Open jcohenadad opened 3 months ago
@jcohenadad Just to double-check. This is the manuscript?
So I can mention title and co-authors, when I reach out to manufacturers. I will start when I come back from vacation end of July.
Yes, it is.
So I can mention title and co-authors, when I reach out to manufacturers
it is better if I'm the point of contact with manufacturers-- these are very sensitive information that they shared and I prefer that they are not under the impression that I distributed it widely
Before I continue, this is for the coil in line # 2 and 4. Does that serve the purpose? They are CAD models so we can turn and shift and modify later.
It takes me some time to create them though, but it's the only way that I can think of.
Before I continue, this is for the coil in line # 2 and 4. Does that serve the purpose?
Yes, that’s what I had in mind. We should sit down together so I can explain the fine details of how to display the elements.
One strange thing however, is that line #2, which is CRMBM, is an 8ch TxRx, which looks different than the what you showed
@jcohenadad I meant line # 2 in the centralized document. Or do we need only models for the ones you mentioned above?
@jcohenadad I meant line # 2 in the centralized document. Or do we need only models for the ones you mentioned above?
Why are you modeling line #2 of the centralized document? It is not needed— see the list:
MGH/MNI: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37439129/ CRMBM: 8ch Tx/Rx (Rapid Biomedical) MPI: 24ch Tx/Rx (MRItools) MSSM: 4ch Tx 22ch Rx + 4ch Tx 18ch Rx (Custom) NTNU: Same as MPI UCL: Same as CRMBM
CRMBM: 8ch Tx/Rx (Rapid Biomedical)
MGH/MNI. I had to doctor the Rx array to fit the human body model. Coil 3D model from Nibardo.
Changes: -White background -continuous conductors -human body model with higher resolution. I haven't found a fast way to make the human model smoother, it might take a day maybe more. I personally think it's fine, but up to you.
Much better! Yes, I agree the human model looks fine as is. I would just make it lighter so it contrasts better with the coil elements.
Also, would it be possible to have the coil elements appear as 3D wires, as opposed to as a flat surface? They would appear more clearly (eg: we don't see the upper most element very well depending on its orientation)
Grey gives a good contrast, and is skin colour neutral.
3D wires would take me a day. I thickened the surface which serves the purpose, I hope.
Great! Would you be able to make the gray much lighter?
How is this?
This is MSSM:
On the MSSM coil, are the two posterior purple elements Tx/Rx? If it is Tx-only, I would pick another color (eg red)
Yes, that's purple, in their MRM paper they are TR elements.
maybe we should pick another blue or purple, to better distinguish the two (I find them very close in intensity). Maybe a slightly lighter blue?
How is this?
Here the paper figure. Let me know if you want any changes.
a) MPI: 24ch Tx/Rx (MRItools), NTNU: Same as MPI b) CRMBM: 8ch Tx/Rx (Rapid Biomedical), UCL: Same as CRMBM c) MSSM: 4ch Tx 22ch Rx + 4ch Tx 18ch Rx (Custom) d) MGH/MNI: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37439129/
red: Tx elements, blue: Rx only elements, purple: TR elements
excellent, thank you @honzink.
How is this blue?
How is this blue?
much better, thanks!
Here the four subfigures:
@honzink for archiving purpose (eg: reproduce/modify figure in the future), I'd like to keep all figure sources inside a centralized location. Can you please point us to the location of the files with which you produced those figures? Thanks
Given that this paper is about comparing coils, an obvious question when interpreting B1+ and B1- results is: how are the Tx and Rx coils distributed for each coil? We should gather this information from each site (whenever possible, given that some are proprietary), and create a figure with this. Example of layout figure:
We could use the same color coding to display coil arrangement. For example, Tx elements in red, Rx in blue and Tx/Rx in purple.
Ideally, we would display the STL file in the notebook for interactive 3D view of each coil layout.
List of sites to generate a model from:
👉 Centralized document with added information