel%20WHERE%20%7B%0A%0A%20%20VALUES%20?member%20%7B%0A%20%20%20%20wd:Q33071890%20%0A%20%20%20%20wd:Q81531912%20%0A%20%20%20%20wd:Q82697153%20%0A%20%20%20%20wd:Q10655178%20%0A%20%20%7D%0A%20%20?person%20wdt:P39%20?member;%0A%20%20%20%20wdt:P1343%20?source.%0A%20%20?person%20p:P1343%20?pTva.%0A%20%20OPTIONAL%7B?person%20wdt:P102%20?party%7D%0A%20%20OPTIONAL%7B?person%20wdt:P569%20?birth%7D%0A%20%20OPTIONAL%7B?person%20wdt:P570%20?death%7D%0A%20%20?pTva%20ps:P1343%20wd:Q110346241.%0A%20%20?pTva%20prov:wasDerivedFrom%20%5B%20pr:P4819%20?SPAid%20%5D.%0A%0A%20%20OPTIONAL%20%7B?person%20wdt:P18%20?bild%7D.%0A%20%0A%20%20BIND(URI(CONCAT(%22https://portrattarkiv.se/details/%22,?SPAid))%20AS%20?SPA)%0A%0A%20%20SERVICE%20wikibase:label%20%7B%20bd:serviceParam%20wikibase:language%20%22sv,en%22.%20%7D%0A%7D%20GROUP%20BY%20%20?person%20?personLabel%20%20?death%20?birth%20?partyLabel%0Aorder%20by%20?partyLabel&md=true&g=article&l=SPA&t=personLabel&s=birth&e=death&i=bild&d=0&c=partyLabel&f=partyLabel&v=t)
Another timeline but link to Wikidata%20%20(sample(?bild)%20AS%20?bild)%20%0A?birth%20?death%20?partyLabel%20WHERE%20%7B%0A%0A%20%20VALUES%20?member%20%7B%0A%20%20%20%20wd:Q33071890%20%0A%20%20%20%20wd:Q81531912%20%20%0A%20%20%7D%0A%20%20?person%20wdt:P39%20?member;%0A%20%20%20%20wdt:P1343%20?source.%0A%20%20?person%20p:P1343%20?pTva.%0A%20%20OPTIONAL%7B?person%20wdt:P102%20?party%7D%0A%20%20OPTIONAL%7B?person%20wdt:P569%20?birth%7D%0A%20%20OPTIONAL%7B?person%20wdt:P570%20?death%7D%0A%0A%0A%20%20OPTIONAL%20%7B?person%20wdt:P18%20?bild%7D.%0A%20%0A%0A%20%20SERVICE%20wikibase:label%20%7B%20bd:serviceParam%20wikibase:language%20%22sv,en%22.%20%7D%0A%7D%20GROUP%20BY%20%20?person%20?personLabel%20%20?death%20?birth%20?partyLabel%0Aorder%20by%20?partyLabel&md=true&g=article&l=person&t=personLabel&s=birth&e=death&i=bild&d=0&c=partyLabel&f=partyLabel&v=t)
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6054467 missing i-ort: Vreten and party: lmp:s filial (1873-1884)
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6045499 Party: (in wikidata: lmp 1873-1887) Not in wikidata: nya lmp 1888-1896 (the same as Lantmannapartiet?)
"https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6184928 missing party: "FK :s konservativa grupp", ministriella p, centern, nya centern source: https://portrattarkiv.se/details/sj9PGLAlnmUAAAAAABgaAg
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5604447 party: centern is missing source: https://portrattarkiv.se/details/sj9PGLAlnmUAAAAAABfOHw
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5556673 miss a second party (lmb), now only h is listed. https://portrattarkiv.se/details/sj9PGLAlnmUAAAAAABfOQQ
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6085702 Incorrect start date of FK (1869), correct is 1870, Missing i-ort: Stockholm source: biografiband 4, p. 267.
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6150973 has no i-ort (Lundgren i Umeå) and has an incorrect death date (correct is 1969-07-16). Bio book 5, p. 363.
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6082121 has no i-ort (Rubbestad i Rubbestad, Rubbestad i Vrine), and incorrect death date (correct is 1961-08-05). Bio book 4, p. 230.
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6196822 has no i-ort (Sunne i Mjölby). Bio book 2, p. 108.
@fredrik1984 @Lottabrorsson isnt it easier that you update directly in WIkidata adding a correct date is not rocket science...
I think a more structured approach is that the book is transformed to TEI at least the articles... with well defined tags for
some of the issues I see
[ ] get a good linked data structure of Swedish parties - we need an issue for this in your backlog
[ ] the same with electional districts.... today I see some maybe good articles in sv.Wikipedia and the work done by other but we miss
One way to get better quality in Wikidata is using Entity Schemas - I started on one see #129
WD Q1448829 has two SPA properties P4819
I have started to add book references ---> sj9PGLAlnmUAAAAAABfkWw is Tvåkammar-riksdagen 1867–1970
SPA API --> endpoints/portraits.php?id=sj9PGLAlnmUAAAAAABfkWw you have the text in json
SPA started as a one man scanning project and some good programmers built him an application --> you have structured data BUT its not 100 percent e.g . PortraitCatalog": ["Tvåkammar-riksdagen 1867-"] could be from the book but is nit always
@salgo60 I just created my Wikidata account! It was easier than I thought to edit dates and i-ort. I suggest @Lottabrorsson and Mattias do the same. I think it will save us all some time.
@salgo60 would it be of for you to fix the posts above in this issue?
Moved above comment to #130
@fredrik1984 you get much better control when you have your own account and people can ping you plus you can install gadgets see #123
@fredrik1984 you can also Edit without an account...
I am on my way out eating tonight but let me know if we should share screen tomorrow and I can show the gadgets I use to easier edit or connect pictures... also the Entity explosion plug-in that use WD to make it possible to jump between Twitter Libris SBL museums SPA
Interesting I saw that someone cleaned the "vilde" object in Wikidata.... https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q108546388&action=history
We also got a new vilde see https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q98545439&action=history
Thanks @salgo60, but I think this will do fine for now! If I bump into something more tricky I will let you know!
A question: how is it with A- and B-riksdagar? i can see that in Wikidata it´s only a year but in the bio it´s also, for example, "A".
I start this issue here so that we in the Swerik project can report missing MP info (iort, party, chamber etc) in Wikidata. We are very grateful that you are willing to fix these missing data @salgo60!
I post the first reports here in this post, and then plan to do one new post for each MP that has a missing Wikidata info that we need.
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6178299 is missing i-ort (Sjödahl i Göteborg) and specific start dates in FK (20 March 1931). Source: bio book 4, p. 150. He has not got a link to the Swedish portrait archive either.
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q55955 is missing AK start date (16 March 1897). Source: https://portrattarkiv.se/details/sj9PGLAlnmUAAAAAABfN4g
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6209073 as a slightly incorrect i-ort (correct should be Thorell i Stolp-Ekeby). Also, he is missing party for https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q10554125. Source: bio book 1, p. 271. https://portrattarkiv.se/details/sj9PGLAlnmUAAAAAABHgKQ
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6078273 is missing i-ort (Roos i Malmö). Source: bio book 3, p. 266.
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6012769 is missing i-ort (Nisser i Grycksbo) and specific start date in FK (11 January 1938). He is also missing a reference to the portrait archive. Source: bio book 5, p. 80.