Conversation on the Missions

[TheGiraffe3]

Start the issue

[ProNooberEX]

(the Quarg fleets should go in the Quarg file)

Is it ok for me to call a quarg fleet when the txt file defining the quarg fleet is in the quarg file instead of the human file?

[TheGiraffe3]

Yes.

[ProNooberEX]

Well, GitHub doesn’t know what we’re doing. Those are checks the people in the main game wrote, but I think they may have dependencies not in this repository-aka we don’t have the information those tests need to pass, but it should work anyway. That’s guessing, but we can probably ignore them for now.

Btw so the people in the main endless sky repository could see what we are doing?

[TheGiraffe3]

They can see what we’re doing if they manually go here, but the actions I don’t think they can see.

[ProNooberEX]

They can see what we’re doing if they manually go here, but the actions I don’t think they can see.

Ok thats good, I am just fearing they would get mad as us?(They probably would have wanted Zitchas' consent on updating the files)

[TheGiraffe3]

They want Zitchas’ permission for the Remnant stuff. But we’re not modifying that. And they can’t get mad at us, it’s a free project. They can not put it in, but they can’t get angry.

[ProNooberEX]

They want Zitchas’ permission for the Remnant stuff. But we’re not modifying that. And they can’t get mad at us, it’s a free project. They can not put it in, but they can’t get angry.

Ok that is good news, and btw why do you say it doesn't matter until we PR it?

[TheGiraffe3]

Because it’s not ready. Right now we don’t want it in the base game, and it’s okay if it fails some checks. Once it’s ready, it needs to pass the checks.

[ProNooberEX]

Because it’s not ready. Right now we don’t want it in the base game, and it’s okay if it fails some checks. Once it’s ready, it needs to pass the checks.

Wait...we are ACTUALLY adding this to the game? WOW!

[TheGiraffe3]

Eventually, we’re hoping to. Right now, no, but (hopefully) eventually.

[ProNooberEX]

Man this is a lifetime's opportunity...I never thought I would be actually leaving an imprint on the game I have been playing for 3 years.

[TheGiraffe3]

Well, they may not accept it. But I’ve been playing this for 5 months and have already contributed.

And this is a lot bigger than any of my stuff.

[ProNooberEX]

Well, they may not accept it. But I’ve been playing this for 5 months and have already contributed.

What did you add may I ask?

[TheGiraffe3]

Typo fixes. 😄

[ProNooberEX]

You think that, if our contribution is accepted...maybe Zitchas would give us Person Ships and ingrain our mark on the game for others to see?

[TheGiraffe3]

I’m not sure we need person ships. Also, those are for bigger contributions, such as new aliens. We only have a storyline… but we will be added to the contributors list.

[TheGiraffe3]

But you can make a plugin that adds a person ship for yourself.

[ProNooberEX]

Anyways this would be something for potentially thousands of players to see...which is truly a remarkable experience.

[TheGiraffe3]

It is. Of course, not many people will be pirates on their first playthrough, but any contributions are nice.

[ProNooberEX]

Btw why does Github has this protection thing

You probably set it up somehow.

Also I want to ask if we were to debug this how do we do it? Do we download and play out the plot of this edited version of the game or something out?

We copy the contents of the files we changed and put them in our data files. I only know the path in Mac, but you right-click (two fingers if you’re on the built-in touchpad) and then Show Package Contents. Then you go through the Contents folder into Resources/data/human, and put the pirate file in there. If this doesn’t make sense, say so, I may be able to clarify it more.

Also Didn't this pose the risk of messing up your file you are currently playing?

It does, so you’ll probably want to start a new game with the World Forge plugin. It’s a way to test content without messing up saves. Basically you start on a planet called Forge which has all outfits and ships available for sale.

Btw here you said a World Forge Plugin, where and how could we add plugin to our game?(My game is on steam btw)

[TheGiraffe3]

You can post a plugin anywhere. World Forge is here.

[TheGiraffe3]

But to add a plugin, we just put it in the plugins folder ([your username]/Library/Application Support/endless-sky/plugins)

The saves folder is a level up.

[ProNooberEX]

Btw I finished the beginning Mission for the pirate 0 beginning file, if you want you can check it out.

So we probably don’t need the Quarg ships redefined, they’ll work anyway. Also, the outfits means they are carrying them, not using them.

Here you said the outfits are for carrying purposes, then how do I mount them onto the fleets I desire?

[TheGiraffe3]

You want to put them on the ships?

[TheGiraffe3]

You have to make variants, and add them to the fleets.

[ProNooberEX]

You have to make variants, and add them to the fleets.

Understood

[ProNooberEX]

Btw do any other contributes wish to join us?

[TheGiraffe3]

I don’t know. You can ask if you want, but not everyone will like your writing style, and may want to change it.

[ProNooberEX]

I don’t know. You can ask if you want, but not everyone will like your writing style, and may want to change it.

Is my writing style too bland?

[TheGiraffe3]

Well, you write in past tense. And grammar-wise, there might be problems? I don’t have problems with it, but I’m not a great writer…

[ProNooberEX]

Yeah true...maybe that is the case.

[ProNooberEX]

Here it says that the personalities of the pirates are "heroic", is this fitting for their character?

[TheGiraffe3]

Here it says that the personalities of the pirates are "heroic", is this fitting for their character?

Yes, because they’re not afraid of people. They want to attack and destroy (see this for more details).

[ProNooberEX]

What does the appeasing flag do?(I can't find it in the page)

[TheGiraffe3]

It means that if a ship’s shields and hull drop low enough, it will dump its cargo. (so that the pirates pick it up and then don’t destroy the ship)

[ProNooberEX]

Should I set the Scanned fleets quarg skylance to quarg anti missle?(I think that the pirate lord would only have the ability to board two to three quarg ships, so a fleet of them would be unlikely)

[TheGiraffe3]

The outfits part doesn’t mean they are installed. It actually doesn’t work at all, outfitters is required.

In response to your question, both would probably be fine, because the Quarg have both.

[TheGiraffe3]

Shall I make the outfitter?

[ProNooberEX]

Shall I make the outfitter?

Go ahead

[TheGiraffe3]

Shall I make the outfitter?

Go ahead

Done.

You are aware that these ships won’t have them equipped though?

[ProNooberEX]

Shall I make the outfitter?

Go ahead

Done.

You are aware that these ships won’t have them equipped though?

Can you make them equip these?

[TheGiraffe3]

Sure, though it will take a while.

[ProNooberEX]

Oh um, on a side note, I may be taking screenshots of potentially txt writing edited by you for providing evidence for thius activity for application purposes, May you permit me potentially exposing your code to outside officials?(If this troubles you I will just screenshot code written by myself)

[TheGiraffe3]

Seeing as how it’s not private anyway-everyone can see it-and it’s not important data, it’s fine.

No problem.

[ProNooberEX]

Seeing as how it’s not private anyway-everyone can see it-and it’s not important data, it’s fine.

No problem.

Thank you so much!

[ProNooberEX]

Did you move the "Quarg Jumpers" and "Quarg Hunters" to the quarg.txt?

[TheGiraffe3]

Did you move the "Quarg Jumpers" and "Quarg Hunters" to the quarg.txt?

Yes. You can still use them in other places.

[TheGiraffe3]

Made variants and added them to fleets.

At 200 comments, let’s move the discussion to another issue.

[ProNooberEX]

I agree, after the addition of the variants to fleets I think we are almost done with the pirate 0 txt(at least in my piratemission branch).

[TheGiraffe3]

In your branch, yes. In mine? Not really…