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squeek502 / VeganOption

A Minecraft mod that seeks to add vegan alternatives to all Minecraft mob/animal products
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In-world crafting option for vegetable oil #3

Closed squeek502 closed 9 years ago

squeek502 commented 9 years ago

Not really sure how best to pull this one off, but it'd be nice to have in-world crafting alternatives for most things added by the mod.

freyquency commented 9 years ago

Was just thinking - maybe the piston dynamic you use for potatoes, over ice, could be part of it. Inspired by this cold-pressing How it's Made.

squeek502 commented 9 years ago

Yeah, I'd like to use the same piston method, but the trouble is that the output is a fluid (or a bottled fluid), which makes it somewhat difficult, as the fluid block can't be placed if the piston is extended (or, if bottled, where does the bottle come from)?

Perhaps, I could do something like:

I'm not sure if the byproduct would be worth it, but I think it'd help. I could also store the coordinates in the chunk data or something like that, I guess.

Perhaps also I could force the piston to retract once it crushes a vegetable oil source and then "schedule" the fluid block placement.

EDIT: Or, I guess, the output could be the fluid block as an item, but I'm not sure there's any other mods that do that and it seems pretty weird.

freyquency commented 9 years ago

In regard to the "Where does the bottle come from?" maybe just leave it as a fluid? A dispenser with an empty bucket could do automation if the player wanted it. Perhaps, going back to the ice thing I mentioned (a Minecrafty "cold press") the pressing of the vegetable oil source combined with the ice underneath melts the ice into oil instead of water?

squeek502 commented 9 years ago

Ideally I'd like to leave it a fluid; my point was that having the output be an item makes implementing it very simple, but it doesn't really work in this case because of the bottle.

Simply turning the ice into vegetable oil might be a good option.

squeek502 commented 9 years ago

So, what I've decided to do is require a fluid handler (tank, drum, etc) below the piston head to catch the fluid output.

The only downside is that VO doesn't add a fluid handler, so it'd rely on other mods for this in-world crafting to be possible. I'm not sure if I should add a basic tank-like block to VO for this purpose or if relying on other mods in this way would be okay. Let me know what you think, @erima.

Note also that this will also work for plant milk (see #4), but the piston will need to both displace a water block and crush 2 plant milk source items + sugar for it to work.

freyquency commented 9 years ago

Hm. What about the cauldron? Could you drop fluid in it?

squeek502 commented 9 years ago

The cauldron is utter garbage. It'd need a complete rewrite for it to have any potential uses. I originally wanted to use the cauldron for this type of crafting, but it simply isn't feasible, unfortunately.

freyquency commented 9 years ago

Hm, what about a press into a brewing stand? Use the bottles in the bottom, item in the top, a press above? Not exactly in-world but it seems like your goal is to keep a lot of these things self-contained to VO in the long run. Aside from creating a storage container of some sort it seems like having support for other mod tanks is good, but not self-contained.

squeek502 commented 9 years ago

Using a brewing stand like that seems a bit weird.

I'm pretty much set on the fluid tank solution, and have it nearly finished (just need to finish up the NEI handler for piston recipes).

If I add a fluid tank, I could make it get automatically filled by finite liquids that flow into them (aka raw ender). That way, it'd have an internal purpose, it'd enable this type of crafting in a self-contained way, and it'd be (slightly) unique.