DEV: Make tracking information available

darionewmonday commented 5 years ago

Questions we want to answer with the tracking and indicators we want to use: How many people find the tool? --> page views How do people use the tool? --> interaction parameters like link clicks (search results and help links), time they stay on the page Which topics are interesting for users? --> terms entered in the search field Do users edit after using the tool? --> edit count after they used the tool Do users make the suggested edits or other edits? --> edit type after they used the tool

Comments/Solutions: It needs to be clarified with WMF whether tracking in toollabs-environment is possible Internal tracking solutions for webpages is matomo Single log in needs to be activated in order to track editing behavior of users after they leave the tool (OAuth)

dev-ckln commented 5 years ago

We can add tracking for various things on our side but can't do that on wikipedia site.

darionewmonday commented 5 years ago

Can you elaborate this pls?

Il lun 2 set 2019, 14:58 Deepak notifications@github.com ha scritto:

We can add tracking for various things on our side but can't do that on wikipedia site.

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ChristineDomgoergen commented 5 years ago

Hi @darionewmonday, so we need some figures on the usage of the tool itself:

page views
interaction parameters like link clicks etc.
terms entered in the search field

--> these are things which probably can be tracked in the tool itself ("our side" if I understand Deepak's comment correctly)

Then we need some figures on the impact of the tool usage on edits of users.

Do users edit after using the tool? --> edit count after they used the tool
Do users make the suggested edits or other edits? --> edit type after they used the tool

These cannot be tracked in the tool itself. Our idea was to get the user to log-in using Oauth in the tool because then we can probably track (ourselves, we have a data analyst) the edits they make in Wikipedia ("wikipedia site" as Deepak calls it). We discussed this briefly in the Kick-Off:

it is difficult though to get the user to log in because they don't see the benefit.
it is unclear, if users are automatically logged in in Wikipedia when they log in in the tool, then leave the tool and go to Wikipedia

Does this help?

dev-ckln commented 5 years ago

So there is two kind of data that we want , one is from our tool and that can be tracked very easily no problem in that for example:-

page views interaction parameters like link clicks etc. terms entered in the search field

But the tracking that we want after the user has been redirected to wikipedia is the tricky one , Give me time for today , I'll look for some table in the DB that we have for something related to that.

Will update on this one today.

darionewmonday commented 5 years ago

@dev-ckln thank you. Please do not invest more than 1 hour researching this topic. If it's too complex, we must find a different solution or go just for the first option you have suggested. Thanks

dev-ckln commented 5 years ago

Okay Got it.

ChristineDomgoergen commented 5 years ago

@darionewmonday @dev-ckln Yes, we can do this part of the tracking. The only thing to check from your side is if users are automatically logged in in Wikipedia when they log in in the tool, then leave the tool and go to Wikipedia.

And we should discuss if it makes sense to to establish oauth - the single log in in the tool, so we have a basis for further tracking in the future.

dev-ckln commented 5 years ago

@tobijat I was creating a tracking table in the DB but it shows the following error

ERROR 1290 (HY000): The MariaDB server is running with the --read-only option so it cannot execute this statement

Can you please check?

darionewmonday commented 5 years ago

Mention Tobi pls

dev-ckln commented 5 years ago

@tobijat DB permission is required

tobijat commented 5 years ago

@dev-ckln here's the documentation about databases on toolforge: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Toolforge/Database#Connecting_to_the_database_replicas Which DB did you connect to and tried writing to? The replica one is read-only.

dev-ckln commented 5 years ago

@tobijat Here are the steps that I follow to connect to DB

ssh into server using my rsa key
then I type become mitmachen
and then to connect to DB, I type sql dewiki_p

Please let me know if something is wrong.

tobijat commented 5 years ago

@dev-ckln dewiki_p is a replica of the live system and is read-only. You can't create new tables there. I think what you need is to connect to the ToolsDB (it's described in the link I've posted above), there you should be able to create own tables. Nothing more I can tell, as I've not worked with custom DBs on toolforge before.

dev-ckln commented 5 years ago

@tobijat I checked the link and I think they won't allow us to connect to production or live database as is evident from the first line of the documentation. Also I tried to find what other DBs are there on the server. Here's a list of them, please let me know if any of them seems familiar to you in regard to being production or not

