Dog / Cat

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Ts: For a lone Dog, Journalist is a valid option, however for the Dog/Cat combo, Journalist is an awful option.

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shapechange: in which case i think we should close it

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mctsts: I do think the issue is still valid

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mctsts: I just dont have a solution

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e_thsn: I've suggested WC and Runner multiple times 😔

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mctsts: I dont like that

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e_thsn: Or snw and ranger maybe

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e_thsn: The wolf should provide the opposite of what the town provides

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shapechange: what about dw and child or something

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e_thsn: I mean it could work

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e_thsn: Why do I have vivid memories of dog being able to become TC?

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shapechange: bc it could

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e_thsn: Huh

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shapechange: it used to be wolf/cc/tc and became cit on inactivity

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shapechange: which was very dumb

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e_thsn: Ah

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e_thsn: Yeah cit on no choice is where my confusion lies

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e_thsn: Cause I remembered cit, cc tc and wolf

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mctsts:

what about dw and child or something

child breaks the mystery

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mctsts: we want them both to be roles where it's unclear whether they were town or wolf even after death

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mctsts: so actually the current role of journalist doesn't even make any sense

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shapechange: ah

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e_thsn: Assistant and Warlock?

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shapechange: definitely not warlock

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shapechange: assistant and recluse or vanilla maybe?

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e_thsn: Assistant and wolf that has power

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e_thsn: Oh recluse maybe

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shapechange: they don't necessarily need to be perfect opposites ethan

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mctsts: Would anyone ever pick Recluse?

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shapechange: bc for balancing reasons a wolf with a weak power is a good deal stronger than a town with a weak power

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mctsts: what if we just do Citizen / Recluse?

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e_thsn: Is recluse the citizen equivalent?

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shapechange: pretty much

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shapechange: i think thats a nice one honestly

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mctsts: its pretty much the weakest role of either team

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shapechange: thinking of it. i think we should probably swap out cc for something

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shapechange: bc the original logic behind cc is "you have the safety net of being able to be turned"

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mctsts: I dont see how anything but cc can be the middle option

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shapechange: some sort of ua maybe

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mctsts: or we remove the role change

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mctsts: and it just aligns

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mctsts: i mean it is a dog after all

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mctsts: it either chooses to help the humans or the wolves

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mctsts: but why would it transform into a dude just because it tries to help the humans

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shapechange: magic

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shapechange: its another case of rapid evolution

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mctsts: i feel like just aligning would make the role more interesting though

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mctsts: now you can't tell at all who's on what side

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shapechange: i agree

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shapechange: seems like the neatest fix too

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mctsts: I assume it would take out the middle option then