The Twins

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huckhuck55: The Twins start on opposite alignments, (town and wolves) (or could both start UA) Their goal is to have their twin die.

Evil twin (packless) If the evil twin manages to get the good twin killed, the evil twin will acquire new abilities. (tbd)

Good twin if the good twin manages to get the evil twin killed, the good twin will acquire new abilities (tbd)

the twins both know each other and start in a private chat.

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The8thSoul:

Is perm disguise too strong?

tbh, for this it would either be a strong temporary disguise or a weak permanent disguise

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The8thSoul: strong temporary could be 1 night long or 2 nights

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The8thSoul: weak permanent would be until the evil twin dies or someone checks them

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huckhuck55: Yeah, I’m into that So weak perm until they are the last twin.

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The8thSoul:

Oh sure. That’s interesting. Or even alternate per night.

alternating would be a bit too impactful

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The8thSoul:

alternating would be a bit too impactful

(coz they end up being lone wolf or secondary assassin/guardian)

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huckhuck55: I do feel like having a strong power after killing off the twin is important since they fought to get the other gone.

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huckhuck55: So maybe not prot/kill alternate, but something sort of beefy.

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The8thSoul:

I do feel like having a strong power after killing off the twin is important since they fought to get the other gone.

I think they should keep their investigate/disguise ability, but either gain an extra one use ability or get a strengthened version

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The8thSoul: for example, good twin gets an upgrade to checking for exact role (FT) or checking for alignment (Oracle, but one player) while evil twin gets an upgrade to permanently strong disguising players

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huckhuck55: Yeah, that could work too

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The8thSoul:

for example, good twin gets an upgrade to checking for exact role (FT) or checking for alignment (Oracle, but one player) while evil twin gets an upgrade to permanently strong disguising players

(this is for the strengthened ability idea)

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huckhuck55: Yeah ofc.

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huckhuck55: I do like that idea.

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huckhuck55: I just worry that it’s too much like Tanner to be added. However, this could be a substitute for Tanner in games due to the twin mechanic.

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The8thSoul:

I just worry that it’s too much like Tanner to be added. However, this could be a substitute for Tanner in games due to the twin mechanic.

I guess that's true

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huckhuck55: Like, not replace Tanner, but be used instead on some games where Tanner could be on the list.

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The8thSoul:

Like, not replace Tanner, but be used instead on some games where Tanner could be on the list.

so partial lists

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The8thSoul: ?

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The8thSoul: [altho tbh, it would be listed as limited]

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The8thSoul: welp, i gtg sleep, cya later :)

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huckhuck55: True, however, stating there are twins, both will most likely come out and claim to be good twin and to kill the ctc. Which makes me think the social dynamic of the role would be fun.

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huckhuck55: I don’t think it’s a concern as beta testing to announce there are twins in the game.

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Captain Luffy: Hi lulu

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Captain Luffy: That's my dogs nickname

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huckhuck55: Anyways. Good twin -starts with ability to check alignment of a list of 3 people. The info they get is for the alignments but in no specific order

• post twin kill, they can check exact roles of a selected player

Evil twin -starts by weakly disguising 3 players until change? Or 1 -post kill, strongly disguise player ?

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huckhuck55:

Hi lulu

Hi luffy!

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huckhuck55: Woof!

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huckhuck55: Can’t kill me this game! Cuz I’m your puppy 🐶

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mctsts: anyone have a summary?

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mctsts: this thread has no pinned messages <:pensivebread:800001047966908426>

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e_thsn:

anyone have a summary?

RN we're thinking JR + RJ but unaligned

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e_thsn: they win with either wolves or town (depending on their role) or solo

E.G RJ wins with town or solo if JR is dead JR wins with wolf or solo if RJ is dead

And each one has an ability

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mctsts: might be the most reasonable variant of RJ/JR ive seen

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e_thsn: if fed's taking IR i'll use my spot for this

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e_thsn: Jack Robinson | Unaligned Investigative | Limited Basics Jack Robinson's goal is to get robin jackson killed, when that goal is achieved Jack Robinson will win with any team except werewolves if alive. Details If there is a Jack Robinson in game there will always be a robin jackson in game. Each night Jack Robinson can check a player and learn if they're part of the werewolf team or not, this is an immediate action, robin jackson will appear as part of the werewolf team to Jack Robinson. Jack Robinson can win with any team except the wolves, as long as they're alive and robin jackson is dead or lost their role

Robin Jackson | Unaligned Power | Limited Basics Robin Jackson's goal is to get jack robinson killed, when that goal is achieved Robin Jackson will win with any team except townsfolk if alive. Details If there is a Robin Jackson in game there will always be a jack robinson in game. Each day Robin Jackson can disguise up to two players, this is an immediate action. Werewolf players will be disguised as citizen, while townsfolk and solo players will be disguised as wolf, unaligned players will not be disguised, jack robinson however will class as townsfolk. Robin Jackson will learn how many disguises of each kind were applied but not who recieved which disguise Robin Jackson can win with any team except the townsfolk, as long as they're alive and jack robinson is dead or lost their role

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e_thsn: <@242983689921888256> ik you like JR and RJ

<@689942180323786954> this is your suggestion so what do you think

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huckhuck55: im happy with whatever happens, if its changed to something new, its fine, just trying to get a twin mechanic in the game 🙂

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huckhuck55: ill give more input in a bit, my brain is mush from emojis

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e_thsn:

im happy with whatever happens, if its changed to something new, its fine, just trying to get a twin mechanic in the game 🙂

it's a rehash of our old twin mechanic, plus it keeps the good and evil spect and twins can be the collective name

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huckhuck55: sure, its worth a try,

my input here is, i think it would be cool to have both of them appear as the one. eg. robin jackson appears on checks to be jack robinson. just to make both of them able to blend in

but that said, if thats not something the masses like, ill happily be happy with what you have there.

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e_thsn:

sure, its worth a try,

my input here is, i think it would be cool to have both of them appear as the one. eg. robin jackson appears on checks to be jack robinson. just to make both of them able to blend in

but that said, if thats not something the masses like, ill happily be happy with what you have there.

my thought was robin jackson can disguise themselves so maybe the disguise on them is jack robinson and vice versa

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huckhuck55: well, i think the good one shouldnt use a disguise, cuz if x=y and y=x then its easy to tell apart the difference.

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huckhuck55: whereas x=y and y=y then checks wouldnt show anything

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huckhuck55: but again, im not set on that rule, i just think if they both looked the same they both might be more vocal early which would make the social aspect to them interesting

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e_thsn:

well, i think the good one shouldnt use a disguise, cuz if x=y and y=x then its easy to tell apart the difference.

evil disguise good as bad

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huckhuck55: and bad as bad?

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e_thsn:

and bad as bad?

self as good

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huckhuck55: good=good, bad mask = good?

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huckhuck55: (jesus, even my speech is turning into emoji caveman)