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yowikibooks_p
yowiktionary_p
yuewiktionary_p
zawiki_p
zawikibooks_p
zawikiquote_p
zawiktionary_p
zeawiki_p
zh_classicalwiki_p
zh_min_nanwiki_p
zh_min_nanwikibooks_p
zh_min_nanwikiquote_p
zh_min_nanwikisource_p zh_min_nanwiktionary_p zh_yuewiki_p
zhwiki_p
zhwikibooks_p
zhwikinews_p
zhwikiquote_p
zhwikisource_p
zhwikiversity_p
zhwikivoyage_p
zhwiktionary_p
zuwiki_p
zuwikibooks_p
zuwiktionary_p

Also as the above link states to connect to ToolsDB, use sql local which I did, then I typed show tables; It showed error that no tables is there, please select Database, then I typed `show databases;' It showed me a list of databases, now I don't know which database is the correct one, maybe you can help in that, here is the list of all databases information_schema
s51071templatetiger_p
s51072__internallinks_p
s51075flickrfree_p
s51080checkwiki_p
s51100wp10_p
s51100_mass_translate_p
s51111common_p
s51138heritage_p
s51172ilc_p
s51192__wlx_p
s51203baglama2_p
s51203inventory_p
s51205__terminator_p
s51211duplicity_p
s51211feed_p
s51211__ib2_p
s51211monitor_p
s51211pagepile_p
s51211__sourcerer_p
s51211uk_grade2_p
s51211wikidata_cache_p
s51211wikidata_merge_by_id_p
s51218wdfist_p
s51290__dpl_p
s51296huwiki_p
s51306copyright_p
s51330__copyvios_p
s51334enwiki_first_page_revisions_p s51402commonsedge_p
s51415__stations_p
s51430bswiki_first_page_revisions_p s51434mixnmatch2015_p
s51434__mixnmatch_large_catalogs_p
s51434mixnmatch_p
s51454TemplateParamBot_p
s51782__data_p
s51816krakenbase_p
s51886validator_p
s51892_toolserverdb_p
s51999distributed_game_p
s52164worldadmin98_p
s52229wlmuk_p
s52355wikisoba_p
s52380__metamine_p
s52421commonsdelinquent_p
s52469clickstream_p
s52475__wpx_p
s52507costar_p
s52515querylog_p
s52532__listeria_p
s52561wsexport_p
s52680science_source_p
s52680sourcemd_batches_p
s52680sourcemd_game_p
s52680sourcemd_orcid_p
s52688wits_p
s52709__kian_p
s52781wd_p
s52832every_p
s52861__bwAPI_p
s52872derechoavoto_p
s52946gns_p
s52961__WAKT_p
s52964missingpages_p
s52973alvarowiki_p
s53017__crocodylia_p
s53069tooltranslate_p
s53096tabletop_p
s53113__wscontest_p
s53132trex_p
s53143ccm2_p
s53143__ccm_p
s53143cee_db_p
s53143estlat_p
s53143__future_p
s53143jury_p
s53143lvstats_p
s53143__meta_p
s53143mis_lists_p
s53143missing_p
s53143__npp_p
s53143reminders_p
s53143rlrl_ltgwiki_p
s53143sakartosana_p
s53143spring_p
s53143__uzwiki_p
s53143wikidays_p
s53143wmlCheck_p
s53220__quickstatements_p
s53343comprende_p
s53463actrial_p
s53610__orpheus_p
s53704toolflow_p
s53734toolviews_p
s53812__topicmatcher_p
s53815wiki_fb_p
s53821test_index_p
s53844heritage_p
s53865wdpv_p
s53867__referee_p
s53910wikicite_dashboard_p
s53917npp_p
s53929__ccm_p
s53952freebase_p
s53957dev_p
s54020wsexport_test_p
s54023projector_p
s54062booster_p
toollabs_p
u1092_epsg_p
u13367templatetiger_p
u15513__booster_p
u16664wdcm_p
u2362wikidata_humans_p
u2815p
u2815rdp
+---------------------------------------+ 117 rows in set (0.12 sec)

