Open wouteraddink opened 1 year ago
Jegelewicz
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1 year ago It is unfortunate that @tdwg/material-sample work is not considered in this at all. It might benefit those working on the document to participate in the MaterialSample Task Group.
wouteraddink
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1 year ago Hi Teresa, In the MaterialSample task group is Matt representing the DiSSCo technical team as we tried to distribute the work a bit. This should also ensure alignment with LtC. Jutta is involved and has done work for DiSSCo also. I did not explicitly mention the material-sample work as I thought it is still much a work in progress but it was taken into account, e.g. by adding a field to distinguish between materialEntity and digitalEntity, also needed for the new GBIF schema. So I do not see incompatibility with the proposed new DwC term MaterialEntity? What am I missing?
One thing we cannot use though is the draft dwc: materialSampleType vocabulary which I think currently contains FossilSpecimen, LivingSpecimen, PreservedSpecimen, EnvironmentalSample. That does not fit our needs in DiSSCo which has a wider scope and it is also lacking detail. One thing I find confusing is that the term name dwc:materialSampleType was chosen as there is an iSamples vocabulary for that term already.
The issue we now have in DiSSCo is that we need to move forward with implementation and I hope that at least MIDS and LtC are ready enough to build on. The urgent need we now have for implementation is the development of some controlled vocabularies for the digital specimen FDO record part. The proposed vocabs are not final and suggestions for improvement are welcome!
Jegelewicz
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1 year ago dwc: materialSampleType - as far as I know, there is no such term in Darwin Core?
tucotuco
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1 year ago That is correct, the term dwc:materialSampleType is a fabrication.
Jegelewicz
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1 year ago In addition, the MaterialSample Task Group has determined that a term such as materialSampleType would be overburdened and we have been considering the iSamples terms (yes all three). But we definitely see issues with the controlled vocabularies in iSamples as they relate to biological material and we have had to move away from this in order to work on a larger class of material - MaterialEntity as we attempt to create appropriate material terms for the new GBIF model that is in testing.
Jegelewicz
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1 year ago MIDS and LtC are ready enough to build on
While this may be true, as far as I know these have not been formally adopted and could end up being different than whatever is there now.
wouteraddink
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1 year ago That is correct and we are aware of it. In that case we may need to adjust implementation.
Op do 23 mrt. 2023 19:54 schreef Teresa Mayfield-Meyer < @.***>:
MIDS and LtC are ready enough to build on
While this may be true, as far as I know these have not been formally adopted and could end up being different than whatever is there now.
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wouteraddink
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1 year ago OK, so it looks we are in agreement?
Op do 23 mrt. 2023 19:52 schreef Teresa Mayfield-Meyer < @.***>:
In addition, the MaterialSample Task Group has determined that a term such as materialSampleType would be overburdened and we have been considering the iSamples terms (yes all three). But we definitely see issues with the controlled vocabularies in iSamples as they relate to biological material and we have had to move away from this in order to work on a larger class of material - MaterialEntity as we attempt to create appropriate material terms for the new GBIF model that is in testing.
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wouteraddink
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1 year ago Correct, but was it not discussed as a possible new DwC term? That is what I understood from the GitHub issues. If not then there is no problem.
Op do 23 mrt. 2023 19:42 schreef Teresa Mayfield-Meyer < @.***>:
dwc: materialSampleType - as far as I know, there is no such term in Darwin Core?
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tucotuco
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1 year ago Yes, there is an open issue for it, which was relegated to the Material Sample Task Group.
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Correct, but was it not discussed as a possible new DwC term? That is what I understood from the GitHub issues. If not then there is no problem.
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For your information, an RFC for a high level specimen and collection classification, to implement in DiSSCo and to use in the FDO record for a digital specimen. Since this is related to how we plan to implement LtC, I also post it here. RFC Document please review this RFC before 15 April 2023. Note that controlled vocabularies are not part of the LtC standard in development.