MariaDB [(none)]> MariaDB [(none)]> show tables; ERROR 1046 (3D000): No database selected MariaDB [(none)]> show databases; +---------------------------------------+ Database
+---------------------------------------+ information_schema
s51071templatetiger_p
s51072__internallinks_p
s51075flickrfree_p
s51080checkwiki_p
s51100wp10_p
s51100_mass_translate_p
s51111common_p
s51138heritage_p
s51172ilc_p
s51192__wlx_p
s51203baglama2_p
s51203inventory_p
s51205__terminator_p
s51211duplicity_p
s51211feed_p
s51211__ib2_p
s51211monitor_p
s51211pagepile_p
s51211__sourcerer_p
s51211uk_grade2_p
s51211wikidata_cache_p
s51211wikidata_merge_by_id_p
s51218wdfist_p
s51290__dpl_p
s51296huwiki_p
s51306copyright_p
s51330__copyvios_p
s51334enwiki_first_page_revisions_p s51402commonsedge_p
s51415__stations_p
s51430bswiki_first_page_revisions_p s51434mixnmatch2015_p
s51434__mixnmatch_large_catalogs_p
s51434mixnmatch_p
s51454TemplateParamBot_p
s51782__data_p
s51816krakenbase_p
s51886validator_p
s51892_toolserverdb_p
s51999distributed_game_p
s52164worldadmin98_p
s52229wlmuk_p
s52355wikisoba_p
s52380__metamine_p
s52421commonsdelinquent_p
s52469clickstream_p
s52475__wpx_p
s52507costar_p
s52515querylog_p
s52532__listeria_p
s52561wsexport_p
s52680science_source_p
s52680sourcemd_batches_p
s52680sourcemd_game_p
s52680sourcemd_orcid_p
s52688wits_p
s52709__kian_p
s52781wd_p
s52832every_p
s52861__bwAPI_p
s52872derechoavoto_p
s52946gns_p
s52961__WAKT_p
s52964missingpages_p
s52973alvarowiki_p
s53017__crocodylia_p
s53069tooltranslate_p
s53096tabletop_p
s53113__wscontest_p
s53132trex_p
s53143ccm2_p
s53143__ccm_p
s53143cee_db_p
s53143estlat_p
s53143__future_p
s53143jury_p
s53143lvstats_p
s53143__meta_p
s53143mis_lists_p
s53143missing_p
s53143__npp_p
s53143reminders_p
s53143rlrl_ltgwiki_p
s53143sakartosana_p
s53143spring_p
s53143__uzwiki_p
s53143wikidays_p
s53143wmlCheck_p
s53220__quickstatements_p
s53343comprende_p
s53463actrial_p
s53610__orpheus_p
s53704toolflow_p
s53734toolviews_p
s53812__topicmatcher_p
s53815wiki_fb_p
s53821test_index_p
s53844heritage_p
s53865wdpv_p
s53867__referee_p
s53910wikicite_dashboard_p
s53917npp_p
s53929__ccm_p
s53952freebase_p
s53957dev_p
s54020wsexport_test_p
s54023projector_p
s54062booster_p
toollabs_p
u1092_epsg_p
u13367templatetiger_p
u15513__booster_p
u16664wdcm_p
u2362wikidata_humans_p
u2815p
u2815rdp

Also there is the issue that the previous developer was using dewiki_p DB in the code.

tobijat commented 5 years ago

@dev-ckln exactly, you won't get access to the production live databases for obvious reasons. however, you get read-access to the replicas which contain the same data except for private user data. if you need your own database (that's what I understand you want, right?), I just tried and managed to do the following: become mitmachen mysql --defaults-file=replica.my.cnf -h tools.db.svc.eqiad.wmflabs //connects to the DB server using the credentials stored in replica-my.cnf create database s53772__mitmachen_p; //this seems to be the naming convention for custom user databases according to the list you've posted quit; mysql --defaults-file=replica.my.cnf -h tools.db.svc.eqiad.wmflabs s53772__mitmachen_p //connecting to the DB server using the newly created DB create table test_table(test_column string); //creates a new table with one column show tables; //shows my newly created table

Hope that helps.

tobijat commented 5 years ago

Also there is the issue that the previous developer was using dewiki_p DB in the code.

why is that an issue?

dev-ckln commented 5 years ago

@tobijat Yes we need to store some new data, we need tables for that. From what I understand, you have created a new Database that would mean that our application would need to connect to 2 different databases. Is that correct?

tobijat commented 5 years ago

@dev-ckln exactly. You need to connect to the replica(s) (can also be more than one DB, depending on which data you need) to get the data you need in order to run the application (e.g. category data, etc..). And you need to connect to your custom database in case you want to store and retrieve custum data.

tobijat commented 5 years ago

@dev-ckln depending on what exactly you want to store in the custom database, you might consider using some alternative data structure. e.g. for a simple count, a text file might be enough..

dev-ckln commented 5 years ago

I have implemented the tracking at the tool end

dev-ckln commented 5 years ago

So now we're tracking - search entered, which results users' clicks, which suggest category user clicks.

ChristineDomgoergen commented 5 years ago

@dev-ckln @NewMonday How can we test the tracking and how do we get access to the data?

dev-ckln commented 5 years ago

@ChristineDomgoergen We are saving this information in one of tables in our database. But it's not being shown on frontend anywhere.

NewMonday commented 5 years ago

@dev-ckln and how do we get access to the data/ the table in your database?

ChristineDomgoergen commented 5 years ago

@dev-ckln @tobijat Hi Deepak, we would need access to the data not in a developed frontend but a simple URL would be good, where we can access this data:

page views: should be stored daily and there should be the possibility to select the time span, for which then the page views will be shown
interaction parameters: per month aggregated number of users who click on article preview, on the links in the help panel, the direct links to the article
time span: how long do users stay in the tool: aggregated by duration
terms entered into the search field: aggregated by term, total numbers

ChristineDomgoergen commented 5 years ago

@dev-ckln @darionewmonday This has no priority for the launch tomorrow. Please tag me as soon as you have an update on this!

darionewmonday commented 5 years ago

@ChristineDomgoergen the tracking was included in the initial offer. The request to display the data in a custom way, as per your request, can take days of development, thus we need to discuss the effort and evaluate the best way to get you the data. @dev-ckln can you provide us with an estimation, to get the features @ChristineDomgoergen is asking for? thanks

ChristineDomgoergen commented 5 years ago

@dev-ckln @darionewmonday is there any update on this? I would like to know:

How can we get access to the data right now? (included in the initial offer)
How much time would it take to get the display features requested?

darionewmonday commented 5 years ago

@ChristineDomgoergen sure, we´re checking this right now.

dev-ckln commented 5 years ago

@ChristineDomgoergen @darionewmonday We have some questions here:

Does the page views need to be in table with date range filter? or something else? Per month aggregated users should be graph or something else? Same for link clicks and search terms.

Can you please clarify here.

ChristineDomgoergen commented 5 years ago

@dev-ckln Hi Deepak, yes the page views should be displayed with date range filter, so we can sort for certain search terms. About interaction parameters: per month aggregated number of users who click on article preview, on the links in the help panel, the direct links to the article --> can be a graph or just a number.

dev-ckln commented 5 years ago

@darionewmonday @ChristineDomgoergen Okay understood, I'll see what kind of page I can make

darionewmonday commented 5 years ago

@dev-ckln please wait until we get a confirmation from Christine.

ChristineDomgoergen commented 4 years ago

@darionewmonday @dev-ckln Hi thanks for answering no 2. For comparison I would need info on no 1 as well:

How can we get access to the data right now? (included in the initial offer)

dev-ckln commented 4 years ago

@ChristineDomgoergen The data is in the DB, Its in initial offer and we're not asking for anything. But we never discussed about how to show data(layout) so don't know about that only.

dev-ckln commented 4 years ago

@ChristineDomgoergen @darionewmonday Once you approve the estimate, let me know

dev-ckln commented 4 years ago

@ChristineDomgoergen

Here are the command to be executed in order

ssh into the server
Connect to DB instance mysql --defaults-file=replica.my.cnf -h tools.db.svc.eqiad.wmflabs
Type the following to use the following DB use s53772__mitracking_p;
You can type the following to see which tables are in the DB SHOW tables;
The tracking data is stored in tracking table, you can view data by SELECT * FROM tracking LIMIT 10;

This will show 10 rows but you can increase the number. Also if you want to see full data, you can type SELECT * FROM tracking;

You can see from data the there is type column which defines what kind of type data is stored search shows search queries typed and how many times similarly subcategoryarticle shows which subcategory is clicked and how many times.

Note: All sql queries need to have ; at the end otherwise it will show error.

darionewmonday commented 4 years ago

@ChristineDomgoergen a present from us (free of charge) https://tools.wmflabs.org/mitmachen/stats

Hope is ok.

ChristineDomgoergen commented 4 years ago

@darionewmonday Great, this looks good for the search terms! Can we also see the page views somehow?

darionewmonday commented 4 years ago

@ChristineDomgoergen I assume so. I need to check how long would it take. Can you have access to some budget?

ChristineDomgoergen commented 4 years ago

@darionewmonday Depends on the amount, but it would be possible, yes.

darionewmonday commented 4 years ago

@ChristineDomgoergen ok. Can you close this ticket then, and open a new one?

wmde / mitmachen

DEV: Make tracking information available #17